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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,507
I don't know if you recall our conversation before he got elected, but i had very low expectations. The one issue i expected him to kinda deliver on was immigration. And though I'm not even remotely satisfied with his performance so far, I'm convinced if kamala was in charge it would be much much worse.

On foreign policy, his stance on israel is obviously despicable, he's 100% compromised, they got dirt on him. But I'm not sure the Dems would have been that much different. As I said before, isarel remains America's number 1 national security threat.

As for Ukraine, imo very difficult subject to broach. Trump has been pretty consistent on this subject. He wants the war to end and he obviously wants to take the credit. And as much as it pains me to say it, even if trump wasnt the president, I still don't see how Ukrainians could come out on top at this point. They will have to cede territory, what remains to be seen is what kind of security guarantees they will get in return.

On the economy front, i think it's too early to tell. One thing is for sure though, the doom and gloom about tariffs turned out to be a nothing burger.

Overall, trump is an israel first president who has failed to deliver on almost all of his election promises so far. He has an insurmountable mountain to climb in the next 2 years to salvage his 2nd presidency.
Thanks, solid opinion.

As for the economy I think it's just too early to tell. But the American stock market was always going to collapse and maybe his antics will actually save it in the long run. This fake globalisation we had wasn't ideal either.


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L'autista
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Sep 23, 2003
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I don't know if you recall our conversation before he got elected, but i had very low expectations. The one issue i expected him to kinda deliver on was immigration. And though I'm not even remotely satisfied with his performance so far, I'm convinced if kamala was in charge it would be much much worse.

On foreign policy, his stance on israel is obviously despicable, he's 100% compromised, they got dirt on him. But I'm not sure the Dems would have been that much different. As I said before, isarel remains America's number 1 national security threat.

As for Ukraine, imo very difficult subject to broach. Trump has been pretty consistent on this subject. He wants the war to end and he obviously wants to take the credit. And as much as it pains me to say it, even if trump wasnt the president, I still don't see how Ukrainians could come out on top at this point. They will have to cede territory, what remains to be seen is what kind of security guarantees they will get in return.

On the economy front, i think it's too early to tell. One thing is for sure though, the doom and gloom about tariffs turned out to be a nothing burger.

Overall, trump is an israel first president who has failed to deliver on almost all of his election promises so far. He has an insurmountable mountain to climb in the next 2 years to salvage his 2nd presidency.
I think you also predicted -- a prediction I still agree with -- that no matter who won the presidency was going to be f'ed. Just the economics of the national debt, the world, the state of U.S. inequality and oligarchy, etc.

IMO, Kamala would have been pretty useless as a president. Much as her entire political career, she basically phones it in and collects a paycheck while smiling and holding hands with black children. She certainly is capable of throwing daggers at immigrants. And while most of this administration does it for public display more than anything, the asylum waves would have not subsided.

That said, she would have not started a global tax war, and she would not have sent America's scientific R&D leadership back to the Stone Age, and she wouldn't have lined her pockets by opening government policy decisions to the highest bidders. And I don't think she would have inflated the national debt overall the way Trump's budget just has ... as he did in his first term of office.

Health care is beyond f'ed in America and I don't think it would have been even more f'ed the way Trump and that RFK Jr. clown are handling it now. I honestly expect to read a headline any day now that RFK Jr. declares hand-washing ineffective and a toxic practice of the Medical-Industrial Complex to ritually keep us in fear of healthy germs.

I guess the good news is that all Americans will be turned to Orin Hatch's Utah to line grifter pockets when primary care in America is replaced with gas station checkout bottles of unregulated Feel Free, Iron Max Hellfire, Purple Magic, and Rhino 7 Blue. Medical libertarianism sounds like freedom, but that's more true for the con artists than the millions of American ignorants and desperates.

Agreed that Israel could blow up the whole thing into a world war, and we're sleepwalking with Trump at the helm. Portuguese sarcastic cartoonist António Antunes may have gotten the New York Times to end its political cartoons after his submission earned cries of anti-semitism in 2019 under the first Trump administration. But there is little about it that isn't still true today:


I'm not as convinced about tariffs being a nothingburger. Policy/tariff shifts take time, much as it took years before we saw the good and bad of NAFTA. I think it's premature to give an "all clear" on that one. The US economy has been more resilient than most gave it credit for, and that goes back to the waning days of deep Covid in the middle of the Biden presidency.
 

s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
35,032
this is what the economy needs: get rid of the cheap immigrant labor and desperately try to recruit aryan kens with literal nazi propaganda


apprenticeship.gov has too much diversity though, i expect miller to see it and order an immediate replacement of these woke stock photos lol

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s4tch

Senior Member
Mar 23, 2015
35,032
rhetorical question: why do they protect pedophiles?


btw pretty similar things already happened in/with hungary. hungarian ambassador to peru famously had to be fled from peru by the hungarian secret service in order to escape prosecution for possession of ~19k child pornographic images, and there were other cases, detailed in the 2nd article:
https://index.hu/english/2020/02/10/peru_hungarian_ambassador_child_pornography_gabor_kaleta/
https://telex.hu/english/2024/02/07...y-if-they-can-accuse-their-opponents-of-of-it

disgusting shit from both orbán and trump administrations
 

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