Massimiliano Allegri (300 Viewers)
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You say that sacking Sarri was not short-term thinking, but sacking Allegri was. To me thats the same. And obviously we also agree that keeping sacking coaches after 1 year is not necessarily good. But have we really tried something different from Allegri, that was not deemed to fail beforehand ? If Sarri was sacked only because of being a cultural misfit, he should never have been hired first place then, what a surprise. Pirlo is not a coach. And then we gave up and hired the same guy again.
To me thats a piss poor attempt at trying something new to better the team. Look outside of Italy ffs, just for once! There were lots of coaches available during the last 2-3 years. Even a coach like Mourinho would bring some new winds at our club and get everyone to try to prove themselves on the field.
But yeah, anyways. Lets see what happens and how this season pans out.
To me thats a piss poor attempt at trying something new to better the team. Look outside of Italy ffs, just for once! There were lots of coaches available during the last 2-3 years. Even a coach like Mourinho would bring some new winds at our club and get everyone to try to prove themselves on the field.
But yeah, anyways. Lets see what happens and how this season pans out.
I think we’re agreeing here, it was all short term and poor management by the directors. Sacking instead of backing Allegri, trying to create a new project and then never truly committing to it, then trying to create a new Guardiola and turning Pirlo into a scapegoat then to reappoint the manager we kicked out in the first place and committing to him (something we just should have done 3 years ago when he still had a handle on the squad)
There’s just so much wrong with this club at the moment and it’s a lot deeper than the manager. This is just ground zero, we need to make the CL and as far as I’m concerned it’s a forgotten season while we try to fix the squad and it’s mentality. Hopefully sticking to whatever plan we have put in place to get there
There’s just so much wrong with this club at the moment and it’s a lot deeper than the manager. This is just ground zero, we need to make the CL and as far as I’m concerned it’s a forgotten season while we try to fix the squad and it’s mentality. Hopefully sticking to whatever plan we have put in place to get there
Some god damn good points in here from both sides of the argument.
I don't think it's one particular problem, I think he is trying to do too much at the moment. Kind of like trying to teach literature to individuals who dont speak the same language yet, and this is reflected clearly both in the way we concede goals and the amount we have conceded.
Need to go back to basics get it right from the back learn to work and move as a unit then move on to more complex ideas like the hybrid 442.
I think one of Max's faults is also that he had too much faith in his players.
I don't think it's one particular problem, I think he is trying to do too much at the moment. Kind of like trying to teach literature to individuals who dont speak the same language yet, and this is reflected clearly both in the way we concede goals and the amount we have conceded.
Need to go back to basics get it right from the back learn to work and move as a unit then move on to more complex ideas like the hybrid 442.
I think one of Max's faults is also that he had too much faith in his players.
Don't you agree that through the 5 years of his first stint this coach molded the team, brought his touch in the end, and we were still successful?
We don't act like a team since two thirds of the squad are mentally fragile and don't have work ethics. Change coach as many times as you want, it was apparent with all our previous coaches irrespective of the quality of the coach.
His team in his first stint had great players, its disingenuous to say he has the same material now.
We don't act like a team since two thirds of the squad are mentally fragile and don't have work ethics. Change coach as many times as you want, it was apparent with all our previous coaches irrespective of the quality of the coach.
His team in his first stint had great players, its disingenuous to say he has the same material now.
it means adani is an idiot and should never be asked about juventus
as brutto says, he hates allegri. he's one of the very, very few guys who allegri openly confronted before and diplomatically told him to fuck off. adani is like jäger but some people (mostly interisti though, he's a former inda player) actually listen to him.
as brutto says, he hates allegri. he's one of the very, very few guys who allegri openly confronted before and diplomatically told him to fuck off. adani is like jäger but some people (mostly interisti though, he's a former inda player) actually listen to him.
Seems to be trying different things hoping something sticks as there is no obvious strength with the squad he has.
How he ever thought a two of Bentancur and Arthur with Rabiot on the wing would ever work or fielding McKennie as a trequartista in one of the early games was just utterly mind boggling though. Perhaps he acquired rust and genuinely didn’t watch any of our shit show last season.
It’s sadly a long rebuild and it’s going to be painful.
How he ever thought a two of Bentancur and Arthur with Rabiot on the wing would ever work or fielding McKennie as a trequartista in one of the early games was just utterly mind boggling though. Perhaps he acquired rust and genuinely didn’t watch any of our shit show last season.
It’s sadly a long rebuild and it’s going to be painful.
Unless there's a proper signing or two in January, we won't make it into top4 IMO. People think we've hit rock bottom so it can't get any worse but the next fixtures we're playing Fiorentina and Lazio. Yes, it can get worse and no ritiro will fix that. If the coach can't squeeze anything from this squad and you don't want to sack him, you need to invest and get some new blood.
Allegri needs some transfer windows before judging him.
The clue here is signing players who the coach agrees suit his system.
Bringing in random bums for the sake of it without consoling the coach or having a clear role dragged us to this point, not Allegri. I see Tici and his friend Levy have continued down that path at Spurs with the same results.
The clue here is signing players who the coach agrees suit his system.
Bringing in random bums for the sake of it without consoling the coach or having a clear role dragged us to this point, not Allegri. I see Tici and his friend Levy have continued down that path at Spurs with the same results.