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[Nzoric]

Nzoric is the kind of guy you easily find. In Köpenhamn when we met we changed location two or three times, in the end we walked against each other only to go back and as the same question. "Are you?" That's it, no name nothing. We both nod and go find a café.

You were a bit hard to understand since you visited Christiania prior to our meeting .

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What I said about you before was a joke, this is true though.

Either it was a joke or a serious misinterpretation of me as a being .

No matter how stubborn you are, you just can't get away with saying that Tarantino sucks - the guy is a genious.

 

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[Enron]

Terrible troll job bro.

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Saw Compliance today, what a horrible movie. Was terribly boring & considering it was based on true events, the story could have been paced better. I just for the life of me can't understand how people got caught with this hoax. Seventy similar cases over a span of ten years.

It's not so unbelievable when you consider the marks, uneducated low level employees in the service industry.

Also 70 cases over ten years is a minute number when you think about it.

 

[Byrone]

It's not so unbelievable when you consider the marks, uneducated low level employees in the service industry.

Also 70 cases over ten years is a minute number when you think about it.

No but still, come on. Who allows their supervisor to strip search them & them have someone else molest them. Really, i just don't get how some people could be that dumb.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

What I said about you before was a joke, this is true though.

for once we agree on movies, tarantino is so meh

 

[Martin]

for once we agree on movies, tarantino is so meh

What nzoric is missing is that this Danish movie is interesting because the characters are aimless. The whole movie is pointless, it doesn't go anywhere. Yes there's violence and death but it's totally unmotivated by any objective.

What Tarantino gives you is an endless parade of the sad identity crisis schmuck who has nothing going for him in life and has just found guns and finally he feels like he's someone. There's little more pathetic than that.

 

[Enron]

No but still, come on. Who allows their supervisor to strip search them & them have someone else molest them. Really, i just don't get how some people could be that dumb.

I think a lot of people are that stupid.

Then again it's not necessarily a lack of a intelligence. I think it's an exaggerated result of a society which rewards people for being submissive in the face of authority. You see this sort of thing in the psychological world all the time, look at the Stanford Prison experiment. Give a submissive person authority and they'll just about anything to keep it.

Granted these sort of things don't happen often, I mean 70 cases in 10 years is well under a tenth of a percent.

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What nzoric is missing is that this Danish movie is interesting because the characters are aimless. The whole movie is pointless, it doesn't go anywhere. Yes there's violence and death but it's totally unmotivated by any objective.

What Tarantino gives you is an endless parade of the sad identity crisis schmuck who has nothing going for him in life and has just found guns and finally he feels like he's someone.

You're thinking of Scorsese.

Which Tarantino film shows an every man stepping off the street and deciding he's Rambo?

 

[Martin]

You're thinking of Scorsese.

Which Tarantino film shows an every man stepping off the street and deciding he's Rambo?

Did you miss people quoting "English, do you speak it?" once a week?

 

[Enron]

Did you miss people quoting "English, do you speak it?" once a week?

How does that have anything to do with your point? Come on man prove me wrong.

 

[Martin]

How does that have anything to do with your point? Come on man prove me wrong.

How is that character not precisely what I said? Empty shell and the gun makes him feel like he matters.

 

[Nzoric]

What Tarantino gives you is an endless parade of the sad identity crisis schmuck who has nothing going for him in life and has just found guns and finally he feels like he's someone. There's little more pathetic than that.

How many Tarantino movies have you watched?

 

[Martin]

How many Tarantino movies have you watched?

One is plenty.

 

[Enron]

How is that character not precisely what I said? Empty shell and the gun makes him feel like he matters.

None of that is inferred through the film. You're just adding on a pre-conceived notion you have about the violent persona onto a character that does not share it. To be honest we don't really know much about Jules Winfield or Vincent Vega. We know they're gangsters who kill for a living, so that would tell that they have probably held if not used a weapon before in their lives. The lack of character depth doesn't allow us that notion. If you were to pan Tarantino for that error, you'd be correct.

