this is going to be a tough game!!!
i sure hope Nedved and DP are in good form on saturday
i sure hope Nedved and DP are in good form on saturday
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It's milan again ........
boring team ,,,, 1 stricker ,, bunch of selfish guys in midfield ,,
how dare they say that they play beautiful football ?!!!!!!
lippi must be brave ,, he must make the race to title in 2 teams only milan does not deserve to fight for the title champion league 4th place is fair enough for them ......
boring team ,,,, 1 stricker ,, bunch of selfish guys in midfield ,,
how dare they say that they play beautiful football ?!!!!!!
lippi must be brave ,, he must make the race to title in 2 teams only milan does not deserve to fight for the title champion league 4th place is fair enough for them ......
no way!!
have you seen the Milan at the begining of the season?!
they played great.
beating Depor and Munich so nicely.
beating Real Madrid.
they are going through a tough time, but if Milan were at their best, they could beat any team in europe.
at the moment, lottu's got it all wrong.
him and Cuper are a bunch of 2nd place coaches. they might be good tactically, but they dont know how to motivate and go all the way.
i hope Milan wins something this year, they deserve at least a cup.
have you seen the Milan at the begining of the season?!
they played great.
beating Depor and Munich so nicely.
beating Real Madrid.
they are going through a tough time, but if Milan were at their best, they could beat any team in europe.
at the moment, lottu's got it all wrong.
him and Cuper are a bunch of 2nd place coaches. they might be good tactically, but they dont know how to motivate and go all the way.
i hope Milan wins something this year, they deserve at least a cup.
Cuper is much better than what you think.
3 european finals in a row is not something that walks away like this. Maybe he lost them all, but it was with teams that no one believed they can make it.
Inter were deep in the ground when Cuper joined them, after what our dear Lippi did to them. he actually made them a top team, even though he lost the scudetto.
Inter are our main threat for the scudetto this season, so I hope they will lose points at Udine, because it's reasonable that we will lose some points as well.
3 european finals in a row is not something that walks away like this. Maybe he lost them all, but it was with teams that no one believed they can make it.
Inter were deep in the ground when Cuper joined them, after what our dear Lippi did to them. he actually made them a top team, even though he lost the scudetto.
Inter are our main threat for the scudetto this season, so I hope they will lose points at Udine, because it's reasonable that we will lose some points as well.
why they are able to beat all europe team?...coz thay have already established player....most of them between 26 to 29..this is the motivation that will drive to good performance...let the experience tell it....
milan success easily in europe coz they have lucky draw (easy group based on the paper).....they able to beat munchen and depor coz both of the team are not on form yet at that time...if milan in juve situation, maybe this is one of their hard momment also...for me shev's goal in madrid game are lucky.....
so, i predict we can beat milan in this weekend but we must be careful.....we must keep our current fighting spirit that we have done before in Serie A......milan such a scrap when they meet chievo....
juve 3 milan 2
forza juve
milan success easily in europe coz they have lucky draw (easy group based on the paper).....they able to beat munchen and depor coz both of the team are not on form yet at that time...if milan in juve situation, maybe this is one of their hard momment also...for me shev's goal in madrid game are lucky.....
so, i predict we can beat milan in this weekend but we must be careful.....we must keep our current fighting spirit that we have done before in Serie A......milan such a scrap when they meet chievo....
juve 3 milan 2
forza juve
++ [ originally posted by sheva ] ++
Denco, its not that Sheva cannot fit into the style of play, its that he has been used badly by Ancelotti a couple of times and the fact that Rivaldo is playing like Parmatti the playmaker
If Carlo decides to play this
Sheva Inzaghi
Rui Costa
Seedorf Gattuso
Pirlo
Maldini Nesta Costacurta Simic
Dida
We will loose. We shall be punished. I love Juve, but this is Milan's last chance, a do or die:fero: I certainly don't see them messing this up:groan: Their defense this season has been profilific to say the least and I highly doubt that they will make the same mistakes that they made in the first match. Shevchenko has scored against us 4 times in three games that Juve have played Milan in the San Siro, and just like the Milan -Real game, its his chance to finally come back and shine. Another thing, Rui Costa is starting to get bak to old form again, Gattuso has reached a peak and most importantly, Rivaldo will not be played to screw things up.
Most of Milan's scoring difficulties have come from the fact that Rivaldo is used as a striker and comes back into the midfield leaving either Sheva or Pippo alone to be marked by 2 or three men at times. If I'm correct both Pippo and Sheva will be used and they will try to start using the width more often.
Ambrosini might still be injured, but we all know Pirlo's capabilities:dazed: Maldini is playing left back because Kaladze is injured and so thats why Costacurta has been brought in.
