Movie Talk (New Films, Old Films... doesn't matter) (71 Viewers)

[Quetzalcoatl]

I'm not a huge movie person in general. SciFi is a preferred genre though

 

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[JuveJay]

Only such a stupid generation of followers would praise something only for it's visual aspects. Which i admit are great. And two, following the Batman trilogy, which was very good given it's about a super hero, Nolan has gained such a name for himself around those fans. I have no doubt in my mind most of the people who went to watch it were either those people or Scifi fans.

Story is weak, not original, not mind blowing and especially not something worth of a masterpiece title. It's not only predictable and full of cliches from beginning to end, it's been dumbed down to the average viewer, the super hero fucker, who thought this was creative in any way. I don't need a movie holding my hand every step of the way, especially when it's aiming to be a "epic masterpiece"??

For Sci fi fans like me and millions out there, we liked it for let's be honest, it's not everyday we get a good Scifi movie with a huge budget. So in that aspect, i appreciate it. But it's just a blockbuster that leaves you with nothing to wonder. And i also understand why he had to dumb it down, $$$. But epic masterpiece? No.

I think it's more than a blockbuster, although I must admit that it didn't have a huge impact on me. I guess I expect too much from these super rated movies. I thought some of the science was a little dumbed down and flawed, but it was still sufficiently complex to have the average movie goer in a spin. I had to explain some of it to another person I went with, and I wasn't completely sure of what I was talking about or whether the science was correct.

Visually and audibly I thought it was amazing. I'll be honest and say that I wasn't really focused on Nolan as the director, I don't really follow the background to movies, just read the synopsis before I decide. But you can see his touches in there.

I didn't like how the movie panned out, and would agree that it's clearly no masterpiece. I had hoped for a modern 2001: A Space Odyssey, but that is hoping for too much. In terms of impact I felt Ex Machina a lot more.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

I'm not a huge movie person in general. SciFi is a preferred genre though

fair enough.

Well, it's been my favorite genre for at least 25, 30 years. So I probably watched 90% of movies/shows of this genre out there, well... The ones worth watching, of course. Maybe that's why i look at it from a different perspective.

But it's important to highlight i still enjoyed it to an extent. I appreciate it but i did not see a single reason to praise it as something more than a good movie. Visuals can only do so much.

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I think it's more than a blockbuster, although I must admit that it didn't have a huge impact on me. I guess I expect too much from these super rated movies. I thought some of the science was a little dumbed down and flawed, but it was still sufficiently complex to have the average movie goer in a spin. I had to explain some of it to another person I went with, and I wasn't completely sure of what I was talking about or whether the science was correct.

Visually and audibly I thought it was amazing. I'll be honest and say that I wasn't really focused on Nolan as the director, I don't really follow the background to movies, just read the synopsis before I decide. But you can see his touches in there.

I didn't like how the movie panned out, and would agree that it's clearly no masterpiece. I had hoped for a modern 2001: A Space Odyssey, but that is hoping for too much. In terms of impact I felt Ex Machina a lot more.

I agree with the rest but i have to disagree with it not being a blockbuster. It absolutely was. When something has the need to explain every step of the way, it's so the average viewer can understand. come on, man, even after the Black hole i expected something to blow my mind, and then every little thing gets explained in less than 5 minutes. Who they were, why he was there, what he was supposed to do, what would happen, etc..

I was like, wtf? Give me something to think about, damnit. Stop holding my hand!

Yes, definitely. Close to the end he uses his typical "build up" tense scenes where everything goes to shit in two different places at once.

To me it was just a longer Gravity with space travel. Comparing this to the likes of Space Odyssey and Solaris is a heresy and those people should burn

 

[JuveJay]

Well yeah, Gravity was the film that it was continually mentioned alongside, which is why I disagreed with your initial point about superhero movies

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

fair enough.

Well, it's been my favorite genre for at least 25, 30 years. So I probably watched 90% of movies/shows of this genre out there, well... The ones worth watching, of course. Maybe that's why i look at it from a different perspective.

