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[Post Ironic]

@CrimsonianKing

Saw Deadpool tonight with the lady friend. She loved it. Thinking of ditching her because of that

Honestly, 5/10, maybe 6/10 if I'm feeling generous. So puerile and often obnoxious. Disgustingly smug and self-satisfied too, the director is rather obsessive with pointing out how clever and iconoclastic it all is (and on the surface it can appear so, but with absolutely no depth), revelling in a tedious and banal use of meta (starts out well with the meta and just massively overdoes it to the point it becomes incredibly grating), and a laughable attempt at satire (simple references are not enough to claim to be satirizing something, again a little more depth please). Chock-full of rapid-fire, dumb, adolescent, in-your-face humour and pointless ultra-violence...

All the same, it has its moments, some of them very funny... And Ryan Reynolds really goes all in on the character and the role really really suits him, his performance is the one redeeming factor, makes the film watchable. So I found it entertaining at times, but they way overdid it and made it quite the excruciating experience by the end.

Here's a good review (spoilers though): http://consequenceofsound.net/2016/02/film-review-deadpool/

And a couple lines that are apt from another review:

Ryan Reynolds plays Deadpool with tremendous energy, speaking every line as though he had 12 cups of coffee, but it’s all in vain. Deadpool is supposed to be the funny superhero, but really, what’s so funny about a character acknowledging that he is in a movie? What’s so clever about little references to other superhero movies? It’s the easiest thing in the world. You know what’s hard? A good story. A well-composed shot. “Deadpool” makes fun of itself when there is barely a self to make fun of. The experience is like listening to people improvising on instruments they cannot play.

 

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[icemaη]

Do you read comic books @Post Ironic?

 

[s4tch]

http://mashable.com/2016/02/16/the-witch-review/

opinions, anyone?

 

[Dostoevsky]

Do you read comic books @Post Ironic?

You read Sandman?

 

[il brutto]

This is a very interesting thread keep it going with the reviews @Post Ironic.

Just watched Ex Machina yesterday thought it was an okay film but expected a little more, well worth the watch however. The dialogue for me wasn't interesting or compelling enough not bad by any means but just needed something more and a movie like that thrives on it's dialogue they did however establish the right kind of atmosphere in the movie. From the recent A.I. movies liked Her a bit more for it's uniqueness.

 

[Osman]

You read Sandman?

He asked that question for very important point.
@Post Ironic I get why some would take it as you did With this being only exposure to Deadpool THE character. But however small or big, for those who know the cartoon, videos or more importantly the comic, this IS Deadpool (read comics due to my brother, hence was looking forward to the zany mofo). Movie is 95 procent adaption of the crazy balls out wtf clown that is Deadpool regardless of format he is depicted in (the 5 procent remaining is for toning him down a bit from super r rated at times dark comic, it's not all humor). It's not many comic adoptions can say that.

So it's the least thing one should have with the movie itself (tho it's disjointed and mediocre at times, didn't like how director did the time jumps). Then it basically becomes wether you like the character itself to find him ridiculously funny or obnoxious.

And yeah Reynolds was amazingly well fit for the role. He was born for the role. Basically his career at his best has been this type of funny since Van Wilder. Waste of witty type of actor to do top serious roles or bland rom coms for career reasons.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

@CrimsonianKing

Saw Deadpool tonight with the lady friend. She loved it. Thinking of ditching her because of that

Honestly, 5/10, maybe 6/10 if I'm feeling generous. So puerile and often obnoxious. Disgustingly smug and self-satisfied too, the director is rather obsessive with pointing out how clever and iconoclastic it all is (and on the surface it can appear so, but with absolutely no depth), revelling in a tedious and banal use of meta (starts out well with the meta and just massively overdoes it to the point it becomes incredibly grating), and a laughable attempt at satire (simple references are not enough to claim to be satirizing something, again a little more depth please). Chock-full of rapid-fire, dumb, adolescent, in-your-face humour and pointless ultra-violence...

All the same, it has its moments, some of them very funny... And Ryan Reynolds really goes all in on the character and the role really really suits him, his performance is the one redeeming factor, makes the film watchable. So I found it entertaining at times, but they way overdid it and made it quite the excruciating experience by the end.

Here's a good review (spoilers though): http://consequenceofsound.net/2016/02/film-review-deadpool/

And a couple lines that are apt from another review:

Won't read the review with spoilers though, I still intend to watch it.

 

[radekas]

You read Sandman?

Speaking of Sandman, there's an adaptation being made with Gordon-Levitt playing Morpheus.

It's funny when you think that Sandman takes place in the same universe as Superman, Batman or Green Lantern.

 

[Dostoevsky]

He asked that question for very important point.

I know. But I did too, as I remembered that Asif reads comics. So I wanted to ask if he read that one since it's highly, highly rated. And I'm about to get the first part of it.

Speaking of Sandman, there's an adaptation being made with Gordon-Levitt playing Morpheus.

It's funny when you think that Sandman takes place in the same universe as Superman, Batman or Green Lantern.

Hmm, didn't know that. Can't see anything related to it on imdb. Is it official?

Well, kinda, I guess. As far as I know Sandman is a special comic that goes under DC but it's a Vertigo comic, pretty much made for older/mature people so it has more brain involved.

 

[Osman]

That sounds potentially awesome best comic deserves serious attention in adaption, but is the movie written or approved by Gaiman atleast? Unlike with Alan Moore (Watchmen), he is actually open to his magical works being adapted, and if I recall is bit of a screen writer too.

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Hmm, didn't know that. Can't see anything related to it on imdb. Is it official?

