Maurizio Sarri (106 Viewers)

[rainhard]

Juve 20/21 actually is a better team for Sarri

But what a better team can give if you don't have control anymore of the dressing room. So sacking him is the right move for us
As far I saw, Sarri is just like a stop-gap as he cannot implement his idea
But well we get the Scudetto and UCL money for this season

Maybe he better go back to Napoli where he belongs
But I am pretty sure he will beat us if Pirlo or Gattuso is our coach

 

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[zizinho]

It's tricky to compare points like that because of covid last season. There is a clear before and after lockdown situation.

In the end Sarri actually won the scudetto, Pirlo depends on Cagliari, Verona, and Atalanta achieve 4th place.

Pirlo has a better team too. Give Sarri Arthur, Chiesa, Kulusevski and Morata and he would compete with Inter.

You can also say that this whole season has been a covid shitshow. Pirlo still has it more difficult imo

Costa last season was better than all our wingers except Chiesa, we had Dybala healthy and in form. The only place we improved was CF, but again, Sarri used Dybala there. The rest are downgrades, atleast in the short run

 

[Gigiventus]

You can also say that this whole season has been a covid shitshow. Pirlo still has it more difficult imo

Costa last season was better than all our wingers except Chiesa, we had Dybala healthy and in form. The only place we improved was CF, but again, Sarri used Dybala there. The rest are downgrades, atleast in the short run

Costa didn't even play 10 full games last season and scored only 1 goal. A total non factor last season. Bernardeschi was more our starter, and it doesn't need to be said how much better Chiesa is than Bernardeschi.

 

[zizinho]

We secured the scudetto after round 36 last season, if you want to compare points directly that's the best point to do the comparison as the remaining 2 rounds in 2019/20 were garbage points we didnt pick up. 2019/20 we had 83 points after round 36, 2020/21 we had 72, imo -11 is the real difference in performance.

You might say Inter is doing better than last season and that's obviously true (although we'll never now if Pazza Inter would show up if someone put them under any kind of pressure) but at no point during the season were we even 2nd in the table, our best position this season has been 3rd and now we're praying Atalanta/Verona bail us out and we manage to squeeze 4th place. Claiming Pirlo = Sarri is just delusional, Pirlo isn't just a worse coach than Sarri, he's also a worse coach than plenty of other coaches that are worse than Sarri.

There is more teams competing at the top this season. Also there was a covid break, at the brink of Lazio catching us. They were terrible after the break and were in amazing for before, so it benefited us as well to cut the season at a moment of our weakness. Anyway, results show they are comparable in level, atleast when it comes to coaching a top side. If Max was leaving we needed a top coach, or someone young with vision and room to improve like Simone Inzaghi. Sarri was a clear downgrade

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Costa didn't even play 10 full games last season and scored only 1 goal. A total non factor last season. Bernardeschi was more our starter, and it doesn't need to be said how much better Chiesa is than Bernardeschi.

Yes but you brought up the new players. Kulusevski. Berna was there last season as well as this season. If you want to talk about starters in terms of how much they played, Berna wasn't out starter last season either. You can look at which 11 played the most and compare their quality to this seasons players that played the most, or you can compare the incoming players to the outgoing

 

[Gigiventus]

There is more teams competing at the top this season. Also there was a covid break, at the brink of Lazio catching us. They were terrible after the break and were in amazing for before, so it benefited us as well to cut the season at a moment of our weakness. Anyway, results show they are comparable in level, atleast when it comes to coaching a top side. If Max was leaving we needed a top coach, or someone young with vision and room to improve like Simone Inzaghi. Sarri was a clear downgrade

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Yes but you brought up the new players. Kulusevski. Berna was there last season as well as this season. If you want to talk about starters in terms of how much they played, Berna wasn't out starter last season either. You can look at which 11 played the most and compare their quality to this seasons players that played the most, or you can compare the incoming players to the outgoing

In all those cases its the same. Kulusevski > Costa last year, Chiesa > Costa + Berna, Morata > Higuain

 

[zizinho]

In all those cases its the same. Kulusevski > Costa last year, Chiesa > Costa + Berna, Morata > Higuain

Most used XI

Szczesny
Cuadrado De Ligt Bonucci Alex Sandro
Bentancur Pjanic Matuidi
Dybala Higuain Ronaldo
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Next best: Rabiot, Danilo, Berna, Ramsey

Szczesny
Cuadrado De Ligt Bonucci Danilo
Kulusevski Bentancur Rabiot Chiesa
Morata Ronaldo
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Next best: AS, McKennie, Arthur, Demiral

We got Chiesa but we lost Dybala, Kulu has been bad and Pjanic and Matuidi are better than the current mids. Bentancur also got worse, as did Szczesny and Bonucci. Morata is an improvement on Higuain and Danilo is better than last year. Still, last year team did slightly better against weaker competition. I think the coaches are comparable on this level of coaching. Sarri would have probably won 80pts with this team, but can you say that Pirlo if he was hired a year prior, wouldn't do the same in his 2nd season? Because some point losses were just lack of experience from him

 

[Strickland]

There is more teams competing at the top this season. Also there was a covid break, at the brink of Lazio catching us. They were terrible after the break and were in amazing for before, so it benefited us as well to cut the season at a moment of our weakness. Anyway, results show they are comparable in level, atleast when it comes to coaching a top side. If Max was leaving we needed a top coach, or someone young with vision and room to improve like Simone Inzaghi. Sarri was a clear downgrade

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Sarri -> Pirlo is just as big of a downgrade as Allegri -> Sarri. Sarri did not do good enough and deservedly got the sack, but that doesn't mean Pirlo isn't worse, because he clearly is, we're hoping for Verona and Atalanta to bail us out so we can qualify for CL lol.