But it's important to highlight i still enjoyed it to an extent. I appreciate it but i did not see a single reason to praise it as something more than a good movie. Visuals can only do so much.

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I agree with the rest but i have to disagree with it not being a blockbuster. It absolutely was. When something has the need to explain every step of the way, it's so the average viewer can understand. come on, man, even after the Black hole i expected something to blow my mind, and then every little thing gets explained in less than 5 minutes. Who they were, why he was there, what he was supposed to do, what would happen, etc..

I was like, wtf? Give me something to think about, damnit. Stop holding my hand!

Yes, definitely. Close to the end he uses his typical "build up" tense scenes where everything goes to shit in two different places at once.

To me it was just a longer Gravity with space travel. Comparing this to the likes of Space Odyssey and Solaris is a heresy and those people should burn

Pardon my movie ignorance, but has there been any other movies that comes close to executing visits to other planets? That was one of the things that blew me away.

And the audio and visuals on their own may not be enough for most, to make the movie a masterpiece, but for me, I was awestruck at times, and even felt high. It was like hearing Pink Floyd-s 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond 1-5' for the first time

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Nolan has built a HUGE super hero fanbase because of the Batman movies. He's praised as one of the big directors of today because of it.

 

[JuveJay]

Pardon my movie ignorance, but has there been any other movies that comes close to executing visits to other planets? That was one of the things that blew me away.

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[Quetzalcoatl]

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Didn't save anything from that movie to memory

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Pardon my movie ignorance, but has there been any other movies that comes close to executing visits to other planets? That was one of the things that blew me away.

And the audio and visuals on their own may not be enough for most, to make the movie a masterpiece, but for me, I was awestruck at times, and even felt high. It was like hearing Pink Floyd-s 'Shine On You Crazy Diamond 1-5' for the first time

Yes there are some like Contact, Serenity, Alien but tbh there are more shows than movies. All the Star Treks and i mean all, there are at least 5. Doctor Who, Firefly, Farscape, Battlestar Galactica, and many more i won't remember right now.

I'm not judging people's feelings. If you felt that way with that movie, great. The point of watching a movie is to have an experience, and when it's good it's even better. I'm just sharing it didn't hit me the same way and i couldn't quite see why it was praised as "a masterpiece, the best scifi movie ever made"...

 

[Dostoevsky]

Yes there are some like Contact, Serenity, Alien but tbh there are more shows than movies. All the Star Treks and i mean all, there are at least 5. Doctor Who, Firefly, Farscape, Battlestar Galactica, and many more i won't remember right now.

I'm not judging people's feelings. If you felt that way with that movie, great. The point of watching a movie is to have an experience, and when it's good it's even better. I'm just sharing it didn't hit me the same way and i couldn't quite see why it was praised as "a masterpiece, the best scifi movie ever made"...

Try watching Battlefield Earth.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Try watching Battlefield Earth.

Fuck off

 

[Post Ironic]

Interstellar

Pros---> Great Visuals; Interesting and bold concept; Exploration of the relationship between science and faith and humanity was also interesting; Incredibly ambitious

Cons---> Nolan has not heard of the concept "show don't tell" (essential in books, far more so in movies); mediocre acting; dialogue is incredibly dull (which probably doesn't help the acting); over-sentimental at times; clumsy.

In-Between ---> The score was excellent in some ways, but seemed a little off at others. Poor sound mixing perhaps? The characters were a little thin.

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Interstellar

Pros---> Great Visuals; Interesting and bold concept; Exploration of the relationship between science and faith and humanity was also interesting; Incredibly ambitious

Cons---> Nolan has not heard of the concept "show don't tell" (essential in books, far more so in movies); mediocre acting; dialogue is incredibly dull (which probably doesn't help the acting); over-sentimental at times; clumsy.

In-Between ---> The score was excellent in some ways, but seemed a little off at others. Poor sound mixing perhaps? The characters were a little thin.

I forgot to mention that. I studied sound engineering for 3 years and i was appalled to how badly mixed it was. Some voice overs were too low, others too high. Some phrases had higher frequencies and then at the end of it you'd get a sudden change. It was like a monkey was playing with the editing.

