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I thought you were referencing something that Trump just announced as a new campaign promise for his 2024 bid, etc (i.e. his recent announcement on cartels). My bad.

I don't mind normalizing relations with Cuba. Didn't bother me when Obama did it. Didn't see the benefit for Trump reversing it at the time.

Honestly, pull production from Asia (i.e. China) and either build stuff here or locally (i.e. SA/CA).

This. Large scale manufacturing of consumer goods isn’t coming back to the US or Canada any time soon. No one can pay the workers what they would like/need to be paid here to keep prices where they currently are, and consumers aren’t willing to have prices rise. However, given the illegal immigration crisis, moving manufacturing to countries just south of the border and creating at least somewhat decent paying and consistent employment should help to some degree.

And as a side benefit, would damage China’s economy.

 

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[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I thought you were referencing something that Trump just announced as a new campaign promise for his 2024 bid, etc (i.e. his recent announcement on cartels). My bad.

I don't mind normalizing relations with Cuba. Didn't bother me when Obama did it. Didn't see the benefit for Trump reversing it at the time.

Honestly, pull production from Asia (i.e. China) and either build stuff here or locally (i.e. SA/CA).

Again. You don't actually want to do that. You pretend to want to.

Unless you mean Central America and not California.

In any case, it would be much more costly to ship stuff out of Central and South America. There isn't nearly the infrastructure there and even at the coasts, there aren't the type of ports you would need.

The economic principle of Marginal Cost comes into play, too. If thirty companies manufacture stuff which ships out of Hong Kong or Shanghai, those thirty companies split the cost of the shipping. It's much more costly to roll production as a single entity. Supply Chain Logistics are an extremely fickle thing.


Also, to be clear, I'm all for your suggestion, I am just trying to indicate some of the hurdles. If you pulled all the production out of China, who is to say the hundreds of millions or billions of dollars sitting in Chinese banks aren't frozen? It's an autocracy. It's also a HUGE market. China could say, "No more Apple products allowed in the Country." Then the stock price drops 35% over night. You might not care about that, but Big Business Republicans do, and that's your answer.

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Port of Rio:

Port of Shanghai:

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It's not apples and oranges, it's apples and aircraft carriers.

 

[IliveForJuve]

Legalize cocaine in the US and Mexico. Put cartels out of business.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I wrote an economics paper on why all drugs should be legal several years ago.

 

[Hust]

Again. You don't actually want to do that. You pretend to want to.

Unless you mean Central America and not California.

In any case, it would be much more costly to ship stuff out of Central and South America. There isn't nearly the infrastructure there and even at the coasts, there aren't the type of ports you would need.

The economic principle of Marginal Cost comes into play, too. If thirty companies manufacture stuff which ships out of Hong Kong or Shanghai, those thirty companies split the cost of the shipping. It's much more costly to roll production as a single entity. Supply Chain Logistics are an extremely fickle thing.


Also, to be clear, I'm all for your suggestion, I am just trying to indicate some of the hurdles. If you pulled all the production out of China, who is to say the hundreds of millions or billions of dollars sitting in Chinese banks aren't frozen? It's an autocracy. It's also a HUGE market. China could say, "No more Apple products allowed in the Country." Then the stock price drops 35% over night. You might not care about that, but Big Business Republicans do, and that's your answer.

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Port of Rio:

Port of Shanghai:

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It's not apples and oranges, it's apples and aircraft carriers.

SA/CA - south/Central America. Anything but china and I’m not pretending

 

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Link me

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lol handwork from who? same people that ram through an omnibus bill with no time to read what's in it? Those people?

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Immigration doesn't have to be complex.

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I will say I like Trump saying cartels are combatants. Again, not rocket science. Smoke those fuckers.

