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Gian

COME HOME MOGGI
Apr 12, 2009
17,789
This is a back to basics-situation.

Not a tiem for experiments. Build a stronk and solid organisation making it extremely hard to score against us; create confidence thru a central core of players: Buffon, Chiellini, Pjanic, Marchisio, Mandzu, Miss Piggy. Give more freedom both mentally and tactically to "x-factor"-players. THis team will only succeed this season thru grinta; hard work, team spirit.

Oh and get Dybala going.
Couldnt agree more..
 

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DeviAngel

Senior Member
Oct 3, 2014
3,687
Bring back the 3-5-2 with Benatia, Rugani, Chiellini. Put Marchisio as a regista with Matuidi and Pjanic completing the 3 in midfield. Sandro and Cuadrado on the wings and Dybala and Higuain in attack. or try the 4-3-2-1


---Mautidi--Marchisio--Pjanic--
-Dybala--Berna-
-Higuain-



--Khedira--Bentan--Sturaro--
---Costa--Cuadrado--
-Mandzukic-
 

Monty

Tuz Royalty
May 2, 2017
2,592
I feel, to get the balance back we need a solid destroyer, cuz poor finishing aside we are racking up the goals. And yesterday 1st half we were also passing the ball around quicker.

A solid destoyer in the mould of casemiro, ngolo kante, fernandinho etc.
 

littlePrince

Senior Member
Nov 10, 2014
618
he will find a way to back us on top of league and eroupa, but what i see in this team is we didnt do anything for replace bonucci and alves! we brought players like D.costa and Bernardeschi but our 11 didnt improve. i hope max find a way but honestly we have an important game in middle weak against barca for qualify in CL, allegri must change formation for that match and sent dybala in bench.
 

Nedved96

Senior Member
Sep 1, 2017
7,198
Hierarchy is important. It's only natural that you have ups and downs as a human being. A coach cannot bench a player immediately after stepping a foot wrong because it has a bad psychological effect on a player
Late response, but this is exactly how I feel we are treating our new players right now. Costa and Berna are under a microscope every time they play, and whenever they do something wrong the immediate response is "they aren't ready" and bench them. Players that are higher up the hierarchy like Cuadrado and Mandzukic can have multiple consecutive poor games, but they keep being given chance after chance.

Minutes played:

Mandzukic - 1253
Cuadrado - 1072
Costa - 684
Berna - 345

Goal involvement (goals + assists):

Cuadrado - 8
Mandzukic - 8
Costa - 5
Berna - 4

Goal involvement per 90 minutes:

Berna - 1.04
Cuadrado - 0.67
Costa - 0.66
Mandzukic - 0.57

Costa and Berna deserve a run of games together, but Allegri won't give it to them because he is infuriatingly stubborn. He is afraid of change.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
Players that are higher up the hierarchy like Cuadrado and Mandzukic can have multiple consecutive poor games, but they keep being given chance after chance.

Costa and Berna deserve a run of games together, but Allegri won't give it to them because he is infuriatingly stubborn. He is afraid of change.
In short words, this is the behaviour im seeing. Mandz and cuads have free license to commit mistakes and play poorly, but allegri is stuck behind those 2.

Its unfair and frustrating.

Mandz novelty as a winger has alrady banished and i think he is not good enough for us already. We are wasting time using him as a winger and we need to use a real winger there, name it costa or pjaca

Cuadrado should not have a free pass starting place either.

I dont know whats going on with allegri tbh.
 

LordBendtner

Promising Lord
Jan 6, 2015
79
Agreed, Mandzu and Cuads have golden passes, however Mandzu is our mentally strongest player in CL games given his track record and should be mostly utilized in those games while giving more game time to Costa, Berna and Pjaca in the league.

I think we have all the possibilities to turn this around. A reminder and 3 reasons why we shouldn’t have melt down pre final run of the Scudetto and why we should start accepting defeats then and when: 1. I’m not saying THIS will happen, and I’m not trying to be Mr obvious but at least we can say it’s too early to forecast what’s going to happen the end of this season. Napoli will have shitty days as well.
2. We still got Pjaca coming back and Höwedes who could prove to be crucial in whatever defensive line we decide for once he’s back.
3. Us loosing or potentially even loosing the Scudetto this year, means that Italian soccer is getting stronger = Italy will attract top players . That’s the positive

It’s a shame though that Berna performing so far has been in games where we’ve lost or drew, the kid needs appraisel.
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,923
Difference is that our rivals are not being the usual chokers, they all seem to have peaked simultaneously.

