You went through them million times, yet you only managed to convince yourself and no one else.
Don't really come around here and lie with this propaganda saying they were forced to leave. Don't invent stuff. This is Juventus forums where people come to learn thing or two and know some facts about their club.
So when you say they were forced, explain how/sources and etc. If you don't want, then fine, but then again don't post If you don't care.
As for me being blinded, I haven't called you names and I'm respecting you so far, so I think you should do the same, know whom you're calling blinded fan before writing that....eh?
I dont have to convince anybody. It´s not my job, really. People like BBILAN know what I´m talking about and there are many else. (won´t name them)
I don´t invent stuff, I´m being reasonable. Now, just think logically. You say they are all traitors. Now I´m asking you for your definition of traitors. Show me by examples.
I´d like to begin with this:
- Do you think all the players were meant to stay at the club? If not, if our Board really decided to sell them for our own good (and their), how can they be labelled as traitors? For example, as I recall Juventus were not fighting for Cannavaro, Emerson, Mutu, Zambrotta and Thuram to stay at the club. As soon as we reached an agreement with Real Madrid, Fiorentina and Barcelona, we agreed to sell them. No hard feelings.
Now, in my opinion we have 4 categories of players which left us in thge scandal.
1st group
Emerson- went to Real Madrid. We don´t know how many offer he had or did have any offers beside Real Madrid. If he did, he probably chose Real because of Capello, his favourite manager (which is quite reasonable for me, other players have their preferred managers too) or because of the club itself, as Real Madrid is one of the most prestgious clubs in the world. Emerson was one of the 1st to leave and if I may remind you we didn´t know our club´s destiny. We could have played Serie C and if you ask me that is a bit too much of a risk for a top quality player at his 30´s.
Cannavaro,
Zambrotta,
Mutu and
Thuram all belong to that category.
Some of us were hit by Zambrotta´s and Thuram´s statements, but I don´t blame them, they were going through hard moment. Do you know what it means to fight 2 years for the Scudetto and they take result of all that hard work from you. You should try to put yourself in that situation.
All these players were important for our club ands when they played they gave their all and I think you know that. When they were offered to leave, they left. They left because in reality they don´t have Juventus in their heart. Does that make them traitors?
2nd group of players
In that category belong
Ibrahimovic and
Vieira. Totally different examples. These two players didn´t enjoy at all playing for Juve and that can be seen this season with Inter. It appears they have not been satisifed at all with our shirt and they weren´t exactly irreplacable for Juventus.
Vieira - He also didn´t know what will the destiny of Juventus be and it was a big risk for him as he is also in his 30´s so he decided to left and Juventus didn´t make him any problems. I don´t know how many offers did he have, but it was obvious it was pretty low to go to Inter. On the other hand, Inter maybe offered more money and maybe Inter was his preferable destination. Fine, he left and nobody will remember him by good things he has done for Juve. I can realise why you don´t like him.
Ibrahimovic - totally different example here. Juventus actually wanted to keep him. He is still young, he could have helped Juventus to get out of problems and if he decided to leave next season he would still have a lot of clubs fighting for his signature. On the other hand he also was a bit unhappy at Juventus and from time to time he didn´t exactly give his all to the club but I guess that varies from player to player. He had the hunger to prove himself playing in top league and he also didn´t know the destiny of Juventus. So, Inter came along and bought him. He probably chose Inter because they were his preferred club. In the end we received good money for him so I would say he was a mistake from the first but at least he could have
shown more respect to Juve, I totally understand why you dislike him.
3rd group of players
Camoranesi and
Trezeguet - Now this I don´t understand. You call all the players who left mercenaries/traitors but not these two players which stayed. How come? May I remind you that Camoranesi and Trezeguet would also be playing for other clubs if the club haven´t blocked them? Yes, Camoranesi and Trezeguet had some offers and they were ready to go, but the club didn´t allow them to change the club. So, they can´t be called heroes or whatsoever IMO, that would be just ignorant.
4th group of players
I think that I don´t need to waste any words on these players: Nedved, Del Piero, Buffon. These 3 players are Juventus leaders, heroes and personalities. They had good offers from other clubs even if DP and Nedved are deep in their 30´s but they refused it all just to help Juve no matter what league their play. true legends in everybody´s eyes.
Now I hope I cleared up this for you, Rab and I apologise for calling you blind although I don´t think that is an insult.