 

[zizinho]

Sarri -> Pirlo is just as big of a downgrade as Allegri -> Sarri. Sarri did not do good enough and deservedly got the sack, but that doesn't mean Pirlo isn't worse, because he clearly is, we're hoping for Verona and Atalanta to bail us out so we can qualify for CL lol.

Pirlo is currently 33-10-8 for the season in all competitions. Sarri was 34-8-10. Difference is Pirlo won both his finals, sarri lost both, and Pirlo dropped 2 more games in the league compared to Sarri. That's it, otherwise we're the same

 

[Post Ironic]

Pirlo - 2 trophies

Sarri - 1 trophy

Pirlo > Sarri



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@Strickland

I’m just going by Sarriboi logic

 

[Strickland]

Pirlo is currently 33-10-8 for the season in all competitions. Sarri was 34-8-10. Difference is Pirlo won both his finals, sarri lost both, and Pirlo dropped 2 more games in the league compared to Sarri. That's it, otherwise we're the same

Trust me, I'm happy as hell we won the last game Gigi played in our shirt, but that doesn't change that we're on course to finish 5th in the league

 

[zizinho]

Pirlo - 2 trophies

Sarri - 1 trophy

Pirlo > Sarri



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@Strickland

I’m just going by Sarriboi logic

S. Inzaghi > Sarri = Pirlo > Gattuso > Gasp

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Trust me, I'm happy as hell we won the last game Gigi played in our shirt, but that doesn't change that we're on course to finish 5th in the league

Me too, but if we finish 4th, that means we have same amount of wins as last year, and 2 more draws. And then, would you rather lose those 2 finals and finish with 84pts or like this, assuming we end up in CL ofcourse?

 

[DAiDEViL]

Finally a day to celebrate in this shit season and you fucks bump the chainsmoker thread ffs.

 

[campionesidd]

Sarri -> Pirlo is just as big of a downgrade as Allegri -> Sarri. Sarri did not do good enough and deservedly got the sack, but that doesn't mean Pirlo isn't worse, because he clearly is, we're hoping for Verona and Atalanta to bail us out so we can qualify for CL lol.

Hell no. Only difference between this season and the last is Dybala.

 

[Strickland]

Hell no. Only difference between this season and the last is Dybala.

in 2020/21 Morata, Chiesa, Kulu and Dybala have 43 goals and 30 assists.
in 2019/20 Higuain, Dybala and Costa have 31 goals and 29 assists

a year later Costa is dead on the Bayern bench and Higgy is basically retired in Miami. I think our attacking options got better not worse, even if Dybs season has been plagued by injuries.

 

[Post Ironic]

in 2020/21 Morata, Chiesa, Kulu and Dybala have 43 goals and 30 assists.
in 2019/20 Higuain, Dybala and Costa have 31 goals and 29 assists

a year later Costa is dead on the Bayern bench and Higgy is basically retired in Miami. I think our attacking options got better not worse, even if Dybs season has been plagued by injuries.

We have a better goal differential this year, and we have both scored more and conceded less than last year.

The biggest difference for me has been Pirlo’s inability to manage and adapt in those unexpectedly tight grinding sort of games that we should be winning 95% of the time. The Beneventos and Crotones. We picked up 5 of 12 points from those two teams. Add in those 7 points and a win tomorrow would give us 85 points. Then we see 1 of 6 points from a god-awful Viola that was fending off relegation zone most of the season and we have the difference between a scudetto challenge and not this year.

6 of 18 points collected against the 13th, 18th, 19th place sides in Serie A. Home losses against Viola and Benevento are completely unacceptable. Pirlo just didn’t figure out how to deal with this kind of game.

 

[Nedved96]

To be honest, I don’t think Pirlo has been much worse than Sarri

At the end of the day, the difference between them was Dybala. If Pirlo had a fit Dybala instead of a crooked one, he probably would have scored more points than Sarri did last season.

As @Post Ironic pointed out, Pirlo dropped a lot of points against bottom tier sides. When Dybala is fit, he usually destroys those teams.

Another big difference between them was the competition. This Inter team is very strong and on course to score over 90 points.

Also, Pirlo has won us a couple of trophies that Sarri lost. Although I don’t care that much about the Coppa or the SuperCoppa, at the end of the day they are still trophies.

 

[Strickland]

At this point I'd give up both Coppa and SuperCoppa without a second thought if it guaranteed us CL, nevermind the Scudetto.

 

[JCK]

FUCK SARRI

 

[.zero]

At this point I'd give up both Coppa and SuperCoppa without a second thought if it guaranteed us CL, nevermind the Scudetto.

you forgot to mention the fresh new ideas and progressive intergalactic trophy winning football that Paratici and Nedved were so convinced he would bring

 

[U Picciriddu]