It is, just a slow moving project it seems:

Joseph Gordon-Levitt: 'Sandman' Movie Will Be Spectacular But Punch-Free

"It was actually one of the things that Neil Gaiman said to me, he said, 'Don’t have him punch anything,'" the producer recalls.
Joseph Gordon-Levitt has offered an update on the progress of the movie version of Neil Gaiman's comic book opus Sandman, promising that despite a lack of punching, audiences can expect a "grand, spectacular action film."

Speaking to MTV at the Spike TV Guys' Choice Awards this weekend, the actor and producer of the adaptation — which has David Goyer involved as co-producer and Gaiman as executive producer — said that work on the project was "slow but steady," adding, "It’s a really complicated adaptation because those comics, they’re brilliant. But they're not written as a whole."

Gaiman's Sandman series ran 75 issues (as well as a special one-off issue) from 1989 through 1996, with the writer returning to the character and series for two graphic novels (The Dream Hunters and Endless Nights) and the current miniseries prologue, The Sandman: Overture.

"It's not like Watchmen, which is a graphic novel that has a beginning, middle and end," Gordon-Levitt told MTV. "To try and take [the entire Sandman series] and make it into something that's a feature film — a movie that has a beginning, middle and end — is complicated."

One thing is assured, however: Gordon-Levitt promised that the movie won't be like other big-budget features. "Big, spectacular action movies are generally about, like, crime-fighters fighting crime and blowing shit up. This has nothing to do with that," he said to MTV. "It was actually one of the things that Neil Gaiman said to me, he said, 'Don’t have him punch anything.’ Because he never does. If you read the comics, Morpheus doesn’t punch anybody. That’s not what he does. And so, it’s going to be like a grand, spectacular action film, but that relies on none of those same old ordinary cliches."

That, he explained, is why development isn't going as fast as some fans might want. But, Gordon-Levitt promised, "it's going to be really good!"

IMO they should do this as netflix original or HBO tv series. Better fit formula for him. Not all comic series oughta be narrowed down to just movie narrative wise.

 

[JuveJay]

I thought JGL was going to tell us how shit his new film is going to be...

My ongoing problem with comic/book movies is that the same actors are being used too often. I'll look at him and think 'Sin City'. Ryan Reynolds is already taking the piss being in everything from Blade to X-Men and then subsequently Deadpool, Green Lantern, no more please. Will Smith playing Will Smith The Actor in every movie. Stop massaging the egos of these so called A-listers and throw someone different out there. Like how Henry Cavill turns up as Superman, or the various dorks they used for Spiderman. And those are A-list superheroes.

 

[Osman]

JGL is not a connected to a comic character at all, Sin City is just another character he played, not THE comic character he played. Ryan Reynolds you have a point with Blade and Green Lantern since its one his two bigger blockbuster roles (even if bit part one for blade). Green Lantern was a disaster, but no one else but him should have made Deadpool, he defines the character with his role. Pretty much tried to make the movie for 11 years fyi.



You are right about Will Smith, he should just keep himself at the roles he built his star quality prestine hollywood path in, and not be the face of any notable comic character because you wouldnt get past the fact its Will Smith at all. Hancock was enough for such a role.


And yeah Henry Cavill and The Spidermans are good suggestions for lowkey actors to bring up. But even if JGL is a bigger name, he fits in this cathegory because he is a seriously interesting actor thats fairly lowkey for a Hollywood "A lister". He is more closer to character actor then movie star, so it makes sense for him to make Sandman for sure. Dream/Morpheus is a brilliant role for any serious actor to want to take on, hope they pull it off. those its still ludicrous to do it in movie format...

 

[JuveJay]

I don't know if you've ever read much of the Sandman stories but they are pretty dark graphic novels, I just think it is going to give off too many Sin City vibes for me with him as lead. I'd rather they had picked someone else.

 

[Osman]

I have read it (tho over decade ago), Sin City is noir gritty and slickness, Sandman is completely another style and subject matter even if both dark.


I wouldnt have mind if someone else who's also good did Sandman for sure, but I dont really associate JGL with Sin City as much as you do. Heck main comic role for him I think of is Batman first and foremost.

 

[JuveJay]

I knew he was in something else but couldn't remember it Well that's the kind of thing I mean anyway.

 

[Osman]

He played just a cop in Batman Hardly disqualifies you from making a unique and cerebral role/character like Sandman. Both are DC characters, but thats it when it comes to similarities.


Anyways this project is doomed probably, Neil Gaiman stuff dont tend to go down well. For example I been watching for a tv adaption of his one of his books called American Gods, and it changes network and show runners with little to no progress. Doomed brilliantly creative writer in terms of adaptions

 

[radekas]

Hmm, didn't know that. Can't see anything related to it on imdb. Is it official?

Well, kinda, I guess. As far as I know Sandman is a special comic that goes under DC but it's a Vertigo comic, pretty much made for older/mature people so it has more brain involved.

It used to be kind of separated but now it's a legit part of the DC Universe. Sandman has interacted with people like Batman or Superman.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

It's like being in a dark room for so long and then coming out, the sun welcomes you with "there's life out here, this is good for you" but sunlight just bothers you and you go back into the room, that's them. I guess you're much more optimistic than I am. I'm not, at all.

Plato called that shit out centuries ago.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Plato called that shit out centuries ago.

Dude knew his shit

 

[Vinny Del Pogba]

I saw Deadpool one its preview night at an Imax at the PGA Hall of Fame, the largest screen in north east Florida. It is the perfect Deadpool movie. So fucking funny. So violent. So crude.