And i have to believe something with that big of a budget and workers with that level of professionalism can't have missed that, it had to be intentional. I had 2 other friends who didn't study but also happen to be musicians and they all said the same thing.

 

[Post Ironic]

I forgot to mention that. I studied sound engineering for 3 years and i was appalled to how badly mixed it was. Some voice overs were too low, others too high. Some phrases had higher frequencies and then at the end of it you'd get a sudden change. It was like a monkey was playing with the editing.

And i have to believe something with that big of a budget and workers with that level of professionalism can't have missed that, it had to be intentional. I had 2 other friends who didn't study but also happen to be musicians and they all said the same thing.

Yeah. I wasn't too sure about what exactly was wrong with it, as I don't have the technical background, but that seemed to be what popped into my head first.

Like you said, it had to be intentional, but then the question is why they would want it to be mixed so badly? It doesn't make sense.

 

[Lion]

let's make some things clear.

the best sci fi movie is predator, followed by men in black

if u thought anything else then lol at u for being a sheep

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Yeah. I wasn't too sure about what exactly was wrong with it, as I don't have the technical background, but that seemed to be what popped into my head first.

Like you said, it had to be intentional, but then the question is why they would want it to be mixed so badly? It doesn't make sense.

Looking for more people with the reactions i found this:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/christopher-nolan-breaks-silence-interstellar-749465

I'm really sorry but all this is sound like a BAG OF SHIT excuse. He's trying sooo hard to look like a genius, a visionary, a man that experiments with his art, that takes it to the next level. Ever fucking heard of Kubrick, Nolan? That's a genius, that's a visionary, that's a man who experimented with his art in a way nobody did, that's a man who took it to the next level. You're just a good blockbuster director and the sound for your movie sucked.

 

[Post Ironic]

Looking for more people with the reactions i found this:

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/christopher-nolan-breaks-silence-interstellar-749465

I'm really sorry but all this is sound like a BAG OF $#@! excuse. He's trying sooo hard to look like a genius, a visionary, a man that experiments with his art, that takes it to the next level. Ever $#@!ing heard of Kubrick, Nolan? That's a genius, that's a visionary, that's a man who experimented with his art in a way nobody did, that's a man who took it to the next level. You're just a good blockbuster director and the sound for your movie sucked.

Yeah. This quote from that article:

"I don’t agree with the idea that you can only achieve clarity through dialogue. Clarity of story, clarity of emotions — I try to achieve that in a very layered way using all the different things at my disposal — picture and sound.”

Coming from a guy who basically treats the audience like children and holds their hands throughout the film with over-explication of every little thing. It seems a little ironic that he would go for the "esoteric" sound mixing as a way to create a unique viewing experience.

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let's make some things clear.

the best sci fi movie is predator, followed by men in black

if u thought anything else then lol at u for being a sheep

Stalker
2001: A Space Odyssey
Solaris
Metropolis

 

[CrimsonianKing]

Yeah. This quote from that article:



Coming from a guy who basically treats the audience like children and holds their hands throughout the film with over-explication of every little thing. It seems a little ironic that he would go for the "esoteric" sound mixing as a way to create a unique viewing experience.

You can tell from a mile away he's full of shit.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Is Mud any good?

And are there are good movies that came out which are worth of watching?

By the way I watched The Drop a couple of days ago. Hardy was pretty damn great but I didn't like the movie, pretty meh.

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Stalker
2001: A Space Odyssey
Solaris
Metropolis

Please expand that list a bit.

Looking for more people with the reactions i found this:

You too

 

[Post Ironic]

I wasn't a big fan of The Drop either. Quite disappointing, especially considering Mathias Schoenaerts, James Gandolfini, and Tom Hardy are all very good actors. It's another of those films where very good acting cannot make up for mediocre script and directing.

Did you ever see The Secret of Kells, Dusan? Irish animated film. I thought it was really really good. Of course, in terms of what it is.
The new one from the same studio just arrived on torrent sites. Song of the Sea. Really impressed again.