Honestly, I predict a Milan win and their return in the scudetto challenge. I'm sorry if I seem too pessimistic but thats how I feel,those are my predictions and Ac are my other half, but our failure would probably be due to their motivation. If I'm wrong, I still win as I love Juve too
Denco, its not that Sheva cannot fit into the style of play, its that he has been used badly by Ancelotti a couple of times and the fact that Rivaldo is playing like Parmatti the playmaker
If Carlo decides to play this
Sheva Inzaghi
Rui Costa
Seedorf Gattuso
Pirlo
Maldini Nesta Costacurta Simic
Dida
We will loose. We shall be punished. I love Juve, but this is Milan's last chance, a do or die:fero: I certainly don't see them messing this up:groan: Their defense this season has been profilific to say the least and I highly doubt that they will make the same mistakes that they made in the first match. Shevchenko has scored against us 4 times in three games that Juve have played Milan in the San Siro, and just like the Milan -Real game, its his chance to finally come back and shine. Another thing, Rui Costa is starting to get bak to old form again, Gattuso has reached a peak and most importantly, Rivaldo will not be played to screw things up.
Most of Milan's scoring difficulties have come from the fact that Rivaldo is used as a striker and comes back into the midfield leaving either Sheva or Pippo alone to be marked by 2 or three men at times. If I'm correct both Pippo and Sheva will be used and they will try to start using the width more often.
Ambrosini might still be injured, but we all know Pirlo's capabilities:dazed: Maldini is playing left back because Kaladze is injured and so thats why Costacurta has been brought in.
Honestly, I predict a Milan win and their return in the scudetto challenge. I'm sorry if I seem too pessimistic but thats how I feel,those are my predictions and Ac are my other half, but our failure would probably be due to their motivation. If I'm wrong, I still win as I love Juve too
Look at Real Madrid, Arsenal and Milan , the way it works well for them is to play a striker and creativity all around them so they play with one striker and one withdrawn striker
The only way for Milan to play with sheva and Inzaghi is to have 2 wingers who will besupplying the crosses and because they have players who lprefer to go thru the middle then you cannot play 2 strikers
That formation you put out there will give Milan huge problems
I should be a manager really , easy thing this managing lark
why do you keep bringing up this 26-29 argument!?!?
of course most players are at their prime between these ages as the youth factor and the experience is at a good balance.
i dont know why your point is in brining this up, i already said milan had a good team!!
they dont have the luckiest Draw!!!!
juve had newcastle, feynoord and kiev!
does any of these teams compare with Munich and depor, which milan had..
i dont think Milan have been lucky at all.
they even drew real madrid in the second round.
Depor weren't in a bad form when milan met them. remember, they are still depor and Munich, no matter how how bad a time they are going through, milan won the group easily!! (over a couple of months, so you can't say that they were lucky!)
about this weekend, i think Juve can beat Milan, but it deffinately won't be easy.
they have always been tough games no matter what position the teams are in the standings.
BTW, dont think that juve won the scudetto already!!
this attitude caused juve to lose the scudetto to lazio a couple of years ago!!!
of course most players are at their prime between these ages as the youth factor and the experience is at a good balance.
i dont know why your point is in brining this up, i already said milan had a good team!!
they dont have the luckiest Draw!!!!
juve had newcastle, feynoord and kiev!
does any of these teams compare with Munich and depor, which milan had..
i dont think Milan have been lucky at all.
they even drew real madrid in the second round.
Depor weren't in a bad form when milan met them. remember, they are still depor and Munich, no matter how how bad a time they are going through, milan won the group easily!! (over a couple of months, so you can't say that they were lucky!)
about this weekend, i think Juve can beat Milan, but it deffinately won't be easy.
they have always been tough games no matter what position the teams are in the standings.
BTW, dont think that juve won the scudetto already!!
this attitude caused juve to lose the scudetto to lazio a couple of years ago!!!
This is a very importent game for us cause as i see the upcoming matches , Inter will play against Udinese away this week then home vs AS Roma , untill the milan derby will come , therefore Juve must get at least 1 pt from this match cause we'll have the opportunity to extend our lead at the top of the table.
According to Italian medias Treze will start from the bench cause he is not in a perfect situation with his knee altought he's better.
Milan side Maldini recovered while Sergigno not yet.
IMO Sergigno is a key player 4 Milan cause with his quikness and mouvement can supply to Rivaldo slowness and cause his crosses are bedly needed 4 Inzaghi.
Rivaldo looked in a terrible shape lately (he was even booed in San Siro) but looks like Ancelotti will insist on him, living Sheva on the bench.
Milan side Maldini recovered while Sergigno not yet.
