We are significanfly superior to Sevilla. We just decided to bench our best players for some stupid reason.
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if our coach had the balls to field higuain-dybala-pjaca-cuadrado we could roflstomp them last night, dybala alone caused so much problems to sevilla when he tried to burst forward on several occasions, but he was simply left to work alone when the rest of his team mates were offensively inept.
and again, what was the point of continuing to play with 3 CBs when sevilla was clearly, very obviously wasn't willing to attack and we were the one looking to score?
and again, what was the point of continuing to play with 3 CBs when sevilla was clearly, very obviously wasn't willing to attack and we were the one looking to score?
Too many wrong things that it's hard to chose how to start. First, we weren't "that superior", NO. we weren't superior at all. They were playing away their first game against the strongest team so they can here looking for 1 point and they got It so... They actually were superior.
We were playing in our stadium against a hard Team but they aren't even in the level of so many other teams (RM, farca, atlético, BM, Borussia, City, PSG and Porto) so we have a high climb to go from your perspective
Won't win 10 out of 10? Even Max knows he is talking trash when he said we played better, if we play this game 10 times, we would draw mostly all
We were playing in our stadium against a hard Team but they aren't even in the level of so many other teams (RM, farca, atlético, BM, Borussia, City, PSG and Porto) so we have a high climb to go from your perspective
Won't win 10 out of 10? Even Max knows he is talking trash when he said we played better, if we play this game 10 times, we would draw mostly all
Buffon, Alves, Bonucci, Barzagli, Chiellini, Khedira, Lemina, Dybala and Higuain were all playing the game, no?
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The meltdown in this thread is pathetic.
Y'all sound liek a bunch of spoilt kids. We didn't play well and Allegri made some questionable decisions. But some of the doomsday tendering post here are just beyond stupid.
Barca just lost at home to Alaves and then went on to absolutely trash Celtic. It ain't as simple as your FM2016-brains seem to think. Had Khedira and or Higuain scored, y'all would ahve sounded completely different 'cause y'all emotional state judges the game.
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The meltdown in this thread is pathetic.
Y'all sound liek a bunch of spoilt kids. We didn't play well and Allegri made some questionable decisions. But some of the doomsday tendering post here are just beyond stupid.
Barca just lost at home to Alaves and then went on to absolutely trash Celtic. It ain't as simple as your FM2016-brains seem to think. Had Khedira and or Higuain scored, y'all would ahve sounded completely different 'cause y'all emotional state judges the game.
I don't understand why we always sacrifice CL for stupid Serie A, where we'd still win with our B team more often than not.
I mean, who gives a shit about beating Inter after all this? Beat Sevilla, then draw Inter, no one would care.
That's been the problem with Juventus for ages, we suck at prioritizing properly.
I mean, who gives a shit about beating Inter after all this? Beat Sevilla, then draw Inter, no one would care.
That's been the problem with Juventus for ages, we suck at prioritizing properly.
Instead he went full italian fielding only Higuain and Dybala who are offensive players leaving Chiello and Bonucci to create and even Dybala returned constantly to midfield to help because Asa and Lemina played like amateurs 
Barza, Bonucci, Evra, Alves, Khedira, Chiellini, Asamoah...against Seville at home..dat there attacing potential and creativity
Barza, Bonucci, Evra, Alves, Khedira, Chiellini, Asamoah...against Seville at home..dat there attacing potential and creativity
There was a lot of things wrong in last nights match, and I condone every single discussion hereof as long as it takes the small step away from emotional outburst and kindergarten logic based on stupid assumptions.
When the discussion is founded on knee-jerking, emotions and stereotypes; we all just become one collective group of dumbasses.
Just look at difference in how Asamoah is judge from this game to the Viola game a month ago. It's mindblowing. From "back at his best" to "He's done. No coming back".
When the discussion is founded on knee-jerking, emotions and stereotypes; we all just become one collective group of dumbasses.
Just look at difference in how Asamoah is judge from this game to the Viola game a month ago. It's mindblowing. From "back at his best" to "He's done. No coming back".
Allegri either overvalued Evra/Asamoah, or took for granted/overlooked Sevilla.
Either way, he was wrong - awfully wrong from the beginning, and most people knew it.
