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juve123

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2017
16,652
Allegri needs some transfer windows before judging him.

The clue here is signing players who the coach agrees suit his system.

Bringing in random bums for the sake of it without consoling the coach or having a clear role dragged us to this point, not Allegri. I see Tici and his friend Levy have continued down that path at Spurs with the same results.
This is the least the management can do after the Ronaldo fiasco but we do need some signing in January itself to actually reach top 4
 

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pavluska

Senior Member
Apr 25, 2013
7,339
After making complete burros out of themselves, I see few of the experds are still experding, roflcopter


Last time we were in ritiro was in 15-16. When was the time before that?


Only thing left to find out this season is if we'll beat a Ajax/Lyon/Porto this time. And when he'll figure out a CM at LM in Rabiot with a slow FB in AS behind him is a terribad idea even at amateur level, something that sacrifices the whole left side in attack, which in turn, also makes the right and middle more predictable.
 

JuveE46

Senior Member
Dec 6, 2015
1,595
Man wtf are you all on about talking about him needing transfer windows.. first things first we lost to fucking Verona we got players standing around jacking off instead of running at the ball the fuck does that have to do with club mismanagement of 5 years.
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
Administrator
May 27, 2007
89,023
Allegri needs some transfer windows before judging him.

The clue here is signing players who the coach agrees suit his system.

Bringing in random bums for the sake of it without consoling the coach or having a clear role dragged us to this point, not Allegri. I see Tici and his friend Levy have continued down that path at Spurs with the same results.
Yeah. But imagine signing players he likes and it turns out to be a horrible plan and bad coaching, so you fire him. You're stuck with random players and no coach.

I'd rather sign versatile players that would be used by all coaches.
 

K.O.

Senior Member
Nov 24, 2005
13,883
Man wtf are you all on about talking about him needing transfer windows.. first things first we lost to fucking Verona we got players standing around jacking off instead of running at the ball the fuck does that have to do with club mismanagement of 5 years.
Because these players jacking off instead of running are big part of the 5 years of mismanagement.
 

Dostoevsky

Tzu
Administrator
May 27, 2007
89,023
Man wtf are you all on about talking about him needing transfer windows.. first things first we lost to fucking Verona we got players standing around jacking off instead of running at the ball the fuck does that have to do with club mismanagement of 5 years.
Exactly. This has nothing to do with transfer windows.

Our squad is worth dozens of millions and our wages are incredibly high. Saying we're not good enough for Empoli and Verona is just plain stupid and silly.
 

pavluska

Senior Member
Apr 25, 2013
7,339
Man wtf are you all on about talking about him needing transfer windows.. first things first we lost to fucking Verona we got players standing around jacking off instead of running at the ball the fuck does that have to do with club mismanagement of 5 years.
Didn't you hear, apparently our whole squad isn't even on the level of Verona, Sassuolo, Empoli, Udinese (oh wait that was just Tek's fault).
 

JuveE46

Senior Member
Dec 6, 2015
1,595
Because these players jacking off instead of running are big part of the 5 years of mismanagement.
Like who? Who do we have that fits that description and how do you attribute it to mismanagement causing it?
You mean players at professional level who should already know how to run and press need to be chosen out especially by the board of directors or maybe players such as Sandro and rabiot and Loca should know to challenge the ball when calhanoglu is about to take a fucking open shot at goal? We are not organized the fuck does that have to do with 5 years mismanagement of an entire club
 

Cerval

Senior Member
Feb 20, 2016
26,829
Because these players jacking off instead of running are big part of the 5 years of mismanagement.
They get a free pass because for all their talents they are overpaid lazy and mentally weak. Shows up to get paid and appear on social media. And they know they'll have zero accountability because a few people will scream at the top of their lungs "BEST SQUAD IN ITALY" while watching this shitfest.
 

JuelzSantana

Junior Member
Sep 28, 2017
416
We’ve had 3 coaches last 3 seasons. At some point you have to commit to a guy and give him what he wants. Ain’t no other top manager coming here.

We’re top of our CL group and 4p behind a CL place. I already said in the summer this squad was nowhere near scudetto contention. People being delusional and just figuring that out now is on them.

If this run continues with his signings you can then put him in the Mourinho bracket as finished and stuck in the past. Until then just ride this season out and have some patience as much as it hurts.
 
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pavluska

Senior Member
Apr 25, 2013
7,339
Saying he shouldn't be fired already (too soon and should be given whole season like other coaches, make the decision to continue with or not later imo) and saying 0 blame can be apportioned to him right now, that it's all the fault of players and mgmt and only them are two very diff things.

One is wrong (but there can be opinions) and the other is downright retarded.
 

JuveJay

Senior Signor
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
74,983
Our squad is not good and I agree with that. But the way we played when Conte arrived was brilliant and something we should strive for. Conte had a team with plenty of mediocrity and played way better. Not only he had a bad squad but years before his arrival we looked like absolute shit. The change of mentality was INSTANT and our players bad balls, ran their lungs out. You may like Conte or not, face it, when he arrived here we started playing amazing. With Allegri we're getting 5% of that. It's disappointing. Hell, I even wanted Allegri here but this stuff is horrible so far.
We could bring Conte back but you know it will only ever be a short term thing with him. Plus we don't have money now so he'd never put up with the squad like Allegri does.
 