IMO Sergigno is a key player 4 Milan cause with his quikness and mouvement can supply to Rivaldo slowness and cause his crosses are bedly needed 4 Inzaghi.
Rivaldo looked in a terrible shape lately (he was even booed in San Siro) but looks like Ancelotti will insist on him, living Sheva on the bench.
++ [ originally posted by denco ] ++
I know you like Sheva and all that but he has lost form and also when you have a team with a lot of skilful players the last thing u can do is play 2 out and out strikers
Look at Real Madrid, Arsenal and Milan , the way it works well for them is to play a striker and creativity all around them so they play with one striker and one withdrawn striker
The only way for Milan to play with sheva and Inzaghi is to have 2 wingers who will besupplying the crosses and because they have players who lprefer to go thru the middle then you cannot play 2 strikers
That formation you put out there will give Milanyou huge problems
I should be a manager really , easy thing this managing lark
I know you like Sheva and all that but he has lost form and also when you have a team with a lot of skilful players the last thing u can do is play 2 out and out strikers
Look at Real Madrid, Arsenal and Milan , the way it works well for them is to play a striker and creativity all around them so they play with one striker and one withdrawn striker
The only way for Milan to play with sheva and Inzaghi is to have 2 wingers who will besupplying the crosses and because they have players who lprefer to go thru the middle then you cannot play 2 strikers
That formation you put out there will give Milanyou huge problems
I should be a manager really , easy thing this managing lark
However, Raul, Ronaldo, Guti, Morientes, all strike, as are ready in the box to score goals. The so called creativity that you indicate to be Rivaldo is barely a striker. He prves time and time again that he is not a striker, and ends up crowding the midfield, cramping Rui Costa's space, does not use the width, doesn't pass to Sheva if he can avoid it and has not settled into Milan yet Playing Rivaldo as creativity around the loan striker,probably Pippo would be great in theory, but this is the real world and that doesn't seem to be working as he leaves the loan striker stranded and outnumbered by defenders:fero: Plus, Sheva is not an all out striker, but a skillful forward, that assists, and scores. He really isn't that lone Vieri loafing type, but I'm sure he can do that well also:cheesy:
Sheva in my opinion has not lost form, but instead, having been plagued with injuries and being fielded next to the out of form Rivaldo, just hasn't been given the right chance.
To add more pressure to Juve, Costacurta has recently said that Milan have started back the friendship, laughter and unity that aided their success in the start of the season.
My theory of football, is that the game is determined by motivation. A team that is full of friends and more interested in the club's success than their own personal success can go all the way. I'm not saying that Juve don't have this , its just that Milan players seem to have it with them.
Anyway, I could be wrong, and if I am my equally favourite team wins
However they don't need to while Milan does, but anyway goodluck Juve, because Milan will no longer need it.P.S. Majed you and I seem to share some things in common, cheers
Now we will examine the best players from Milan and Juventus as reported by the "opta index." Filippo Inzaghi is the best goal scorer for Milan with 60 attempts, 22% of which are goals. Nedved is the best for Juve with 58 attempts, 14% of which are goals. Pirlo beats Thuram in the passing category: 1495 for the Rossonero (83% completed) to 1178 by the Juventino (83%). Once again it is Nedved who is the Juventus player who has attempted the most crosses with 161, an average of 29% completed. The cross leader for Milan is Rui Costa with 140 crosses, 30% completed. For Ancelotti's squad, Rino Gattuso has made the most interventions, 109 in total of which 76% have been positive. Tacchinardi is the best in this category for Juve with 64 interventions 80% completed. We close with dribbling: the Milanisti Rui Costa beats the Juventino Camoranesi with 211 dribbling attempts (64% completed) to 143 (62%).
Continuing with our "opta index" comparisons, we will take a look at Milan vs Juventus head to head. Starting with goals scored: Milan have scored 44 goals with an average of 1.8 goals a match; Juve have scored 48 times with an average of 1.9 goals a match. The Rossoneri have attempted 313 shots on goal with 47% being on target and 14% finishing in the net; the Biaconeri have shot 342 times, 42% being on target and 13% actually scored. We examine now the passing of both teams: Milan have attempted 9675 short passes and 3287 long passes while Juve have attempted 8280 and 3240 respectively. Ancelotti's squad is also superior in pass completion, having 83% to Juve's 81%. Milan have attempted 738 crosses with a completion percentage of 24. Juve are 26% on 713 attempted crosses. The Rossonero defense have allowed 3 goals more than the Juventino defense, 19 to 16 with a goal against average of 0.8 for Milan and 0.6 for Juve. We conclude this examination with a look at discipline: Milan have committed 453 fouls, have received 30 yellow cards and 2 expulsions. Juve have committed 488 fouls, with 28 yellow cards and 2 expulsions