Massimiliano Allegri (176 Viewers)

[Bianconero81]

Can't blame Allegri for everything, but he has to shoulder some of the responsibility. It must be frustrating working with turds like Fagiot and Glassmsey. Injuries, Lazy cunts, and low IQ players would drive any coach insane.

Having said that, The Mister needs to adapt, and I'm quite sure come January/February, we will be fine. We won't win the title this year, but we can at least finish top 3/4, target a place in the QF of the CL, and set the foundations for next season and beyond.

 

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[Post Ironic]

you are projecting hard post ironic. only one crying and upset is you.

Cry some more, pussycat.

 

[LiquidPLP]

Can't blame Allegri for everything, but he has to shoulder some of the responsibility. It must be frustrating working with turds like Fagiot and Glassmsey. Injuries, Lazy cunts, and low IQ players would drive any coach insane.

Having said that, The Mister needs to adapt, and I'm quite sure come January/February, we will be fine. We won't win the title this year, but we can at least finish top 3/4, target a place in the QF of the CL, and set the foundations for next season and beyond.

You're quite positive regarding the outcome, I don't have such high hopes tbh. Not after this shit start to the season.

Luckily we're almost through in CL, we need dem $$$ for squad upgrade.

 

[Mike-e-y]

are their midfielders that much better than ours?

atalanta, milan and inter are barely making an impact in CL. milan is out their mid sucked. inter is only in thanks to dzeko dragging their team and also risk elimination. and atalanta barely holding on and risk elimination.

in eruopa league napoli isn't doin that great in their group. lazio also risks elimination.

yet we top our group with 3 wins and ZERO goals conceded. and we can barley score goals cuz we can't create.

i don't buy into their mids are that much better than ours. it shows in their matches against european teams. so why are they top of table ahead of juve with significant point difference? it's the coach. the coach can't coach

If we’re talking midfield then I think they are significantly better than ours. Those teams have other challenges in their squads and from a CL perspective experience is very important when playing against European teams and that’s why we are doing better in Europe (our group is also significantly easier than theirs with the exception of inter). Also when I’m talking midfield here I’m also referencing our massive hole on LW where we have to play a Rabiot or Berna who kill any attacking momentum.

You say it’s the coach that makes the difference. Our coach is the best out of all of those teams, you can’t really be claiming any of Spalletti, Pioli, Inzaghi, Gasperini or Sarri are better than Allegri??

The only elite manager other than Allegri in Italy is Mourinho and he’s had his expiry date

 

[Lion]

If we’re talking midfield then I think they are significantly better than ours. Those teams have other challenges in their squads and from a CL perspective experience is very important when playing against European teams and that’s why we are doing better in Europe (our group is also significantly easier than theirs with the exception of inter). Also when I’m talking midfield here I’m also referencing our massive hole on LW where we have to play a Rabiot or Berna who kill any attacking momentum.

You say it’s the coach that makes the difference. Our coach is the best out of all of those teams, you can’t really be claiming any of Spalletti, Pioli, Inzaghi, Gasperini or Sarri are better than Allegri??

The only elite manager other than Allegri in Italy is Mourinho and he’s had his expiry date

good post. i can't give you an answer on that. if we go by past reputation then yes li allegri is without a question better... but just like players, coaches imo should be judged on what they are doing now. and right now allgeri is sucking more than he is not sucking.

also i think almost every squad deals with imbalances in their team due to injuries or planning. even man city doesn't have a CF and they rich as hell. but they deal with it. inbalances in team is normal for any team i don't understand why only us make it such a big deal

 

[Buck Fuddy]

I don't think the Scudetto race is over as Italian papers are happy to claim.

Of cours it's not over. Lots of teams still in the race.



It's just a shame we're not one of them.

 

[Strickland]

Of cours it's not over. Lots of teams still in the race.

It's just a shame we're not one of them.

Of course we are, have a little faith. Best teams peak in spring.

 

[juve123]

good post. i can't give you an answer on that. if we go by past reputation then yes li allegri is without a question better... but just like players, coaches imo should be judged on what they are doing now. and right now allgeri is sucking more than he is not sucking.

also i think almost every squad deals with imbalances in their team due to injuries or planning. even man city doesn't have a CF and they rich as hell. but they deal with it. inbalances in team is normal for any team i don't understand why only us make it such a big deal

https://www.90min.com/posts/europea...nd-rankedpsg-manchester-united-city-barcelona

 

[JCK]

Awww, you’re cute. Whining and crying all over the forum because we lost to Sassuolo. You sad little pussycat.

Let's be honest though. that loss was quite hard. At this point in time you'd think we should have figured out something. I thought we would improve over the recent 1-0 streak. Then came the Inter match and in one way something went wrong there and set us back. I thought we would win it to be honest.

