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Ford Prefect

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May 28, 2009
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You said it was intelligent comedy. Funny or not, this is what I had a problem with. If that's our standard of intelligence god help us all.
any commedy that has the abilty to have numerous ways of finding it funny is going to intelligent, primarily because it caters to loads of audiences, just because you dont fit into any of the audiences he was aiming for, does not make it less intelligence. The bishop of southwark has a doctorate from cambridge, i still dont regard him as intelligent, because he is a theist.
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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any commedy that has the abilty to have numerous ways of finding it funny is going to intelligent, primarily because it caters to loads of audiences, just because you dont fit into any of the audiences he was aiming for, does not make it less intelligence. The bishop of southwark has a doctorate from cambridge, i still dont regard him as intelligent, because he is a theist.
You're only saying that because in general comedy is not the place to look for intellectualism. There isn't very much smart comedy and most comics pander to their audience, out of necessity I imagine, which ends up looking a lot like Britnet Spears prepackaged and dumbed down just enough so you won't miss a single joke.
 

Ford Prefect

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May 28, 2009
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You're only saying that because in general comedy is not the place to look for intellectualism. There isn't very much smart comedy and most comics pander to their audience, out of necessity I imagine, which ends up looking a lot like Britnet Spears prepackaged and dumbed down just enough so you won't miss a single joke.
How many English comics do you know?

I'l give you the comediens i find funny and you can decide for yourself on their intelligence -

Dara O'Briain
Bill Bailey
Bill Hicks
Dylan Moran

....thinks thats all of them
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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what you said...you know 15-20 english commediens? or you rate the four i said as 15-20 on whichever scale you are using?
What four you said? You didn't mention any names. You wrote a delightful post full of ^ characters, whatever that means.

I know 15-20 comedians.

I have no idea where you are going with this, would you mind being a little more concrete?
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
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Sorry to interrupt your little discussion guys, but I've been meaning to ask this for a while now.

@ Ja5per: why are you always so overly critical of other peoples tastes? No offence but, at times, you come off as someone who only respects his own opinion, while people who don't adhere to it are stupid or ignorant.

Which seems all the more bizarre when you post things like this :

Another Brick In The Wall - Korn (i really don't like Pink Floyd, but i dont mind listening to the Korn version)

Once again, I don't mean to offend you or anything.
 

Ford Prefect

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May 28, 2009
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What four you said? You didn't mention any names. You wrote a delightful post full of ^ characters, whatever that means.

I know 15-20 comedians.

I have no idea where you are going with this, would you mind being a little more concrete?
I dont know either, you seem to be calling me stupid. and the ^^^ means post above.
 

Ford Prefect

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May 28, 2009
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Sorry to interrupt your little discussion guys, but I've been meaning to ask this for a while now.

@ Ja5per: why are you always so overly critical of other peoples tastes? No offence but, at times, you come off as someone who only respects his own opinion, while people who don't adhere to it are stupid or ignorant.

Which seems all the more bizarre when you post things like this :




Once again, I don't mean to offend you or anything.
I seem to view a lot of media in a completely different light to a lot of you, iv studied it as an academic subject for the past 6 years, i have played guitar for 10 years. All of that seems to have made me extremely cynical when it comes to a lot of things. Which is great for me because it means i have a lot to discuss with a lot of different people. If you don't want to justify your views then don't reply to me, but i love discussing films and im sorry if i do it too agressivley, but thats how i write.
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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I dont know either, you seem to be calling me stupid. and the ^^^ means post above.
Aye, didn't know that.

Dara O'Briain - Okay, I like him but he's pretty run of the mill.
Bill Bailey - one of the all time greats. Went all the way to London last year to see him and he's even better live. I don't think he deserves to be called intellectual as such, but he's certainly in the very top of the intelligence scale among comedians. I love that instead of pandering he tries to open people's minds a little by talking different languages and talking about different geographical locations.
Bill Hicks - Really like him. Slight intellectual bent, but above all he plays on the "open your eyes to what's really going on", battling naiveté.
Dylan Moran - Haven't seen him that much, but I'd stick him with Dara O'Briain.

Of these I'd say Bill Bailey is by far the most intellectual, although his style is still a very approachable and easy to follow kind of intellectualism. Bill Hicks's jokes are also intelligent I would say.
 

Ford Prefect

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May 28, 2009
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Ok, I see. Sometimes it all sounds a bit intolerant, that's all.

So, not a Lynch fan huh?
Do you know how much i want to love the man? but he makes it too hard, and im just disolutioned. Im writing an essay on him today 2500 on the developments and continuities of american indipendent cinema in the 80s, 90s and 00s. Im doing Blue Velvet, Lost Highway and Mulholland Drive. Im going to base it on the way that lynch uses sexuality and that way that the films were produced and distributed against the contextual relevence. I might be able to like him after that. I really enjoyed Mulholland Drive, dont have a clue about it i also loved some of Lost Highway.
 

Ford Prefect

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May 28, 2009
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Aye, didn't know that.

Dara O'Briain - Okay, I like him but he's pretty run of the mill.
Bill Bailey - one of the all time greats. Went all the way to London last year to see him and he's even better live. I don't think he deserves to be called intellectual as such, but he's certainly in the very top of the intelligence scale among comedians. I love that instead of pandering he tries to open people's minds a little by talking different languages and talking about different geographical locations.
Bill Hicks - Really like him. Slight intellectual bent, but above all he plays on the "open your eyes to what's really going on", battling naiveté.
Dylan Moran - Haven't seen him that much, but I'd stick him with Dara O'Briain.

Of these I'd say Bill Bailey is by far the most intellectual, although his style is still a very approachable and easy to follow kind of intellectualism. Bill Hicks's jokes are also intelligent I would say.
I like dara so much because he bases most of his stand up on his audience and do routenes based on what the audience say to him.

BB is a genius, iv seen him live once and loved it. Its a shame tinselworm was such a let down.

BH again a great performer its a shame he died young.

Dylan Moran is very observational on his view of the world...heres a couple of his bits.


 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
May 22, 2009
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Do you know how much i want to love the man? but he makes it too hard, and im just disolutioned. Im writing an essay on him today 2500 on the developments and continuities of american indipendent cinema in the 80s, 90s and 00s. Im doing Blue Velvet, Lost Highway and Mulholland Drive. Im going to base it on the way that lynch uses sexuality and that way that the films were produced and distributed against the contextual relevence. I might be able to like him after that. I really enjoyed Mulholland Drive, dont have a clue about it i also loved some of Lost Highway.
Yeah, I kinda understand what you mean.

He's the kind of director whose films I definitely want to see, but I'm never really looking forward to it. If that makes any sense at all.

I thought Mulholland Drive was great though. Can't remember that much of Lost Highway, but as far as I remember I somewhat liked it. Haven't seen Blue Velvet yet (I know, shame on me).
 

Ford Prefect

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May 28, 2009
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Yeah, I kinda understand what you mean.

He's the kind of director whose films I definitely want to see, but I'm never really looking forward to it. If that makes any sense at all.

I thought Mulholland Drive was great though. Can't remember that much of Lost Highway, but as far as I remember I somewhat liked it. Haven't seen Blue Velvet yet (I know, shame on me).
Its funny how you started that post and ended it. Blue Velvet is just a straight forward mystery with some messed up sex scenes, if you want to go lynchy with it then theres loads of symblosism about the 'real america' in it.
 

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