But again, there is still time, however we do need to get our shit together NOW.
 

Bianconero81

Ageing Veteran
Jan 26, 2009
40,175
It'snot entirely his fault, but something's gotta change. He needs to stop being stubborn. All coaches have favorites and "guarantees" but when something clearly isn't working, you need to accept that you're wrong and instill change. I don't think Napoli, or even Inter, are going to drop too many points this season, so if we don't get our act together soon, by the time we do, it might well be too late.

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Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Late response, but this is exactly how I feel we are treating our new players right now. Costa and Berna are under a microscope every time they play, and whenever they do something wrong the immediate response is "they aren't ready" and bench them. Players that are higher up the hierarchy like Cuadrado and Mandzukic can have multiple consecutive poor games, but they keep being given chance after chance.

Minutes played:

Mandzukic - 1253
Cuadrado - 1072
Costa - 684
Berna - 345

Goal involvement (goals + assists):

Cuadrado - 8
Mandzukic - 8
Costa - 5
Berna - 4

Goal involvement per 90 minutes:

Berna - 1.04
Cuadrado - 0.67
Costa - 0.66
Mandzukic - 0.57

Costa and Berna deserve a run of games together, but Allegri won't give it to them because he is infuriatingly stubborn. He is afraid of change.
nb4 “stats don’t tell the whole story” argument

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I also think that allegris obsession with mandzukic is holding us back. He need to hit the bench from time to time.
:shocked:
 

The Quazis

Senior Member
Dec 21, 2012
5,570
Late response, but this is exactly how I feel we are treating our new players right now. Costa and Berna are under a microscope every time they play, and whenever they do something wrong the immediate response is "they aren't ready" and bench them. Players that are higher up the hierarchy like Cuadrado and Mandzukic can have multiple consecutive poor games, but they keep being given chance after chance.

Minutes played:

Mandzukic - 1253
Cuadrado - 1072
Costa - 684
Berna - 345

Goal involvement (goals + assists):

Cuadrado - 8
Mandzukic - 8
Costa - 5
Berna - 4

Goal involvement per 90 minutes:

Berna - 1.04
Cuadrado - 0.67
Costa - 0.66
Mandzukic - 0.57

Costa and Berna deserve a run of games together, but Allegri won't give it to them because he is infuriatingly stubborn. He is afraid of change.
It's easier to deliver with no pressure and against lesser opponents. Nevertheless, my patience for Cuadrado and Mandzukic is truly running out as well. I'm leaning towards your opinion that Berna and Costa should be getting more chances as we are losing against freaking Sampdoria with the Colombian and Croatian in the squad.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
People are too sentimental with players, they would rather continue in one direction even in the face of poor performances than try something different for a run of games to see if anything improves.
 

Sjaban

Senior Member
Dec 29, 2012
2,064
People are too sentimental with players, they would rather continue in one direction even in the face of poor performances than try something different for a run of games to see if anything improves.
This, would be more than willing to sacrifice some players if it means we get an overall better team stability and fluidity, rather than keeping key players in the starting XI knowing it doesn't match properly.
 

Alin

FINO ALLA FINE!
Jul 27, 2015
6,390
If there is one thing to criticize Allegri for is the fact it took him to this point to (hopefully) finally realise a change of formation is needed to really integrate everyone and be able to play at full strength.

The way i SEE it with the current squad at his disposal, he should totally give it a try in a 4-3-3 with a view of adding superiority in midfield or to make a even more drastic but necessary change and switch to 3 at the back in a 3-4-2-1 formation that would be ideal with Cuadrado as RWB and Sandro as LWB etc...

In the end tho,i personally still cant just blame Allegri for whats going on, the management and their mercatos must share at least the same amount of blame if not even more for failing to replace key players on key positions...
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
12,834
Mario and Cuadrado can only get benched if you play a 3 man midfield. We have no chance at being successful without them in a 4-2-3-1. We will concede even more.

And we can only play a 4-3-3 if Dybala is able to play some sort of RW. As a Ronaldo style inside forward, or even more of a right sided CAM.

But we haven't given Dybala a serious thought at RW since we brought him here so I don't know if that's even an option.
 

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