Massimiliano Allegri (175 Viewers)

[Lion]

we won a few matches thanks to individual brilliance too.

vs torino we won thanks to a locatelli moment. vs sampdoria same. vs inter we were very lucky to draw match. if not for some moments of brilliance from players we would even deeper into a relegation fight.

the play is same as before in attacking and creative phase as it has been for 3+ seasons including allegri's last two. rely on individual moments of magic instead of cohesive team play. before it was blamed on ronaldo causing imbalance in team. before than it was higuain and mandzukic not being good enough.

the problem is italian coaches.

 

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[Bjerknes]

we won a few matches thanks to individual brilliance too.

vs torino we won thanks to a locatelli moment. vs sampdoria same. vs inter we were very lucky to draw match. if not for some moments of brilliance from players we would even deeper into a relegation fight.

the play is same as before in attacking and creative phase as it has been for 3+ seasons including allegri's last two. rely on individual moments of magic instead of cohesive team play. before it was blamed on ronaldo causing imbalance in team. before than it was higuain and mandzukic not being good enough.

the problem is italian coaches.

Same with Chiesa against Spezia. We were going to lose that one, too. That's fucking insane and incredibly poor, especially for someone like Allegri who is considered one of the best.

 

[Lion]

you have chiesa starting in the team and you stick him with defensive duties for what? are danilo and mckennie that poor that they can't protect that right flank on their own?

imagine mohamed salah who in 15 games for liverpool has scored 15 goals and 5 assists being asked to go help danilo around our box. where is the trust in players to play in their best roles? only italian coaches do this kind of thing

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by the way EVERY team deals with imbalances due to budget or injuries. EVERY single one. we only team that make it an excuse for coach to get away with it

 

[Adrian]

We have one capable midfielder. The rest are either injured, lazy or just plain average. How does one create tactics in this scenario?

 

[Post Ironic]

we won a few matches thanks to individual brilliance too.

vs torino we won thanks to a locatelli moment. vs sampdoria same. vs inter we were very lucky to draw match. if not for some moments of brilliance from players we would even deeper into a relegation fight.

the play is same as before in attacking and creative phase as it has been for 3+ seasons including allegri's last two. rely on individual moments of magic instead of cohesive team play. before it was blamed on ronaldo causing imbalance in team. before than it was higuain and mandzukic not being good enough.

the problem is italian coaches.

No cohesive team play in Allegri’s second last season? The season we scored 86 goals, the most of the modern era at this club. Smashed Milan 4-0 in Coppa final. Went out of CL on a 50/50 last second penalty against the eventual winners… that season? Lol. Our attacking tactics were fantastic that season and had next to nothing to do with individual brilliance. But keep banging on.

Our attack and even overall play is shit right now. It needs to get sorted, because even with our garbage ass midfield we can and should be better than this. But we aren’t going to be anywhere near a top contending team in European football until we get some capable CMs to partner Locatelli. McPotter, Rabiot, Bentancur, Arthur are all trash

 

[Lion]

how are other coaches doing it? is fabian or zielinski that much better than our current players? i don't think so.

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No cohesive team play in Allegri’s second last season? The season we scored 86 goals, the most of the modern era at this club. Smashed Milan 4-0 in Coppa final. Went out of CL on a 50/50 last second penalty against the eventual winners… that season? Lol. Our attacking tactics were fantastic that season and had next to nothing to do with individual brilliance. But keep banging on.

we talking about same season we lost 0-3 in our own stadium right? right? smashed in our own stadium by three goals. completely outplayed. what a suprise italian tactics failed when it matters.

 

[Post Ironic]

how are other coaches doing it? is fabian or zielinski that much better than our current players? i don't think so.

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we talking about same season we lost 0-3 in our own stadium right? right? smashed in our own stadium by three goals. completely outplayed. what a suprise italian tactics failed when it matters.

Ahhh yes, one single game. Where your boy Dybala got red carded lol. Of course you’d be dumb enough to make out that 1 single game against the 3X straight CL winners was the entire season. And ignore that we proceeded to smash them 3-1 at their stadium in the return leg. Ignore the 95 point domestic doubles too. Kick rocks, loin. You’re boring.

 

[iosono.bianconero]

He needs a player like Mandzukic in the team the most.. too bad there is no player like mandzukic in this world.