I was poking fun at your viewpoint, not referring to any specific political persons or entities with my hardworking reference

 

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SA/CA - south/Central America. Anything but china and I’m not pretending

there’s a fair amount of manufacturing in Malaysia and Vietnam as well

 

[Hust]

This. Large scale manufacturing of consumer goods isn’t coming back to the US or Canada any time soon. No one can pay the workers what they would like/need to be paid here to keep prices where they currently are, and consumers aren’t willing to have prices rise. However, given the illegal immigration crisis, moving manufacturing to countries just south of the border and creating at least somewhat decent paying and consistent employment should help to some degree.

And as a side benefit, would damage China’s economy.

I’m all for hurting china.

my argument is to boost regional economies around here as much as possible, will also help immigration. Handing those countries pallets of cash obviously isn’t helping.

fuck china

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I was poking fun at your viewpoint, not referring to any specific political persons or entities with my hardworking reference

I know you were

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there’s a fair amount of manufacturing in Malaysia and Vietnam as well

Apple moving to Vietnam i think. Better than china

 

[Enron]

This. Large scale manufacturing of consumer goods isn’t coming back to the US or Canada any time soon. No one can pay the workers what they would like/need to be paid here to keep prices where they currently are, and consumers aren’t willing to have prices rise. However, given the illegal immigration crisis, moving manufacturing to countries just south of the border and creating at least somewhat decent paying and consistent employment should help to some degree.

And as a side benefit, would damage China’s economy.

Mas NAFTA?

 

[Hust]

HUSTA*

Hust Trade Agreement

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Just make me POTUS guys I’ll make this shit wild for everyone

 

[Enron]

But for all Indios, everywhere!

 

[Hust]

I’d have you all in my cabinet.

And yes. I’ll buy Greenland

 

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Biden announces new program to curb illegal migration as he prepares for visit to border

In a rare White House address on the nation’s southern border crisis, President Joe Biden on Thursday unveiled new policy that will accept 30,000 migrants a month from four nations but also will crack down on those who fail to use the plan’s legal pathways...

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/05/biden-border-plan-illegal-crossings-00076519

 

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In a rare White House address on the nation’s southern border crisis, President Joe Biden on Thursday unveiled new policy that will accept 30,000 migrants a month from four nations but also will crack down on those who fail to use the plan’s legal pathways...

LFG!!!!!!! @IliveForJuve

 

[Hust]

Biden announces new program to curb illegal migration as he prepares for visit to border



https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/05/biden-border-plan-illegal-crossings-00076519

And those that come illegally just waltzing across the border? What happens to them?

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The 30k that get to stay - what grounds determine they can stay? First in 30k in line? Criminal backgrounds? Etc

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

SA/CA - south/Central America. Anything but china and I’m not pretending

I know you aren't, and you are joking if you meant inside the United States. Without illegal labor and migrant workers, milk and orange juice would be $18 a gallon, bro. That was a 2010 or so study.

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HUSTA*

Hust Trade Agreement

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Just make me POTUS guys I’ll make this shit wild for everyone

You can't be President if you're a felon.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

And those that come illegally just waltzing across the border? What happens to them?

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The 30k that get to stay - what grounds determine they can stay? First in 30k in line? Criminal backgrounds? Etc

Just call Biden and ask

Sounds like mostly an expanded use of laws that existed before the pandemic, with the addition of that additional pathway for legal immigration.
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2023/01/05...announces-new-border-enforcement-measures-and

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

I’d have you all in my cabinet.

And yes. I’ll buy Greenland

Denmark might not like that.

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And those that come illegally just waltzing across the border? What happens to them?

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The 30k that get to stay - what grounds determine they can stay? First in 30k in line? Criminal backgrounds? Etc

Based on generalities and the aspects of the countries included, I would say Asylum.

How you going to run criminal background checks on dudes without SSNs, bro?

They could show up and say they are me.

 

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I’d have you all in my cabinet.

And yes. I’ll buy Greenland

We’d invoke the 25th amendment on your ass.

 

[IliveForJuve]

LFG!!!!!!! @IliveForJuve

UK > Murica except for the weather.