Maurizio Sarri (59 Viewers)

[campionesidd]

That was the game that made me believe. I was so nervous, convinced we would lose beforehand.

The Monaco games were absolutely nerve wracking too.
I had to stop watching in the second leg.
But what a CL run that was, wish it had ended better.

 

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[Post Ironic]

I just finished reading the posts in Allegri's thread from February 15, 2015 (same day as today, in his first season).
It's like reading this thread

Check for yourself: https://www.juventuz.com/threads/massimiliano-allegri.40977/page-304

Badass

 

[Cerval]

The Monaco games were absolutely nerve wracking too.
I had to stop watching in the second leg.
But what a CL run that was, wish it had ended better.

Agreed. The Juve Madrid home game was awesome. But the away game at the Bernabeu was cardiac arrest inducing. I didn't think we'd score

 

[X Æ A-12]

Jokes aside, people were attached to Conte and we didn't play very well under Max at the beginning. We weren't as dull as in 2019/20, but we were boring. Many didn't like Allegri. Before that return leg against Dortmund in Germany, we weren't doing any better than we are right now. In serie A we had 54 pts after 23 rounds (same as today). In CL we barely made it through the group, we lost Super Coppa to Napoli and in Coppa Italia semis we lost the first leg at home to Fiorentina.
Then we destroyed Dortmund and we all started loving Allegri.

I don't expect that with Sarri, but I really really hope it will happen.

I get your point but I think this situation is different because Sarri is such a dislikable person (with an anti Juve history) so he gets no room for mistakes/ sympathy. Even the infamous Gol Di Muntari doesn't compare.

Also, expectations now are significantly higher the club has freakin Ronaldo and a CL or bust mentality. Things that seemed so far away in 2015.

So to sum up, I think Sarri is much less likely to win over Tuz in the way that Allegri did.

 

[Post Ironic]

Jokes aside, people were attached to Conte and we didn't play very well under Max at the beginning. We weren't as dull as in 2019/20, but we were boring. Many didn't like Allegri. Before that return leg against Dortmund in Germany, we weren't doing any better than we are right now. In serie A we had 54 pts after 23 rounds (same as today). In CL we barely made it through the group and in Coppa Italia semis we lost the first leg at home to Fiorentina.
Then we destroyed Dortmund and we all started loving Allegri.

I don't expect that with Sarri, but I really really hope it will happen.

We played 3-5-2 under Max for the first few months, keeping things comfortable for the team, before he made the switch to 4-3-1-2 and the rest is history. I remember him saying at one point that this team was afraid and overly anxious about facing the Malmö and Copenhagen type teams in CL when he arrived, and just needing to be calmer and more self-assured of the their quality.

Those 54 points came in much more dominant fashion too. We had outscored our opponents 49-12 after match day 23. As opposed to 44-23 this year. CL group stage was a mess, but that was kind of to be expected, and we did have that insane Atlético to contend with that year.

 

[Alen]

Also, expectations now are significantly higher the club has freakin Ronaldo and a CL or bust mentality. Things that seemed so far away in 2015.

This is true. After making two CL finals since then and after we bought Ronaldo, expectations are much higher.
I do think, though, that our 2014/15 team (at least the starting XI) was better than what we have today. Not player for player (even though I think the 14/15 team wins there too) but the team as a whole was better.
Our starting line up was: Buffon; Lichtsteiner, Bonucci, Chiellini, Evra; Marchisio, Pirlo, Vidal, Pogba; Tevez, Morata.

 

[X Æ A-12]

This is true. After making two CL finals since then and after we bought Ronaldo, expectations are much higher.
I do think, though, that our 2014/15 team (at least the starting XI) was better than what we have today. Not player for player (even though I think the 14/15 team wins there too) but the team as a whole was better.
Our starting line up was: Buffon; Lichtsteiner, Bonucci, Chiellini, Evra; Marchisio, Pirlo, Vidal, Pogba; Tevez, Morata.

I agree but almost entirely because that midfield is so superior to the current one.

 

[lgorTudor]

He is better than Conte and I don't see a reason to even consider dumping him.

https://www.juventuz.com/threads/massimiliano-allegri.40977/page-304#post-4820382

Looks like Lgor was right YET AGAIN

How will anti-Lgor brainlets ever recover?

 

[Post Ironic]

I agree but almost entirely because that midfield is so superior to the current one.

The midfield, Tevez, and the coach would make that team destroy this one.

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https://www.juventuz.com/threads/massimiliano-allegri.40977/page-304#post-4820382

Looks like Lgor was right YET AGAIN

How will anti-Lgor brainlets ever recover?

Stop being so gay. Gestapo frowns upon toilet traitors.

 

[Vlad]

https://www.juventuz.com/threads/massimiliano-allegri.40977/page-304#post-4820382

Looks like Lgor was right YET AGAIN

How will anti-Lgor brainlets ever recover?

I miss @Zacheryah Permabanned?

 

[Alen]

I agree but almost entirely because that midfield is so superior to the current one.

