Watched Bridesmaids last night... pretty fuckin funny. Probably the best chick flick of all time.
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Good, disturbing themes and humor. This ain't for kiddies, folks.
That scene just gave me vertigo. 
The concept was interesting but I can imagine it being more interesting back when it first came out. In fact had I been around in 1968 I would have probably been fascinated by the concept. Now notice I've said concept and not movie. At times Kubrick's direction was as clear as mud and I understand he meant for the audience to come up with their own interpretation of what happened but come on! Perhaps it was a ploy to boost book sales as well? In addition to this the movie was a bit on the slow side. I felt that there were things he could have snipped here and there to make it less tedious to watch at times.
And speaking of interpretations:
Edit: Oh I forgot to mention I am talking about Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey here.
The concept was interesting but I can imagine it being more interesting back when it first came out. In fact had I been around in 1968 I would have probably been fascinated by the concept. Now notice I've said concept and not movie. At times Kubrick's direction was as clear as mud and I understand he meant for the audience to come up with their own interpretation of what happened but come on! Perhaps it was a ploy to boost book sales as well? In addition to this the movie was a bit on the slow side. I felt that there were things he could have snipped here and there to make it less tedious to watch at times. And speaking of interpretations:
What the hell were the lights anyway? Was he really travelling through space and time? Or was the black hole was not a black hole and everything just happening in his head? And what exactly is this star child he was reborn as?
And FFS you just don't drop a Monolith on us and leave it there without so much as a hint as to what it is or where it came from. I was so curious I Googled it. At least Google was helpful. I liked the idea that it served as a catalyst for the human race to progress with technology. I am assuming because the monolith cast the high pitch frequency towards Jupiter this is what inspired technology for a spaceship that could travel to Jupiter?
And FFS you just don't drop a Monolith on us and leave it there without so much as a hint as to what it is or where it came from. I was so curious I Googled it. At least Google was helpful. I liked the idea that it served as a catalyst for the human race to progress with technology. I am assuming because the monolith cast the high pitch frequency towards Jupiter this is what inspired technology for a spaceship that could travel to Jupiter?
Edit: Oh I forgot to mention I am talking about Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey here.
Ok so that final chapter had me very curious and I warn you do not read any of the following unless you have seen the movie:
So I did some more digging. In the room at the end where the astronaut is at first seeing himself as a old geezer and then takes the form of his geezer self, he is at the final challenge of his life which is to face his own death. He has a glass of wine and drops the glass. The glass is apparently meant to symbolise his physical body and the wine his spirit. (I would have so never gotten that wine part on my own.) Anyway the glass is broken but the wine is still there so you do the math between the two. In the end the monolith tells him that man's evolution is so dependent on our technology that it almost replaced us and it tried to destroy us and in the end what are we left with? The light never dies. And thus the star child is born...the next stage in the evolution of man.
So from ape, to man, to star child? Does this mean the final stage of our evolution is to become like the aliens who made the monoliths?
Oh and I think all the lights were a star gate of sorts but don't quote me on this one.
In the end the monolith tells him that man's evolution is so dependent on our technology that it almost replaced us and it tried to destroy us and in the end what are we left with? The light never dies. And thus the star child is born...the next stage in the evolution of man. So from ape, to man, to star child? Does this mean the final stage of our evolution is to become like the aliens who made the monoliths?
Oh and I think all the lights were a star gate of sorts but don't quote me on this one.
Ok so that final chapter had me very curious and I warn you do not read any of the following unless you have seen the movie:
So I did some more digging. In the room at the end where the astronaut is at first seeing himself as a old geezer and then takes the form of his geezer self, he is at the final challenge of his life which is to face his own death. He has a glass of wine and drops the glass. The glass is apparently meant to symbolise his physical body and the wine his spirit. (I would have so never gotten that wine part on my own.) Anyway the glass is broken but the wine is still there so you do the math between the two. In the end the monolith tells him that man's evolution is so dependent on our technology that it almost replaced us and it tried to destroy us and in the end what are we left with? The light never dies. And thus the star child is born...the next stage in the evolution of man.
