sometimes you have sacrifice for the greater good, I would definitely take a can of gas to the face if I were innocent on death row. I think we all would when it comes down to it
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That’s more linked to the fact most death penalty sentences in the US have decades long imprisonment with a lengthy series of appeals mandated/allowed. I’m not advocating the death penalty for anything but the most extreme cases. Guys like Gacy, Dahmer, Bundy, etc. They don’t need a decades long series of appeals. Where the evidence is overwhelming and a clear guilty verdict, even confessions to these sort of crimes, it should be a pretty quick process in my opinion.
Yes, the death penalty does cost taxpayers more than life in prison due to the legal appeals process, lawyers, court fees, etc.
Personally, I think death is too good for some of these folks. That's probably the wrong answer. But if they are in prison and left alive, the state is less of a ghoul of death and there's the chance somebody might find a way to help redeem themselves,
And the main reason the death penalty isn't a deterrent is nobody does a crime planning to get caught.
Well, if you read this again:
you could apply the same logic to them. It's a slippery slope. When does a society decide that a person born with birth defects is irredeemable and should be in the custody of the state and taxpayers to care for them the rest of their lives? I have a good friend whose brother was severely autistic and surprisingly died only recently, and he was in state custody paid by taxpayer care for decades.
The San Francisco knockout game excludes anybody who isn't an octogenarian Asian.
Personally, I think death is too good for some of these folks. That's probably the wrong answer. But if they are in prison and left alive, the state is less of a ghoul of death and there's the chance somebody might find a way to help redeem themselves,
And the main reason the death penalty isn't a deterrent is nobody does a crime planning to get caught.
Well, if you read this again:
you could apply the same logic to them. It's a slippery slope. When does a society decide that a person born with birth defects is irredeemable and should be in the custody of the state and taxpayers to care for them the rest of their lives? I have a good friend whose brother was severely autistic and surprisingly died only recently, and he was in state custody paid by taxpayer care for decades.
The San Francisco knockout game excludes anybody who isn't an octogenarian Asian.
A slippery slope, sure. But we’re adults here. I think we can differentiate between society caring for severely autistic and other mentally handicapped folks, and executing a John Wayne Gacy or Ted Bundy. If we can’t do that, then humanity is a lost cause. So kind of a silly application of “the same logic”. The two groups of people are nothing alike.
You don't have to if SF ships these criminals to Seattle.
SF homeless are eating caviar and trading Bitcoin anyway. Beating someone with a bat would cut into that lifestyle.
How a society treats the lowest of its members speaks volumes. Doesn't excuse the crime. But I have a bias because I think death can be too merciful sometimes too.
SF homeless are eating caviar and trading Bitcoin anyway. Beating someone with a bat would cut into that lifestyle.
How a society treats the lowest of its members speaks volumes. Doesn't excuse the crime. But I have a bias because I think death can be too merciful sometimes too.
I think serial killers and other such psychopaths have removed themselves from society. They are no longer members of it. I honestly just don’t see the point in allowing them to live. Sure, you could use the argument that death can be too merciful for them, so we advocating medieval style torture dungeons to give them a weekly session on the rack for their term of imprisonment?
Eye-for-an-Eye is a popular philosophy, I get it. But that is also what gets us into pointless political rage wars while the real evil is making off with the country.
I generally think having to face an endless punishment is more terrifying than cutting someone off from it.
But systems also get abused for personal or organizational corruption too. Witch trials were a convenient way of legalizing the individual grievances among women with the power of the state. That's never a good look.
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I generally think having to face an endless punishment is more terrifying than cutting someone off from it.
But systems also get abused for personal or organizational corruption too. Witch trials were a convenient way of legalizing the individual grievances among women with the power of the state. That's never a good look.
Gold needles probably
