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Vlad

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May 23, 2011
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Pjanic was incredible, in our two man defence. He was a top 5 CM in football that year. But for whatever reason, any time we’ve played a 3 man mid with him, he ghosts and plays terrible.

Pirlo was nowhere near as bad as you are saying. And nah. We didn’t play our best without him. That’s rubbish. He played both games against Real Madrid, and was fantastic.

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it’s definitely a funny exercise
Pirlo was pretty bad in his final season, especially as the season was nearing to an end. Check some of the comments from that period. Also Allegri made a mistake starting him in the final.
 

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IlCapitano

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Dec 16, 2012
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Pirlo was pretty bad in his final season, especially as the season was nearing to an end. Check some of the comments from that period. Also Allegri made a mistake starting him in the final.
If there wasn't that whole history from Milan between them I think he would've benched him for good after Marchisio bossed it in his absence. That plus we didn't have anyone with a big reputation to replace him with. Pereyra wasn't getting it done. Enrique did the same with Xavi and he was coming in to close the game and calm everything down.

My biggest what if about that season is what if Conte quit in that May meeting and not at the start of preseason. De Bruyne went to Wolfsburg in that period for lousy 20m. And after Allegri came we were looking for an AMC. Next summer during the Draxler saga De Bruyne was mentioned again but by then he was too expensive and EPL bound. Just imagine MVP-KDB that year :andyandbarcelona:
 

.zero

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If there wasn't that whole history from Milan between them I think he would've benched him for good after Marchisio bossed it in his absence. That plus we didn't have anyone with a big reputation to replace him with. Pereyra wasn't getting it done. Enrique did the same with Xavi and he was coming in to close the game and calm everything down.

My biggest what if about that season is what if Conte quit in that May meeting and not at the start of preseason. De Bruyne went to Wolfsburg in that period for lousy 20m. And after Allegri came we were looking for an AMC. Next summer during the Draxler saga De Bruyne was mentioned again but by then he was too expensive and EPL bound. Just imagine MVP-KDB that year :andyandbarcelona:
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Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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Pirlo was pretty bad in his final season, especially as the season was nearing to an end. Check some of the comments from that period. Also Allegri made a mistake starting him in the final.
Nah. I didn’t think he was bad at all. Nor did my comments at the time. I wanted him to even stay another year as a rotation piece. I know you did think he was bad, I remember it well. The forum was pretty split on him. He had some poor games and some very good games. Wasn’t so consistent anymore. But he played two very good games against Madrid for us.
 

Vlad

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May 23, 2011
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If there wasn't that whole history from Milan between them I think he would've benched him for good after Marchisio bossed it in his absence. That plus we didn't have anyone with a big reputation to replace him with. Pereyra wasn't getting it done. Enrique did the same with Xavi and he was coming in to close the game and calm everything down.

My biggest what if about that season is what if Conte quit in that May meeting and not at the start of preseason. De Bruyne went to Wolfsburg in that period for lousy 20m. And after Allegri came we were looking for an AMC. Next summer during the Draxler saga De Bruyne was mentioned again but by then he was too expensive and EPL bound. Just imagine MVP-KDB that year :andyandbarcelona:
Yeah it looked like Max was overcompensating. He didnt want to be 'that guy', someone who benched Pirlo again. But we definitely played much better in his absence. At first glance Conte screwed us pretty bad, but I think management knew there is a big chance he would leave so Allegri was on a standby.
 

Post Ironic

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Yeah it looked like Max was overcompensating. He didnt want to be 'that guy', someone who benched Pirlo again. But we definitely played much better in his absence. At first glance Conte screwed us pretty bad, but I think management knew there is a big chance he would leave so Allegri was on a standby.
We definitely didn’t. He played in the vast majority of our big matches that we won that year. The one main one people bring up is Dortmund 3-0. But that Dortmund team was awful and had been in the relegation zone a couple weeks before we played them.

Not sure where this myth about playing much better without him comes from lol.
 

Cerval

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We definitely didn’t. He played in the vast majority of our big matches that we won that year. The one main one people bring up is Dortmund 3-0. But that Dortmund team was awful and had been in the relegation zone a couple weeks before we played them.