Yup. It was a midfield that controlled the center, helped the defense and was highly involved in attack. It also helped that our fullbacks were excellent defenders.

 

[lgorTudor]

I miss @Zacheryah Permabanned?

maybe a mod can shed light on this @Cerval

 

[DS8_Montero]

Our starting line up was: Buffon; Lichtsteiner, Bonucci, Chiellini, Evra; Marchisio, Pirlo, Vidal, Pogba; Tevez, Morata.

Only Ronaldo would have made the list out of all the current Juventus players. Which is sad.

 

[Post Ironic]

Only Ronaldo would have made the list out of all the current Juventus players. Which is sad.

Sandro of 16-18 would have too, but not the Sandro we’ve seen the last two seasons. His decline has been so disappointing.

Damn, it would have been amazing having a Ronaldo-Tevez from pairing with that midfield and Defense. We would have won three straight trebles.

 

[Strickland]

Only Ronaldo would have made the list out of all the current Juventus players. Which is sad.

Besides the obvious Ronaldo-Morata swap, Id say Alex Sandro and Pjanič are debatable (personally Id pick Evra and Pirlo), but for the rest theres hardly even a case to build.

Crazy how our 2015 team with half the wage budget is so much more complete than 2020 version.

Edit: the difference in wage bill is even more dramatic than a 100% increase, apparently we went from 118-122 (different sources) in 2014-15 to 294 in 2019-20. Thats fucked up

 

[Post Ironic]

Besides the obvious Ronaldo-Morata swap, Id say Alex Sandro and Pjanič are debatable (personally Id pick Evra and Pirlo), but for the rest theres hardly even a case to build.

Crazy how our 2015 team with half the wage budget is so much more complete than 2020 version.

I’m a Pjanic fan, but even 16-17 Pjanic doesn’t make that side over Pirlo. While Pirlo had some weaknesses at that point in his career he still had so many strengths and was fantastic for us. Imagine Pirlo picking out Ronaldo with long balls and set pieces. and a secondary benefit is that he was a player with the standing and authority to take our free kicks and not allow Ronaldo to waste them all.

Sandro of 16-17 and part of 17-18 makes that side over Evra imo. But since then, nah. He’s mostly been gash.

 

[IlCapitano]

I’m a Pjanic fan, but even 16-17 Pjanic doesn’t make that side over Pirlo. While Pirlo had some weaknesses at that point in his career he still had so many strengths and was fantastic for us. Imagine Pirlo picking out Ronaldo with long balls and set pieces. and a secondary benefit is that he was a player with the standing and authority to take our free kicks and not allow Ronaldo to waste them all.

Sandro of 16-17 and part of 17-18 makes that side over Evra imo. But since then, nah. He’s mostly been gash.

We must've watched a different season then. That was by far Pirlo's worst for us and we played best football when he was injured and Marchisio played in his place. He wasn't that good offensively anymore and a traffic cone on defense. 16/17 Pjanić was our best player in CL, he was amazing.

 

[.zero]

Jokes aside, people were attached to Conte and we didn't play very well under Max at the beginning. We weren't as dull as in 2019/20, but we were boring. Many didn't like Allegri. Before that return leg against Dortmund in Germany, we weren't doing any better than we are right now. In serie A we had 54 pts after 23 rounds (same as today). In CL we barely made it through the group, we lost Super Coppa to Napoli and in Coppa Italia semis we lost the first leg at home to Fiorentina.
Then we destroyed Dortmund and we all started loving Allegri.

I don't expect that with Sarri, but I really really hope it will happen.

Do you believe in a higher celestial power?

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I’m a Pjanic fan, but even 16-17 Pjanic doesn’t make that side over Pirlo. While Pirlo had some weaknesses at that point in his career he still had so many strengths and was fantastic for us. Imagine Pirlo picking out Ronaldo with long balls and set pieces. and a secondary benefit is that he was a player with the standing and authority to take our free kicks and not allow Ronaldo to waste them all.

Sandro of 16-17 and part of 17-18 makes that side over Evra imo. But since then, nah. He’s mostly been gash.

Roster personnel parity is a fun exercise

 

[Signora Omicidi]

He has to get his shit together. Juve isn't Napoli, you don't have much time to prove yourself here.

 

[Post Ironic]

We must've watched a different season then. That was by far Pirlo's worst for us and we played best football when he was injured and Marchisio played in his place. He wasn't that good offensively anymore and a traffic cone on defense. 16/17 Pjanić was our best player in CL, he was amazing.

Pjanic was incredible, in our two man defence. He was a top 5 CM in football that year. But for whatever reason, any time we’ve played a 3 man mid with him, he ghosts and plays terrible.

Pirlo was nowhere near as bad as you are saying. And nah. We didn’t play our best without him. That’s rubbish. He played both games against Real Madrid, and was fantastic.

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Do you believe in a higher celestial power?

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Roster personnel parity is a fun exercise

it’s definitely a funny exercise

I prefer a lower celestial power