Mokku

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2019
2,723
Remove emotion and analyse the problem properly.
- We had a crap start to the season, the excuse could be that the manager had to experiment and players had to adjust
- We go on a short run of wins with a couple of clean sheets around the time we beat Chelsea
- For some reason, we cannot play to that level again and lose back to back
- Allegri had a formula that let us win some games, we showed great desire in the Chelsea game but we haven't seen anything since
- We were able to beat Roma and draw against Inter, we showed heart in those games
- Lost to Sassuolo and Verona maybe because of players more than tactics, it's hard to blame tactics 100% when the players let us down more than anything
- The expectation is for Allegri to revolutionise the formation and starting 11, then get an immediate results but this won't happen until the players start playing to their level
- We had an uninspiring but winning formula earlier and we can at least reach that level again
- This squad has major issues in all departments with Szczesny, Sandro, McKennie, Rabiot, Arthur, Bentancur, Bernardschi, Kulusevski, Morata all playing really poorly - you cannot overlook this and one Tchouameni isn't going to fix it
 

LiquidPLP

Senior Member
Jun 9, 2012
12,237
Remove emotion and analyse the problem properly.
- We had a crap start to the season, the excuse could be that the manager had to experiment and players had to adjust
- We go on a short run of wins with a couple of clean sheets around the time we beat Chelsea
- For some reason, we cannot play to that level again and lose back to back
- Allegri had a formula that let us win some games, we showed great desire in the Chelsea game but we haven't seen anything since
- We were able to beat Roma and draw against Inter, we showed heart in those games
- Lost to Sassuolo and Verona maybe because of players more than tactics, it's hard to blame tactics 100% when the players let us down more than anything
- The expectation is for Allegri to revolutionise the formation and starting 11, then get an immediate results but this won't happen until the players start playing to their level
- We had an uninspiring but winning formula earlier and we can at least reach that level again
- This squad has major issues in all departments with Szczesny, Sandro, McKennie, Rabiot, Arthur, Bentancur, Bernardschi, Kulusevski, Morata all playing really poorly - you cannot overlook this and one Tchouameni isn't going to fix it
Are we doomed then? Disband the club? What do?

Some Italian journalist noticed today that this squad has 16 internationals being called up by 11 different nations. No the squad is not shit. It's unbalanced yes, but it should be enough to beat the likes of Empoli and Sassuolo at home. Even Udinese or Verona away but the last one is always a banana skin so I wouldn't lose too much sleep over that one as long as we got the shit done in the other games.

You have to blame the coach for the current situation, we're really bad and seems like nothing works. From heads throughout team selection to formation and tactics.

I have a feeling we need a simpler setup, something classic and first and foremost work on the heads of the players, confidence is shot at the moment. No fighting spirit could be coming from lack of belief or scare, not just due to 'laziness'.
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,185
guys it's not his fault. of course we gonna lose when we with 10 men every match. ronaldo doesn't press or do defensive work so formation has to be imbalanced.
 

Cerval

Senior Member
Feb 20, 2016
26,829
Some Italian journalist noticed today that this squad has 16 internationals being called up by 11 different nations.
Name these players, and we'll see the caliber of most of them.

You have to blame the coach for the current situation, we're really bad and seems like nothing works. From heads throughout team selection to formation and tactics.
Allegri did make mistakes with squad selection and a few times at that and I've said that often, but we still should have done better despite that. During our run of form with 1-0s we regained some defensive stability since the whole team was limiting space to the opponent. There is no better tactics at the moment to mask the shortcomings of this team. We were playing more solid than the open game we had with Pirlo last season.
 

Salvo

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Moderator
Dec 17, 2007
62,842
It's going to be a tough battle for that 4th spot, we are nearly cut out of 3rd as well. Lucky it's only 4 to 4th. We need to get our shit together quick.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
Man wtf are you all on about talking about him needing transfer windows.. first things first we lost to fucking Verona we got players standing around jacking off instead of running at the ball the fuck does that have to do with club mismanagement of 5 years.
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Everything. Doesn’t absolve Allegri for some very poor decisions this season on line-ups, subs, and tactics thus far… but mismanagement is 100% the reason we have so many overpaid, useless shit, couldn’t be bothered to put in effort and run at the ball players in our squad. Guys like Arthur, Bentancur, Rabiot should never see the pitch again at this club. But then we don’t have a midfield.
 

JuveE46

Senior Member
Dec 6, 2015
1,595
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Everything. Doesn’t absolve Allegri for some very poor decisions this season on line-ups, subs, and tactics thus far… but mismanagement is 100% the reason we have so many overpaid, useless shit, couldn’t be bothered to put in effort and run at the ball players in our squad. Guys like Arthur, Bentancur, Rabiot should never see the pitch again at this club. But then we don’t have a midfield.
Absolutely I agree. of course things like signing of overpaid rabiot was mismanagement no question. You can say that rabiot is average, but is on a WC players wages. You can say for a club like this, bentancur is at best a bench player. However you can't say that rabiot and bentancur not pressing how they should or not understanding each other's position or being clueless on the field and us losing to Verona is because rabiot is overpaid or bent is not good enough to take the field against Verona.
Yes we have useless shit in the squad and that's a just but separate argument toward mismanagement and a catalyst for why we didn't win a CL in all that time but not the culprit to why we can't beat empoli.
 

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