Thing is he actually seems to be a reasonable guy, smart and mainly humble enough to realize his mistakes, even though he doesnt need to admit this to the press. Actually, what he says to the press is irrelevant. The guy spent 2 months talking about Pjanic as a regista, and then he repeatedly goes with Lemina as a regista.
We still can qualify in first place, as long as he does the right things. There's a lot of quality.
However, there is an even more important lesson from this game. Asamoah isnt worth much nowadays. This leaves us with 3 useful midfielders. Than we have injured Marchisio, 2 guys who cant really contribute much in Asa and Sturaro, and Hernanes.
Our midfield situation is confirmed: its bad. Actually, very bad. Marotta & co committed a big mistake here. And I dont think Witsel or Matuidi will solve it.
Either way, he was wrong - awfully wrong from the beginning, and most people knew it.
Thing is he actually seems to be a reasonable guy, smart and mainly humble enough to realize his mistakes, even though he doesnt need to admit this to the press. Actually, what he says to the press is irrelevant. The guy spent 2 months talking about Pjanic as a regista, and then he repeatedly goes with Lemina as a regista.
We still can qualify in first place, as long as he does the right things. There's a lot of quality.
However, there is an even more important lesson from this game. Asamoah isnt worth much nowadays. This leaves us with 3 useful midfielders. Than we have injured Marchisio, 2 guys who cant really contribute much in Asa and Sturaro, and Hernanes.
Our midfield situation is confirmed: its bad. Actually, very bad. Marotta & co committed a big mistake here. And I dont think Witsel or Matuidi will solve it.
He is a good player but dont play him in a midfield 3 with Khedira and Lemina.
I actually think he was prioritising the game against Inter. Which is puzzling. There's 35 games left in Serie A, we can easily afford a loss or a draw at San Siro (as annoying as it would be) We really should have fielded our best team from the get-go last night. Look how much havoc Sandro and Pjanic caused when they played. We would have won the game if they started in place of Evra and Asa.
Unless this was a deciding match or we were at a risk of not qualifying, there is NOTHING more important than beating that filth decaying scum of a team who engineered our demise.
I would give away a win against Seville in the first round of the group for a win against Icter any day of the week, even if that match was a in the Coppa.
Get your head straight, Allegri has done the right thing, and we were unlucky not to win last night.
I would give away a win against Seville in the first round of the group for a win against Icter any day of the week, even if that match was a in the Coppa.
Get your head straight, Allegri has done the right thing, and we were unlucky not to win last night.
If we play every game the same as how we started against Fiorentina or Sassuolo with a full lineup including Pjanic, Sandro, Higuain etc we should be able to close most games including in CL in 30 mins. We have the quality to do that now. Instead we do the opposite and chase the game in the last 15 minutes and end up with a failure of a result. The biggest thing for me is starting Evra AND Asamoah though. Even if we had the right mentality there's not enough attacking threat there to really do damage against a good opponent. It was odd looking at what was happening on the pitch and seeing Pjanic, Sandro, Cuadrado and Pjaca all on the bench...
or the problem might be that your paper valuations are not realistic. name me one team in history that got to CL semis trashing everyone for at least a few years straight lol. or do you consider this Juve the best team in history?
we have got a great team, but also lots of issues. thin midfield, bunch of useful players that don't fit together with our best players, our main goal source has been a choker so far in his career and many of our players are at a very tricky age and might decline rapidly this season.
we have got a great team, but also lots of issues. thin midfield, bunch of useful players that don't fit together with our best players, our main goal source has been a choker so far in his career and many of our players are at a very tricky age and might decline rapidly this season.
We tend to do that "chasing the game" thing a lot in Europe. We basically threw away ~70 mins of the game, give or take the Khedira and Higuain chances. They pressed the shit out of us, knew we had nothing for the most part on the wings and were low on creative quality in the middle. Allegri left it way too late to make the necessary changes and it was inevitable the game was petering out to a 0-0. Similar game to the Gladbach home draw last year.
It's crazy...the amount of creative, attacking quality we had on our bench was crazy. Even a double change at HT might have been enough for us to get three points. So fucking frustrating, the performance, the mentality, the lineup everything. This European malaise just won't fuck off.
It's crazy...the amount of creative, attacking quality we had on our bench was crazy. Even a double change at HT might have been enough for us to get three points. So fucking frustrating, the performance, the mentality, the lineup everything. This European malaise just won't fuck off.