Not sure where this myth about playing much better without him comes from lol.
He had games where he'd cause giveaways and that was scary. From what I remember this was the only season he didn't inspire confidence
 

Post Ironic

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He played in both matches against Madrid, the win over Monaco, the Coppa Italia final win, both wins over Napoli in the league, the win over Fiorentina in the league, both wins over Lazio, the win over Roma. He missed 2 of our 3 losses in the league, and our loss in Coppa, and 1 of our 2 CL group stage losses.

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He had games where he'd cause giveaways and that was scary. From what I remember this was the only season he didn't inspire confidence
He didn’t inspire as much confidence as previous years, and wasn’t as good, but he was still a major part of us cruising to a domestic double and a CL final. And our record that year with him on the pitch speaks for itself.
 

Vlad

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May 23, 2011
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We definitely didn’t. He played in the vast majority of our big matches that we won that year. The one main one people bring up is Dortmund 3-0. But that Dortmund team was awful and had been in the relegation zone a couple weeks before we played them.

Not sure where this myth about playing much better without him comes from lol.
During the initial few months of Allegri's tenure we looked very shaky at the back and looked flat in the middle, barely made it out of groups. Pirlo was lamented everywhere, media & fans because he genuinely looked done. Maybe my memory is off but Pirlo got injured sometime at October/November and he was expected to be out for few months. Marchisio took his spot and we looked far better side.
 

Post Ironic

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Anyways, no sense dredging you the Pirlo 14-15 debate. Fair enough if you didn’t rate his season. I did, and thought he was still very good.

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During the initial few months of Allegri's tenure we looked very shaky at the back and looked flat in the middle, barely made it out of groups. Pirlo was lamented everywhere, media & fans because he genuinely looked done. Maybe my memory is off but Pirlo got injured sometime at October/November and he was expected to be out for few months. Marchisio took his spot and we looked far better side.
Your memory is way off or you didn’t watch. He missed the first month of the season lol including the game we got dominated by Atletico. He came back for the loss to Olympiacos, and then was a big part of our turning around our CL group stage for qualification. We didn’t lose a single game with him in the side after Olympiacos until the end of April away at Torino after scudetto was wrapped up before the CL semifinal matches. He was injured for a month in March too which coincided with losses to Viola and Parma and the draw with Roma. But we played the excellent Viola second leg and the excellent Dortmund second leg in that time too.

Anyways, agree to disagree :tup:
 
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lgorTudor

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Jan 15, 2015
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I just finished reading the posts in Allegri's thread from February 15, 2015 (same day as today, in his first season).
It's like reading this thread :lol2:

Check for yourself: https://www.juventuz.com/threads/massimiliano-allegri.40977/page-304
Just always stick to the side that Lgor is on, with this mechanism you will never be wrong

Max = GOOD
Dybala = GOOD
Mandzukic = GOOD
Sarri = SHIT
Costa = SHIT
Poop = SHIT
S. Inzaghi = GOOD
Lukaku = SHIT
Pogba = GOOD

...and so on.
 

Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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Checking in on this

how much of the forum do you think he's been able to convince?

rough estimate please
To convince or change their minds?!
I guess some of the 20% changed theirs.. I wasnt optimistic for him but I wanted to give him the benefit of a doubt..
 

Wittl

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Feb 21, 2017
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Just always stick to the side that Lgor is on, with this mechanism you will never be wrong

Max = GOOD
Dybala = GOOD
Mandzukic = GOOD
Sarri = SHIT
Costa = SHIT
Poop = SHIT
S. Inzaghi = GOOD
Lukaku = SHIT
Pogba = GOOD

...and so on.
What your thoughts about Marotta and Paratici?
 

Post Ironic

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Feb 9, 2013
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I see we are telling more outright lies now.

Pirlo was out injured for the 1-0 loss against Atletico and Marchisio played the full 90.

In the 1-0 loss at Olympiacos, Pirlo played the first 55 minutes, Marchisio was subbed on for him for the rest.

In the 3-2 comeback win against Olympiacos after which we didn’t lose again in CL until the final, both Marchisio and Pirlo played, with Pogba.

Both Marchisio and Pirlo were great for us that year and essential for our CL final run.

But don’t let facts stand in the way of making shit up and telling a good tall tale. :baus:
 

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