Maurizio Sarri (102 Viewers)

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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You get the vibe from Paratici's interview that that's exactly it though. They made a decision and Smokey Robinson is staying.


Kinda where we are now. Bunch of new players coming in, sorta a mini revolution so keeping Sarri might be good. Signing someone else might be good too.

Tough call. I mean, could always bring Allegri back? Could take a chance on Poch? Could get a better midfield for Sarri and see if his philosophy actually takes off?

Only thing I'm sure of right now is I'm not really sure of anything at this point.
 

GarfielD

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May 21, 2009
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Cant believe I am saying this, but unless it is a world class coach (Klopp, ZZ, Pep) or a safe bet (Max), I wont sack Sarri. There is little time to get used ro new tactics, the new seasons starts in a month ffs. Getting Poch, De Zebri, S. Inzaghi or someone similar doesnt seem to be an upgrate over Sarri to me. Maybe it is, but as I said, the season starts in a month, i think we will stick with Sarri.

A lot of clubs will stick to their coaches I think, maybe only Barca wont. Even Inter will stick with Conte at the end.
 

Cerval

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Feb 20, 2016
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Cant believe I am saying this, but unless it is a world class coach (Klopp, ZZ, Pep) or a safe bet (Max), I wont sack Sarri. There is little time to get used ro new tactics, the new seasons starts in a month ffs. Getting Poch, De Zebri, S. Inzaghi or someone similar doesnt seem to be an upgrate over Sarri to me. Maybe it is, but as I said, the season starts in a month, i think we will stick with Sarri.

A lot of clubs will stick to their coaches I think, maybe only Barca wont. Even Inter will stick with Conte at the end.
Allegri started his first season at the end of pre-season. Sarri should be fucked off
 

IlCapitano

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Dec 16, 2012
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Cant believe I am saying this, but unless it is a world class coach (Klopp, ZZ, Pep) or a safe bet (Max), I wont sack Sarri. There is little time to get used ro new tactics, the new seasons starts in a month ffs. Getting Poch, De Zebri, S. Inzaghi or someone similar doesnt seem to be an upgrate over Sarri to me. Maybe it is, but as I said, the season starts in a month, i think we will stick with Sarri.

A lot of clubs will stick to their coaches I think, maybe only Barca wont. Even Inter will stick with Conte at the end.
Max isn't a world class coach?

I also don't see how there's little time for new coach. Teams usually spend a month to month and a half on preseason in normal circumstances. And like two weeks of that is conditioning. Players will be game ready already from this season which will leave them a full month to get adjusted to new tactics. It's unusual but the amount of time is no different to any other season.
 

Cerval

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But he had a perfect team left to him. Look at this mess that we have at the moment... Too many players to replace, too litle time to do it.
Mercato officially starts in September and ends in October. Still a long way to go, provided we sell a few of them it'll help already

Moreover Solari was gotten rid off mid-season and Zidane still provided results. Being introduced in a small time frame between seasons is not entirely ideal but still very feasible if the coach replacement is competent. With our current cosch we are going to hit a wall
 

GarfielD

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May 21, 2009
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Max isn't a world class coach?
Of course he is, and plus he is a safe bet. I would get him here in a hearbit. But i dont see it happening. If we sack Sarri, he will be replaced with De Zebri, Pochetino or someone similar.

Let me make it clear, i am not a fan of Sarri. He shouldnt have been signed at the first place. But now, in this situation i'd rather keep him and fix the squad since i dont see us getting a better coach.
 

CrimsonianKing

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Kinda where we are now. Bunch of new players coming in, sorta a mini revolution so keeping Sarri might be good. Signing someone else might be good too.

Tough call. I mean, could always bring Allegri back? Could take a chance on Poch? Could get a better midfield for Sarri and see if his philosophy actually takes off?

Only thing I'm sure of right now is I'm not really sure of anything at this point.
The way I see it it comes down to quality over his stubborn tactics. If we have the quality individuals up front that can change games it will compensate for our defense being so toothless and him being unable to tactically adapt to different situations. Kinda like Pep's Barcelona. They kept the ball up higher on the pitch so the defense wasn't being tested as much. But in order to do that you need talented individuals and I mean TALENTED individuals. Sarri isn't gonna fix the defense issue (He can't fix how bad our fullbacks are except Cuadrado) and after bringing a big name like De Ligt I don't see us doing anything about it.

Look at the way we attack. There isn't a single player that will take the ball and move forward with it (Even Ronaldo is way past his prime to be that guy), it's side passing after side passing and then when we can't find a way to penetrate we try to cross only to fail miserably because the players we have aren't even good at it. So really you have weak spots everywhere because of the lack of quality and then injuries...

We have been gambling on injury-prone rejects or just overall underperforming players for many years now and while we made it work in Italy (Almost didn't this season), the two CL finals showed what different class those teams were in compared to us. Add that to just a total disregard for fixing this midfield, no proven player to lead it and expecting a bunch of average joes to just consistently be world class. Maybe Klopp can make the average footballer play at 120% but Sarri isn't Klopp. He can't coach nor motivate like that guy can.

Poch is also a gamble. He had some quality players at Tottenham so I don't buy it that it was all him getting them to the final. He strikes me as a great motivator though and that sometimes is enough if you have the quality at your disposal.

I don't want Sarri to stay but if he's staying this squad simply won't cut it without some serious upgrades. Too much credit/blame is put on coaches. If you can't build a system/motivate like Klopp can then you need the players to do all the work for you.
 

