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chester

Too busy to bother
May 20, 2006
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I am with JcK on this. All the complaining about us signing Motta, Bonucci, Martinez, Pepe and Storari is annoying as hell, for what you guys know, Motta, Bonucci, Pepe and Martinez might step up their game and turn out to be great transfers.
Storari is bought to recoup the Buffon injury, only Manning just isn't sufficient enough.
I am reading posts from some persons that we are headed towards the relegation zone, FFS, that is plain rediculous.

Stop whining and give the guys we signed a chance and wait until transfer period is over, then it will be more clear were we stand and who we signed.

I think, that is all JcK wants to say.
 

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AOD4

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Nov 24, 2004
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I am with JcK on this. All the complaining about us signing Motta, Bonucci, Martinez, Pepe and Storari is annoying as hell, for what you guys know, Motta, Bonucci, Pepe and Martinez might step up their game and turn out to be great transfers.
:agree: I am excited to see the Malaka
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
I don't understand the whining that has been done about the transfers and the new season that hasn't even started. They are turning our new team/season into a malaka before it even starts! :snoop:


Squad depth is huge here and Bonucci, Martinez, Storari, and Pepe is definitely much better than Legro/Cannavaro, injured inconsistent Camoranesi, Chimenti and Brazzo.....anyone that would disagree there is ill.


We just brought 4 pretty good players here, not world beaters but enough to get the job done that they are being paid to do.
 

Lo-Pan

Disciple of Gonzo
Feb 11, 2009
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I don't understand the whining that has been done about the transfers and the new season that hasn't even started. They are turning our new team/season into a malaka before it even starts! :snoop:


Squad depth is huge here and Bonucci, Martinez, Storari, and Pepe is definitely much better than Legro/Cannavaro, injured inconsistent Camoranesi, Chimenti and Brazzo.....anyone that would disagree there is ill.


We just brought 4 pretty good players here, not world beaters but enough to get the job done that they are being paid to do.
Agreed.:flag1:
 

Cronios

Juventolog
Jun 7, 2004
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I am with JcK on this. All the complaining about us signing Motta, Bonucci, Martinez, Pepe and Storari is annoying as hell, for what you guys know, Motta, Bonucci, Pepe and Martinez might step up their game and turn out to be great transfers.
You and Jack can easily skip the posts the posts you find depressive. For any reasonable or not reason.
But neither of you has the right to discredit or attack any poster who expresses his opinion, just because it happens to be contradictory to your dreams.
The only poster who spoke about us getting relegated now, was Jack and he only did it to misguide and create impressions. (As he regularly does)

At any case that doesnt make you, him or any other more "just".
I have been reading delusional posts of a title contender Juve and trust to five year projects and new mediocre players. But i never called anyone dellusional, dismissed his theory without arguments and threatened to leave the forums like jack did!
Who is to judge if someone is delusional or not?
Is some form of negative power, formed from negative posts/thoughts are going to affect our team? Should we tolerate +embrace what we consider as a wrong course, only to expess our selves with happy feelings and wishfull thinking? The whining for the moaners have gone too far.
Esp when someone is attacked for his opinion on thread that has never had the chance to talk about before.
I have given some certain arguments and im ready to present many more, to defend my criticism on certain decisions. I havent seen yet any arguments on why those unproven, young and Italians will improve their play and curry our team to their shoulders, in heights they couldnt curry their previous team and our team couldnt reach with better proportion of quality players and coach. I have seen no arguments, but the wishful thinking of all the small time fans and teams around the globe who are thinking that their team will do better just becaused they wished for it...
Players like the above mentioned, come and go every year.
The very same players and coach in SAmpdoria wouldnt make them title contenders in our eyes. But a comprimised mercato of a small Italian team, and yet we overrate them now just because they are ours and consider our success a certainty, discarding any criticisms and reality check.
Its everyones right/choice/ability to be delusional.
I will not stop him, i have no right to stop him! But i demand a found explanation, why i dont have the right to have a different opinion and express it!
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
125,382
It's not only the whining about the players we sign, there is even whining on the players we are linked with, there is whining on the amount of money a certain players gets paid, there is whining on the way a certain newspapers speculates we are going to play, there is whining on an article that says Giovinco will be sold, there is whining on rumours saying Diego will be included in a deal for signing Molinaro again.

They call it criticism, they call it voicing our concerns, they call it caring but I call it moaning and bitching and I am getting damn bored of it. There is really no exchange of thoughts and ideas when giovanotti tells us "Diego should stay" seven times a day, now after I over did it, he stopped. There is no exchange of thoughts when Cronios says we are heading to be relegation battlers because his decision is made and there no room for discussion with him and there is absolutely no room for discussion with Turk when he gets all worked up when he reads how much Poulsen gets paid.
 

Nenz

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Apr 17, 2008
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It's not only the whining about the players we sign, there is even whining on the players we are linked with, there is whining on the amount of money a certain players gets paid, there is whining on the way a certain newspapers speculates we are going to play, there is whining on an article that says Giovinco will be sold, there is whining on rumours saying Diego will be included in a deal for signing Molinaro again.

They call it criticism, they call it voicing our concerns, they call it caring but I call it moaning and bitching and I am getting damn bored of it. There is really no exchange of thoughts and ideas when giovanotti tells us "Diego should stay" seven times a day, now after I over did it, he stopped. There is no exchange of thoughts when Cronios says we are heading to be relegation battlers because his decision is made and there no room for discussion with him and there is absolutely no room for discussion with Turk when he gets all worked up when he reads how much Poulsen gets paid.
Jack, I agree completely that there are members over voicing their concerns and blowing a lot of our problems out of proportion and that makes me one of many. But you've posted how sick you are of it so many times in the past two or three days, I think everyones well and truely got the message.

Lets just get on with discussing things normally now and if Turk, Suns, Cronios etc want to keep panicking then let them because they'll eventually be ignored.
 

Gian

COME HOME MOGGI
Apr 12, 2009
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His contrat will expire in Januar 2011 (After 6 months)

Soo , CSKA have to sell him for Juvetnus price or will loose him for free .
So, let's get him in during the winter.

I can understand Marotta in this deal. And I agree with his handling totally. He's showing balls, cockiness, negation skills and some attitude. All the things Secco lacked.

Man I like that Marotta, I really think he has some good brains, got experience and understands his job.
 

JuveJay

Senior Signor
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Mar 6, 2007
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I think it is 31st December 2011 it expires, so January 1st 2012 when he is a free agent. We wouldn't be offering €15m (and CSKA wanting €16.5m-€18m) for a player with 6 months left on his contract.
 

Gian

COME HOME MOGGI
Apr 12, 2009
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Pepe - yes
Martinez - I have seen the guy play for Catania a lot as I am Sicilian and like to see what the Sicilian teams do in serie A. He is okay, if you look at his statistics you'll think he is a winger who is able to score. I don't see him as that to be honest, the goals he scored were mainly tap ins to be honest, but the guy has the Inzaghi sense about standing in the right place. He is a very good header. But he isn't going to be our Camo if people think that. He can cross but it's not a signing to get all pumped up at this moment, he has to prove his worth and with the injuries we get every season he'll get a lot of chances. The Pepe signing I just see as backup. I think Del Neri wants to win at least one piece of silverware, and he knows with the injuries we will have he need a lot of backups. Serie A won't happen anytime soon. Coppa we can surely win and EL is also possible.
 
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