If you made your statement about Tarantino rather than his characters you'd also be correct. His films to reflect a boyish view on violence and that's a perfectly good reason not to like him.

 

[Nzoric]

How is that character not precisely what I said? Empty shell and the gun makes him feel like he matters.

You haven't watched Pulp Fiction that's for damn certain. Jules undergoes a complete transition throughout the movie, the shell is emptied and filled up with something else.

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One is plenty.

Hm, I won't discuss this with you anymore - we all have certain areas where we're being stubborn despite lack of information.

 

[Martin]

None of that is inferred through the film. You're just adding on a pre-conceived notion you have about the violent persona onto a character that does not share it. To be honest we don't really know much about Jules Winfield or Vincent Vega. We know they're gangsters who kill for a living, so that would tell that they have probably held if not used a weapon before in their lives. The lack of character depth doesn't allow us that notion. If you were to pan Tarantino for that error, you'd be correct.

If you made your statement about Tarantino rather than his characters you'd also be correct. His films to reflect a boyish view on violence and that's a perfectly good reason not to like him.

It's an inference based on violence in movies in general.

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You haven't watched Pulp Fiction that's for damn certain. Jules undergoes a complete transition throughout the movie, the shell is emptied and filled up with something else.

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Hm, I won't discuss this with you anymore - we all have certain areas where we're being stubborn despite lack of information.

For someone who's being so much of a troll elsewhere in the forum you're quite defensive on this one. Stop taking it so seriously?

 

[Enron]

It's an inference based on violence in movies in general.

So the only reason for violence in a film that the character committing the violence is an empty shell and must do so to feel full?

Interesting perspective. Name a few films that support your viewpoint if you don't mind.

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It's an inference based on violence in movies in general.

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For someone who's being so much of a troll elsewhere in the forum you're quite defensive on this one. Stop taking it so seriously?

Yeah, Nizz. Martin isn't trolling, aside from the fanboy dig.

 

[Nzoric]

For someone who's being so much of a troll elsewhere in the forum you're quite defensive on this one. Stop taking it so seriously?

I'm taking this seriously because it's a serious discussion . I just have a hard time grasping how you passed judgement on all his movies by watching Pulp Fiction. For a director with a wide array of styles like Tarantino, it makes no sense to write him off based on one of his works .

 

[Enron]

I'm taking this seriously because it's a serious discussion . I just have a hard time grasping how you passed judgement on all his movies by watching Pulp Fiction. For a director with a wide array of styles like Tarantino, it makes no sense to write him off based on one of his works .

Woah there cowboy. I'm with you, but "wide array of style". No. Tarantino has a very specific style. He has been able to take many a genre and mold it to his stylistic vision. And he's done it well. But it's all the same stylistically.

 

[Martin]

So the only reason for violence in a film that the character committing the violence is an empty shell and must do so to feel full?

Interesting perspective. Name a few films that support your viewpoint if you don't mind.

Well, you're stretching it a bit. But the point is that I find this portrayal of characters who gain an identity through violence really sad and banal.

 

[Nzoric]

Woah there cowboy. I'm with you, but "wide array of style". No. Tarantino has a very specific style. He has been able to take many a genre and mold it to his stylistic vision. And he's done it well. But it's all the same stylistically.

Other than violence, what is the common denominator between Kill Bill & Reservoir Dogs? They share nothing in common other than that.

 

[Martin]

I'm taking this seriously because it's a serious discussion . I just have a hard time grasping how you passed judgement on all his movies by watching Pulp Fiction. For a director with a wide array of styles like Tarantino, it makes no sense to write him off based on one of his works .

I may have seen 10min of some other one too. Something about a sunset or sunrise in the title was it?

I've heard reviews on Kill Bill from people who share my taste enough to know I'd hate it.

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Other than violence, what is the common denominator between Kill Bill & Reservoir Dogs? They share nothing in common other than that.

Reservoir Dogs is one of his? I think I've seen that one.