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Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
So, despite leaking more goals than ever with the same lineup/formation...the theory is now that we can’t make the 4231 work without cuadrado and Mario?

I think it’s that kind of thinking that was part of the reason Italy won’t be at the WC and we haven’t won the CL the last to finals we were in.

Gutless. Afraid of change.

No guts no glory.
 

juve123

Senior Member
Aug 10, 2017
16,651
So, despite leaking more goals than ever with the same lineup/formation...the theory is now that we can’t make the 4231 work without cuadrado and Mario?

I think it’s that kind of thinking that was part of the reason Italy won’t be at the WC and we haven’t won the CL the last to finals we were in.

Gutless. Afraid of change.

No guts no glory.
The 4-3-2-1 formation will be more suited to our team
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Licht responsible for 2 goals yesteday with the first shoing how much cuadrado adds to the defensive protection of our RB.

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That second goal by Dybala could give insight into what he might be able to do as RW.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
Licht responsible for 2 goals yesteday with the first shoing how much cuadrado adds to the defensive protection of our RB.

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That second goal by Dybala could give insight into what he might be able to do as RW.
We are pigeonlocked to cuadrado because of lichteiner and mds, practically. Still, we NEED to give a serious run of games to berna and see how that goes. Priority must be to sell licht and find a replacement.

About dybala as a RW, been saying this since long time. The thing is, he should not play as a strict Rw, but an inside forward with some touches of wingplay.

Costa or pjaca on the other side are the ones who should play real wing gameplay. Higuain or mandz in the middle.

Behind those 3, play a solid midfield... in the lines of marchisio, pjanic matuidi.
 

Hust

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Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
We are pigeonlocked to cuadrado because of lichteiner and mds, practically. Still, we NEED to give a serious run of games to berna and see how that goes. Priority must be to sell licht and find a replacement.

About dybala as a RW, been saying this since long time. The thing is, he should not play as a strict Rw, but an inside forward with some touches of wingplay.

Costa or pjaca on the other side are the ones who should play real wing gameplay. Higuain or mandz in the middle.

Behind those 3, play a solid midfield... in the lines of marchisio, pjanic matuidi.
:tup:
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
12,834
So, despite leaking more goals than ever with the same lineup/formation...the theory is now that we can’t make the 4231 work without cuadrado and Mario?

I think it’s that kind of thinking that was part of the reason Italy won’t be at the WC and we haven’t won the CL the last to finals we were in.

Gutless. Afraid of change.

No guts no glory.
It's possible the formation would be better by swapping Mario for Costa/Berna. They can actually transition from defence to attack.

But there's no way I would be comfortable with either of them over Cuadrado. Our right side would be a disaster defensively.

I would rather just say fuck it and play a 4-3-3 with Dybala at RW and Cuadrado at RB.
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
Our right side is already a disaster defensively.

Again, people can’t be afraid of change.

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But I like and agree with the last part :D
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
3421

Gigi/Szcz

Howedes/Benatia Rugani/Benatia Chiellini/Barzagli

Cuads/MDS Pjanic/Bentancur Marchisio/Matuidi/Sami AS/DC/Matuidi

Dybala/Berna Mandzu/DC

Higgy/Mandzu/Dybala

if we change formation, then this one please
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
3421

Gigi/Szcz

Howedes/Benatia Rugani/Benatia Chiellini/Barzagli

Cuads/MDS Pjanic/Bentancur Marchisio/Matuidi/Sami AS/DC/Matuidi

Dybala/Berna Mandzu/DC

Higgy/Mandzu/Dybala

if we change formation, then this one please
Pick your starting 11 for that formation.


Go.
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,985
It's possible the formation would be better by swapping Mario for Costa/Berna. They can actually transition from defence to attack.

But there's no way I would be comfortable with either of them over Cuadrado. Our right side would be a disaster defensively.

I would rather just say $#@! it and play a 4-3-3 with Dybala at RW and Cuadrado at RB
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Been saying that cuadrado thing since aeons. The team practically screams to have him as RB. I do not trust mds or licht, and cuadrado is not a hitman as a RW, but he has great stamina and is on way better form than the 2 mentioned. Use him as RB and dybala/berna as rw.

The thing is, allegri needs to find other options. Stickign with licht and asamoah on the other side will kill us. Sandro needs to pull the finger out of his ass too.
 

K.O.

Senior Member
Nov 24, 2005
13,883
3421

Gigi/Szcz

Howedes/Benatia Rugani/Benatia Chiellini/Barzagli

Cuads/MDS Pjanic/Bentancur Marchisio/Matuidi/Sami AS/DC/Matuidi

Dybala/Berna Mandzu/DC

Higgy/Mandzu/Dybala

if we change formation, then this one please
Pick your starting 11 for that formation.


Go.
I love this.

Buffon

Howedes Rugani Chiellini

Cuadrado Pjanic Matuidi Sandro

Dybala Costa/Bernardeschi

Higuain​
 

zizinho

Senior Member
Apr 14, 2013
51,816
Pick your starting 11 for that formation.


Go.
the player to the left of every xxxx/xxxx basically, but lots of rotation. what i like is that it eliminates our major weakness this season - backup fullbacks - so you dont have to play Asa anymore when AS is rested, and can put DC or Matuidi at LWB. we also wont have to start any of our RBs as we have Cauds at RWB, with MDS as backup, and Berna as a more offensive option when needed
 

Papi-a

Senior Member
May 9, 2006
676
What i dont understand this year is his rotation in a defence that is terrible. Rotation is normal but did we play with the same defence to match in a row this year? Make your Pick at make it work, then rotate!

Secondly we look so much better going forward When Douglas is involved! He is not just a brainless wing like Cuadrado, but he a very good combination and passing player. He has to get more touched, Cause we look much more dangerous When he is involved.
 

MikeM

Footballing Hipster celebrating 4th place with Tuz
Sep 21, 2008
12,834
Been saying that cuadrado thing since aeons. The team practically screams to have him as RB. I do not trust mds or licht, and cuadrado is not a hitman as a RW, but he has great stamina and is on way better form than the 2 mentioned. Use him as RB and dybala/berna as rw.

The thing is, allegri needs to find other options. Stickign with licht and asamoah on the other side will kill us. Sandro needs to pull the finger out of his ass too.
I don't think Juan will make a great RB but at this point our RB option is costing a goal every 2 or 3 matches so can he possibly be worse? He could even get punted into the net like Lichtsteiner but at least offensively he will contribute more so it's a net gain.
 

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