Hust

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May 29, 2005
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The way I see it it comes down to quality over his stubborn tactics. If we have the quality individuals up front that can change games it will compensate for our defense being so toothless and him being unable to tactically adapt to different situations. Kinda like Pep's Barcelona. They kept the ball up higher on the pitch so the defense wasn't being tested as much. But in order to do that you need talented individuals and I mean TALENTED individuals. Sarri isn't gonna fix the defense issue (He can't fix how bad our fullbacks are except Cuadrado) and after bringing a big name like De Ligt I don't see us doing anything about it.

Look at the way we attack. There isn't a single player that will take the ball and move forward with it (Even Ronaldo is way past his prime to be that guy), it's side passing after side passing and then when we can't find a way to penetrate we try to cross only to fail miserably because the players we have aren't even good at it. So really you have weak spots everywhere because of the lack of quality and then injuries...

We have been gambling on injury-prone rejects or just overall underperforming players for many years now and while we made it work in Italy (Almost didn't this season), the two CL finals showed what different class those teams were in compared to us. Add that to just a total disregard for fixing this midfield, no proven player to lead it and expecting a bunch of average joes to just consistently be world class. Maybe Klopp can make the average footballer play at 120% but Sarri isn't Klopp. He can't coach nor motivate like that guy can.

Poch is also a gamble. He had some quality players at Tottenham so I don't buy it that it was all him getting them to the final. He strikes me as a great motivator though and that sometimes is enough if you have the quality at your disposal.

I don't want Sarri to stay but if he's staying this squad simply won't cut it without some serious upgrades. Too much credit/blame is put on coaches. If you can't build a system/motivate like Klopp can then you need the players to do all the work for you.
Yeah I've noticed that for sometime, even under Allegri we really lost all ability to move the ball forward quickly when our midfield was dismantled. A weak midfield leads to a weak attack because the attack are left to fend and figure stuff out for themselves. It's disturbing.

Per your last sentence on motivating. I said this a couple days or but our team lacks motivation. You see it everywhere on the pitch and players that used to perform don't really seem to care anymore and that's a huge issue. These players lost their hunger to dominate. I'm hoping these younger players coming in have the chip on their shoulder that whispers in their ear that they bust their asses to bench the rooted players already established here. That's the only way, IMO, as a team we begin to strive for that pure dominance we used to have.

With Kulu & Arthur, I hope they have the right mentality. If we manage to sign Zaniolo too, even better because we need that youth injection into the lineup.
 

Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
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It doesn't matter. If he loses to Lyon, he must be terminated, no ifs and buts. Losing to a mediocre mid-table French team that has played close to ZERO competitive games since March would be below all expectations. Winning the Scudetto is not enough anymore, and a 2nd round exit in Europe is embarrassing. Also, Tootsie is in no position to issue statements - he might not even be here in twelve months (one can only hope).
 

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Sep 4, 2006
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Cant believe I am saying this, but unless it is a world class coach (Klopp, ZZ, Pep) or a safe bet (Max), I wont sack Sarri. There is little time to get used ro new tactics, the new seasons starts in a month ffs. Getting Poch, De Zebri, S. Inzaghi or someone similar doesnt seem to be an upgrate over Sarri to me. Maybe it is, but as I said, the season starts in a month, i think we will stick with Sarri.

A lot of clubs will stick to their coaches I think, maybe only Barca wont. Even Inter will stick with Conte at the end.
Keeping Sarri because we are scared of the transition is only prolonging dealing with the rot. Transition could be complicated sure, but continuing down this road is just the wrong decision.

Better to do it now then put it off
 

Bianconero81

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Jan 26, 2009
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Keeping Sarri because we are scared of the transition is only prolonging dealing with the rot. Transition could be complicated sure, but continuing down this road is just the wrong decision.

Better to do it now then put it off
Exactly. Hiring Sorri was a mistake, like when a high school chicks bangs her bf, the condom breaks, and she gets pregnant. Now, she can prolong that mistake by deciding to keep the baby, or decide to do the right thing and get that abortion.
 

Boksic

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May 11, 2005
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Keeping Sarri because we are scared of the transition is only prolonging dealing with the rot. Transition could be complicated sure, but continuing down this road is just the wrong decision.

Better to do it now then put it off
:agree:

This is the key point. Why go down a road we know isn't going to work?

Every appointment is a gamble. But I'd rather take another gamble that may or may not work than keep going on the path we are on.
 

rainhard

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May 5, 2004
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In his first season, Sarri brought in Elseid Hysaj, Pepe Reina, and Allan. The trio would go on to be first-team stalwarts for the following campaign, as Napoli finished runners-up to Juventus. Sarri extended his stay at the club until 2020 on 27 May 2016. Two months later Juventus would manage to sign Gonzalo Higuaín from Napoli for €90 million in the summer, who had managed to equal the record for most goals scored in a singular Serie A season, with 36.

However, Sarri vetoed the possibility of spending the money on a like-for-like replacement, instead, spending sparingly on weaker positions in the side to improve on depth, while tinkering with his squad to compensate for the loss of Higuaín. This was achieved through the positional change of Dries Mertens, originally a wide-forward, who was played more centrally the following season.This worked to great effect, as the Belgian netted 28 goals as the club finished 3rd in 2017, while Sarri was voted the league's coach of the year, and received the Enzo Bearzot Award.

If his system work, he can do thinks like that, turning Dries Mertens becoming prolific striker
And that time what our management does? We sold Pogba, our key player in midfield and bought Higuain that excel with his system
and until now we are begging for team to take Higuain from us with no result

I wonder if Allegri can make player like Mertens scoring 28 goals, but for an undeniable facts Allegri can make world class player like Dybala only have 5 goals and 2 assist in a whole serie A season.
 

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