So from ape, to man, to star child? Does this mean the final stage of our evolution is to become like the aliens who made the monoliths?
Oh and I think all the lights were a star gate of sorts but don't quote me on this one.
In the end the monolith tells him that man's evolution is so dependent on our technology that it almost replaced us and it tried to destroy us and in the end what are we left with? The light never dies. And thus the star child is born...the next stage in the evolution of man. So from ape, to man, to star child? Does this mean the final stage of our evolution is to become like the aliens who made the monoliths?
Oh and I think all the lights were a star gate of sorts but don't quote me on this one.
! i need to watch it again, now that i've read some of the things you posted.---------- Post added 16.04.2012 at 11:35 ----------
it is perfect.
the fat american family being told off by colin had me in shreds
Ok so that final chapter had me very curious and I warn you do not read any of the following unless you have seen the movie:
So I did some more digging. In the room at the end where the astronaut is at first seeing himself as a old geezer and then takes the form of his geezer self, he is at the final challenge of his life which is to face his own death. He has a glass of wine and drops the glass. The glass is apparently meant to symbolise his physical body and the wine his spirit. (I would have so never gotten that wine part on my own.) Anyway the glass is broken but the wine is still there so you do the math between the two. In the end the monolith tells him that man's evolution is so dependent on our technology that it almost replaced us and it tried to destroy us and in the end what are we left with? The light never dies. And thus the star child is born...the next stage in the evolution of man.
So from ape, to man, to star child? Does this mean the final stage of our evolution is to become like the aliens who made the monoliths?
Oh and I think all the lights were a star gate of sorts but don't quote me on this one.
In the end the monolith tells him that man's evolution is so dependent on our technology that it almost replaced us and it tried to destroy us and in the end what are we left with? The light never dies. And thus the star child is born...the next stage in the evolution of man. So from ape, to man, to star child? Does this mean the final stage of our evolution is to become like the aliens who made the monoliths?
Oh and I think all the lights were a star gate of sorts but don't quote me on this one.
It's basically an "ashes to ashes, dust to dust" scenario. Scientifically speaking we all come from matter, atoms, etc. Which are created by stars. So the start child is really just an image representing the cyclical journey of life. The monolith shows that we gain knowledge from what has already been there.
good interpretation, but that seems overly optimistic for a kubrick movie ! i need to watch it again, now that i've read some of the things you posted.
---------- Post added 16.04.2012 at 11:35 ----------
it is perfect.
the fat american family being told off by colin had me in shreds
! i need to watch it again, now that i've read some of the things you posted.---------- Post added 16.04.2012 at 11:35 ----------
it is perfect.
the fat american family being told off by colin had me in shreds
So I did some more digging. In the room at the end where the astronaut is at first seeing himself as a old geezer and then takes the form of his geezer self, he is at the final challenge of his life which is to face his own death. He has a glass of wine and drops the glass. The glass is apparently meant to symbolise his physical body and the wine his spirit. (I would have so never gotten that wine part on my own.) Anyway the glass is broken but the wine is still there so you do the math between the two. In the end the monolith tells him that man's evolution is so dependent on our technology that it almost replaced us and it tried to destroy us and in the end what are we left with? The light never dies. And thus the star child is born...the next stage in the evolution of man.
So from ape, to man, to star child? Does this mean the final stage of our evolution is to become like the aliens who made the monoliths?
Oh and I think all the lights were a star-gate of sorts but don't quote me on this one.
So from ape, to man, to star child? Does this mean the final stage of our evolution is to become like the aliens who made the monoliths?
Oh and I think all the lights were a star-gate of sorts but don't quote me on this one.
The part in bold is what I got from his actual site. The parts not in bold are my own thoughts.
I think he did a sucky job on the movie. I think had he taken another route the movie could have been a lot more intriguing and a lot less boring.