 

[Post Ironic]

Let's be honest though. that loss was quite hard. At this point in time you'd think we should have figured out something. I thought we would improve over the recent 1-0 streak. Then came the Inter match and in one way something went wrong there and set us back. I thought we would win it to be honest.

Oh, this match was shit, for sure. But it’s October. If we’re still playing like this in the new year, that will be awful, but I’m not going to act like an October loss is the end of the world and means Allegri is washed up and terrible

 

[JCK]

Oh, this match was shit, for sure. But it’s October. If we’re still playing like this in the new year, that will be awful, but I’m not going to act like an October loss is the end of the world and means Allegri is washed up and terrible

I am not implying that but at the same time I do not think the reactions are exaggerated. It is mostly the same people saying the same things about Allegri since forever. I don't think it is necessary to engage as it won't make any difference, the ground logic is way apart to reach any common discussion ground.

 

[juve123]

Oh, this match was shit, for sure. But it’s October. If we’re still playing like this in the new year, that will be awful, but I’m not going to act like an October loss is the end of the world and means Allegri is washed up and terrible

Are there any similarity between our crisis and one at barcelona

 

[Akshen]

Beign realistic here there are 3 teams who have a stronger starting eleven than us on paper. Inter, Milan and Napoli.
Inter has superior defence, attack and midfield to us. Milan is better at midfield, similiar at attack and defence and Napoli has better midfield and attack.
So looking at it realistically, 4th place is where we should finish, anything below it will be a failure.
This is the current state of Juve., though this might be changed if we are able to add top mid and CF to our squad.

 

[Strickland]

That's just kneejerking, no one before the season would claim that Napoli or Milan have a better squad than us. Most valuable Serie A clubs by transfermarkt:

Juventus FC €602.90m
Inter Milan €525.90m
SSC Napoli €518.55m
AC Milan €476.70m
AS Roma €429.85m
Atalanta BC €415.35m

 

[Bianconero81]

Lol. Using transfermarkt evaluations to determine which squad is better

I can name at least five teams that have superior midfields, one or two teams with a superior defense, and perhaps two or three teams with a better attack.

Our squad may be the deepest and most expensive, but in terms of quality it is sorely lacking.

 

[s4tch]

That's just kneejerking, no one before the season would claim that Napoli or Milan have a better squad than us. Most valuable Serie A clubs by transfermarkt:

Juventus FC €602.90m
Inter Milan €525.90m
SSC Napoli €518.55m
AC Milan €476.70m
AS Roma €429.85m
Atalanta BC €415.35m

he said "better starting eleven", and it's right. our squad is unbalanced as it gets. we've got depth, still, there will always be 2-3 weak spots with any 11. also, milan, inda and napoli has been playing the same football with the same squad for years while we lack continuity.

transfermarkt's valuation is misleading too. who would have thought that anguissa would turn out to be so good? what's his value compared to rabiot? what's dzeko's value at this age? isn't he still a class above kean though?

 

[Strickland]

Lol. Using transfermarkt evaluations to determine which squad is better

I can name at least five teams that have superior midfields, one or two teams with a superior defense, and perhaps two or three teams with a better attack.

Our squad may be the deepest and most expensive, but in terms of quality it is sorely lacking.

sure, transfermarkt has its holes (but they apply to all teams the same, it's not like we have a young team and others have old teams). but I don't mind, we can do it your way, please name all of those lists, I'm very intrigued.

because imo we have hands down the best defense and it's not even close. midfield and attack depends on whether you place Chiesa, Kulu, Berna as attackers or midfielders, but if they're attackers we also have hands down the best attack and a top3 mid.

 

[IlCapitano]

I will believe the Napoli and Milan challenge if they continue playing like this from February. I still believe Inter will or at least should win.

Mathematically I don't think it's over, I just don't trust this team to put a run of games like the 15/16 team which is what will be needed.

 

[Strickland]

I will believe the Napoli and Milan challenge if they continue playing like this from February. I still believe Inter will or at least should win.

Mathematically I don't think it's over, I just don't trust this team to put a run of games like the 15/16 team which is what will be needed.

If Napoli and Milan continue like this, they'll both have statistically better season than anyone in Serie A history. Of course, it's a possibility, but it's fucking unlikely

 

[Bianconero81]

sure, transfermarkt has its holes (but they apply to all teams the same, it's not like we have a young team and others have old teams). but I don't mind, we can do it your way, please name all of those lists, I'm very intrigued.

because imo we have hands down the best defense and it's not even close. midfield and attack depends on whether you place Chiesa, Kulu, Berna as attackers or midfielders, but if they're attackers we also have hands down the best attack and a top3 mid.

Inter have a superior Defense, and you could also make an argument for Napoli.

Napoli, Milan, Lazio, Inter, and possibly even Roma and Atalanta have superior Mids.

Milan and Napoli have a superior strike force, and you could make a case for Inter and Atalanta as well.