 

[Lion]

Ahhh yes, one single game. Where your boy Dybala got red carded lol. Of course you’d be dumb enough to make out that 1 single game against the 3X straight CL winners was the entire season. And ignore that we proceeded to smash them 3-1 at their stadium in the return leg. Ignore the 95 point domestic doubles too. Kick rocks, loin. You’re boring.

whos ignoring what. 4 seasons in a row existing early in CL. 3 in round of 16 and 1 in QF.

 

[kao_ray]

The vast majority of this forum wanted them all out though, especially Pjanic. Most said he was past it and wanted replacements, such as Locatelli for instance. So folks can't have it both ways.

Honestly, the midfield isn't THAT much worse. Sure, it's worse considering Pjanic and Matuidi were always decent, veteran players.

Pjanic left when he was 30, that's not a veteran player. Matuidi and Khedira are both World Cup champions. You really can't compare them to Ramsey, Arthur, Bentancur, Rabiot and the Burger.

 

[Post Ironic]

whos ignoring what. 4 seasons in a row existing early in CL. 3 in round of 16 and 1 in QF.

Allegri exited in QFs twice after Cardiff, you muppet. You have no clue what you are talking about. Go troll somewhere else.

 

[Lion]

don't let that small mistake distract you from the fact that post ironic is on suicide watch after his bf allegri admitted that scoring 1 goal isn't enoug

 

[Mike-e-y]

how are other coaches doing it? is fabian or zielinski that much better than our current players? i don't think so.

We have a tendency to overrate our players because of their names and the money involved to get them. I’d swap Zielinski and Fabian for all of our CMs bar Locatelli. I’d swap with Inters midfield, Lazio’s, Atalanta’s, Milan’s

Our midfield is mid table Serie A level that is paid on the equivalent of Europe’s elite, for some reason people seem to believe our central midfield is the most talented in Serie A.

Ramsey - useless, not motivated, overpaid, injured
Rabiot - Lazy, lacks intelligence, lacks heart, inconsistent
McKennie - The only football he should be playing is American
Arthur - One dimensional
Bentancur - The best of all of these and the only one that has looked functional this season but he lacks quality

Its Max’s job to get the best out of them and so far he’s been disappointing but that doesn’t paper over the fact that our team isn’t of the right level or mentality

 

[Lion]

are their midfielders that much better than ours?

atalanta, milan and inter are barely making an impact in CL. milan is out their mid sucked. inter is only in thanks to dzeko dragging their team and also risk elimination. and atalanta barely holding on and risk elimination.

in eruopa league napoli isn't doin that great in their group. lazio also risks elimination.

yet we top our group with 3 wins and ZERO goals conceded. and we can barley score goals cuz we can't create.

i don't buy into their mids are that much better than ours. it shows in their matches against european teams. so why are they top of table ahead of juve with significant point difference? it's the coach. the coach can't coach

 

[JCK]

Damn, I just realized that we have scored only 14 goals in the first 10 games.

Napoli have 22 - 3

 

[Lion]

how come napoli only conceded 3 goals in 10 matches but we conceded 14 in 10 matches?

 

[Post Ironic]

don't let that small mistake distract you from the fact that post ironic is on suicide watch after his bf allegri admitted that scoring 1 goal isn't enoug

Awww, you’re cute. Whining and crying all over the forum because we lost to Sassuolo. You sad little pussycat.

 

[campionesidd]

Awww, you’re cute. Whining and crying all over the forum because we lost to Sassuolo. You sad little pussycat.

Hang in there man. Don’t let the haters get to you.

 

[Strickland]

I don't think the Scudetto race is over as Italian papers are happy to claim. There's no use of comparing ourselves up to Napoli and Milan right now and thinking that -13 is a huge deficit, those two are currently on pace for 106 point season lol and we know it won't last for long.

I'd wager that we'd need to amass around 86 points for the Scudetto, which means we should've been on 22-23 points right now, but are trailing 7-8 points. So in the remaining 28 games we need ~71 points, which is a peak Allegri Juventus pace. Will it be hard to reach? Yes. Is it impossible? Definitely no, we have the defensive solidity, just need to figure out our best set-up in attack and we can restart grinding out 3 points after 3 points.

Last seasons Milan is a perfect illustration of the drop in form we'll most likely see with both Napoli and Milan this season. Up until round 15 they had earned 37 points, became Winter champions and had a 94 point season pace. In the remaining rounds they dropped off a cliff (they'd have finished 6th if the season was only those last 23 rounds) and finished the season on 79 points. Teams that peak in fall rarely become champions, the season is long.

 

[Lion]

you are projecting hard post ironic. only one crying and upset is you.