Massimiliano Allegri (325 Viewers)

[Dostoevsky]

Juventus. Looking at the table and our schedule, it'd be devastating to drop out of top4 at this point. Missing out on CL means significant financial harm next season and further negative impact down the road too when negotiating broadcasting and commercial deals.

We can lose the Coppa final or lose the battle for 3rd spot and end up 4th for all I care, but the Napoli match is a must must win.

I didn't say we lose 4th forever but more like:
1) we lose, get Allegri, catch up eventually
2) we win, we manage to keep 4th spot, and we keep Pirlo

I think second option would have far more devastating results.

 

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[JCK]

So... Loss would maybe give us Allegri. If we win chances of change are 0%

Who do we cheer for

If we lose and drop out of the top four and Pirlo gets sacked. There is no manager or power at there that will bring us back in the CL spots.

 

[JuvePerSempre10]

Surely management is not that short-sighted to neglect an entire season and base a decision on 1 game, right? Pirlo leaving at the end of the season seems inevitable to me at this point, unless we turn on all cylinders for the last 10 games and blow every opponent away, which is not going to happen.

We have to win this game at all cost, but that will come with the risk of keeping Pirlo for the remainder of the season.

 

[JCK]

Surely management is not that short-sighted to neglect an entire season and base a decision on 1 game, right? Pirlo leaving at the end of the season seems inevitable to me at this point, unless we turn on all cylinders for the last 10 games and blow every opponent away, which is not going to happen.

We have to win this game at all cost, but that will come with the risk of keeping Pirlo for the remainder of the season.

 

[Buck Fuddy]

Surely management is not that short-sighted to neglect an entire season and base a decision on 1 game, right? Pirlo leaving at the end of the season seems inevitable to me at this point, unless we turn on all cylinders for the last 10 games and blow every opponent away, which is not going to happen.

We have to win this game at all cost, but that will come with the risk of keeping Pirlo for the remainder of the season.

Euhm, I recall us spending hundreds of millions on a certain, ageing superstar we didn't need just to win the CL the next season(s).

That's pretty much the definition of being short-sighted.

 

[IlCapitano]

So... Loss would maybe give us Allegri. If we win chances of change are 0%

Who do we cheer for

If I knew there was any chance Allegri comes right away in case we lose to Napoli then rooting for Napoli all the way. Losing now is winning in the long term in that case.

But I doubt it happens. Pirlo is gone at the end of the season no matter what IMO and I doubt Allegri is coming back.

 

[Dostoevsky]

If I knew there was any chance Allegri comes right away in case we lose to Napoli then rooting for Napoli all the way. Losing now is winning in the long term in that case.

But I doubt it happens. Pirlo is gone at the end of the season no matter what IMO and I doubt Allegri is coming back.

Sadly I do think chances of that are high.

 

[Strickland]

I didn't say we lose 4th forever but more like:
1) we lose, get Allegri, catch up eventually
2) we win, we manage to keep 4th spot, and we keep Pirlo

I think second option would have far more devastating results.

I'm not that sure Allegri guarantees catch up, April is a rather packed month in terms of fixtures for us and there's not much a coach can do without extended training time available. I'd pick Pirlo winning against Napoli and seeing the season out to hopefully lead us to 4th and Allegri working with the management on next season behind scenes. The time to change the coach was before the NT break not now.

 

[GarfielD]

Pirlo will finish the season regardless any result he manages to get vs Napoli. I think that he will be here until the end of the season even if we dont make top 4.

 

[Boksic]

We are all over the place and looks like the players heads are gone too.

Don't underestimate the impact changing coach can do even in the short term. Quite often you see teams sack their manager and their results improve. It doesn't always last as sometimes the appointment isn't right but it can be the relief a team needs.

I have no doubt whatsoever if we appointed Allegri tomorrow we would get in the top 4. If we stick with Pirlo I have big doubts.

 

[.zero]

I would hope he would be given more say in transfers and that if Paratici and Nedved have a problem with this, they can GFTO as soon as possible.

Dis

 

[IlCapitano]

 

[zizinho]

Is sarri going to work anywhere soon? Would be nice to not pay him 6.5M net next season

 

[JuvePerSempre10]

Cant handle this. I know he won't solve everything, but the thought that we are at least in good hands in the coaching department with someone who can mask management's flaws gives me an incredibly warm feeling inside. Give him full control and I am sure we will back where we belong in no time.

 

[IlCapitano]

Is sarri going to work anywhere soon? Would be nice to not pay him 6.5M net next season

Roma seems like the only option.

 

[s4tch]

...Give him full control...

remember the only allegri signing of those 5 years?

buying players is a different skill. just give him a say in the mercato: he can pick the players to sell, and he can define the type of player he wants. don't give him a hernanes if he wants an isco. we need a competent sport director, let's not expect the coach to do two jobs.

that said, i'd love max on our bench. i agree with the rest of your post, it would be some reassurrance after these two seasons. but he's not a miracle maker: both the management and the squad need a heavy facelift, regardless of the coach.

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Roma seems like the only option.

i can see adl swallowing his pride and call him back too

 

[IlCapitano]

remember the only allegri signing of those 5 years?

buying players is a different skill. just give him a say in the mercato: he can pick the players to sell, and he can define the type of player he wants. don't give him a hernanes if he wants an isco. we need a competent sport director, let's not expect the coach to do two jobs.

that said, i'd love max on our bench. i agree with the rest of your post, it would be some reassurrance after these two seasons. but he's not a miracle maker: both the management and the squad need a heavy facelift, regardless of the coach.

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i can see adl swallowing his pride and call him back too

Khedira and MM were also his signings IMO.

I think Napoli is too broke, they seem like they want a young coach for a 'project'. I'd love to see Inzaghi with them take that next step and see what he can do with a stronger team.

 

[zizinho]

Roma seems like the only option.

But they wont pay him so much, so he probably decides to relax another season

 

[BayernFan]

@BayernFan has been there before... What do you say?

Sometimes a loss can be healthy, nothing wrong in hoping for that if it's for the greater good.

But with that said - a loss only helps if you get rid of all those who shouldn't be in the club, so getting rid of only the coach won't solve much if the board is to be blamed as well.

Allegri might do better, but he's still having an incompetent board behind him.

 

[duranfj]

that season he used 3-5-2 for half of matches(17 times) and 4-3-1-2 19 times. then next season he goes to back to 3-5-2(26) times and drops 4-3-1-2(7 times).

We keep playing 3-5-2 for quite long time and Max a lot of times did surprise everyone with UCL formations and tactics. We were a winning team in the growing phase so why he would try to take everythin apart right away?

My issues with Max were after cardiff, we have been declining since then, the only different is that Pirlo accelerated the process like 100x