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We have plenty of engineers, and many that need work. I myself am trying to get an entry level dev role, but they seem to be very difficult to find.

I'm sure in many cases this is true. But in others it's just an excuse for billion dollar companies to pay less than you would have to for an American.

Just looking here and assuming it's true, you're telling me they can't find an entry level QA or a front end dev anywhere in the United States? That sounds like bullshit to me.
https://h1bvisajobs.com/find-jobs/

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And I'm not at all saying end the program, I'm saying Musk is a lying piece of shit and wants to hoard more money from the American middle class.
obviously the H-1B visa should be a thing for the very top talent but its also clearly not being used for just that, is being abused to hire cheap labor, and people who can't leave the company without getting deported.. Indian or not American workers should not have to compete with the rest of the world for jobs and housing.

Elon is obviously a liar as Tesla is one of the biggest abusers of the H1B
 

Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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We have plenty of engineers, and many that need work. I myself am trying to get an entry level dev role, but they seem to be very difficult to find.

I'm sure in many cases this is true. But in others it's just an excuse for billion dollar companies to pay less than you would have to for an American.

Just looking here and assuming it's true, you're telling me they can't find an entry level QA or a front end dev anywhere in the United States? That sounds like bullshit to me.
https://h1bvisajobs.com/find-jobs/

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And I'm not at all saying end the program, I'm saying Musk is a lying piece of shit and wants to hoard more money from the American middle class.
I mean, basically all of the QA I work with are Indian Americans or Canadians
 

Ronn

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May 3, 2012
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Tesla even abuses international students on internships. I knew a guy who was hired as an intern with low pay and no benefits hoping he’ll get a full time offer at the end. He ended up working 60 hours a week and once internship was over no job offer was waiting for him. He was replaced by another intern.
Zuck and Gates lobbied Obama admin for increasing H1-B quota 5 fold, but couldn’t get it passed through Congress. If you think those schmucks give a shit about US I have a bridge to sell you.
 

icemaη

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obviously the H-1B visa should be a thing for the very top talent but its also clearly not being used for just that, is being abused to hire cheap labor, and people who can't leave the company without getting deported.. Indian or not American workers should not have to compete with the rest of the world for jobs and housing.

Elon is obviously a liar as Tesla is one of the biggest abusers of the H1B
Top talent has a different visa category already. It’s the O1 I think. H1B also has salary requirements, so it’s not necessarily slave wage labor. It’s still probably on the lower end, but not ridiculously low. Not sure what the enforcement is like. The L1B is the visa category that was well abused and probably still is. But I think around 2020 they started rejecting a lot of visas in that category because of the abuse.
The H1B visa tied to the employer is a great advantage for the employer if the employee is Indian or Chinese as the current waitlist to get a green card for those nationalities are ridiculously long. For other nationalities, the employers generally don’t have that advantage.
 

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