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Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,327
People still want him fired? Why exactly? We are still in November, and as far as I can tell, we are still in the running for Serie A and CL. I can't believe this forum sometimes. Bunch of $#@!ing bitches.
Its not our position... Its the way we are playing! I cant see the chemistry in our team, Link up to attack is really bad and I admit he did great last year but he is undoing everything he did last year with this year!
I never rated him as a top coach and I dont rate him now!
Serie A - We are not running for anything! Open your eyes I`m not saying its the fact we are 7th that is the problem right now its the fact I cant see us bounce back to fight for the top spot.
Watch Napoli and Roma - Napoli are having a great campaign and for once they are quite consistent! Should they stay consistent they would win it! Roma are the 2nd most quality side in Serie A (behind us in terms of quality players) their problem is that they are not consistent!
Both Napoli and Roma are playing much better than us and will definitely finish the season ahead of us unless something special happens!
Inter are just being lucky and thats why they are where they are but they also could come ahead of us in the league if we dont improve!
Fiorentina are just a temp contender who will vanish as the race continues... Milan will continue the season as they did last season!
Right now Roma and Napoli are ahead of us in terms of quality football with Inter might not be better but are more efficient!

Do you see any improvement in our team?! I dont! Our team still leaking goals even though we have the best defenders in Serie A and this is because the whole team dont defend well! Our mid is not half as good as it was without Pirlo and Vidal and you cant expect Dybala to play Tevez as he is just starting his adult life with us!
As for Morata - I know he isnt as dangerous in front of goal as he was last season but I blame the team on that as he has to track back and move to the sides much more than he used to last season!
 

Hydde

Minimiliano Tristelli
Mar 6, 2003
38,987
Yup. We are playing like shid and not getting the results we are supposed to. Playing random players, changing formation because of cuadrado, playing morata wide, not using dybala, not using rugani. Displacing morata for mandzukic.
On top of all that, we are playing like if we were sampdoria or something. Provincial performances. Also, if he was so eager in playing 433, and if he knew a possible formation switch was coming, why he let coman go as easy?.

I dont understand this dude. If he stays in 7th place, I hope he is sacked and we get someone that can pump us back. Anyone.

Marotta should be blamed too. He did horrendou and seems to be continuing on that path.

Im surprised at the low standards some have here, and how they can be happy with whats going on and saying all will be fine
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,327
wenger, ranieri :lol:

if allegri wins the milan match we can keep him, we still have a chance. if not then hire ancelotti.
I`m not sure Ancelotti will do any better!
Ancelloti like Allegri is a coach who is best when he has players to play in a narrow formation
We are currently quite confused as we have some for wide and some for narrow which cause for loss of identity!
We are not a full team in any of the formations!

I actually want to follow Paulo Sousa managerial career as it has been quite impressive!
Just to think he was the coach of Maccabi Tel Aviv a few years before and now doing wonders with Fiorentina! Its more than just a huge leap!
Also remember him playing for us in our last triumph in europe make me have a soft spot for him (yes even if he did go to Inter afterwards...)
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
People still want him fired? Why exactly? We are still in November, and as far as I can tell, we are still in the running for Serie A and CL. I can't believe this forum sometimes. Bunch of fucking bitches.
I think the it international breaks are hurting us quite a bit especially now, when we are showing signs of some kind of life in our play. It comes in fits and starts but eventually I can see the team play some fluid football, although, I'm not seeing the team of the years past in terms of discipline. That may fall on Allegris plate eventually. For now though, I am 100% against sacking Allegri, for two primary reasons.

A) The old players know him and his style into the season and have an established working relationship which helps integrate the new ones. So he is perhaps more likely to get more out of the team as a whole, eventually, than his successor could this season. B) He's getting the team to play a certain way and understand his methods, which means that this season is groundwork for next season, and the possible eventual big buys will probably fit the puzzle he is currently dealing with. And help him in the process, optimise the team to play in the manner that he envisions, which means he will be playing to his own strengths come next year with less work on team integration and more work on tactics.

And one area, that I genuinely feel sorry for Allegri is, what he pointed out yesterday. Teams scoring with their first shot on target against us. It's happening more frequently than one would expect, and as a result it's making him look worse as a manager than he actually is.
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,545
Talking about sacking Allegri at this point is absurd. That Italian speaking alternative hidden in Marottas sock drawer?

Talking about sacking Allegri if we don't win Serie A is a whole 'nother matter..
 

Hust

Senior Member
Hustini
May 29, 2005
93,703
People still want him fired? Why exactly? We are still in November, and as far as I can tell, we are still in the running for Serie A and CL. I can't believe this forum sometimes. Bunch of fucking bitches.
:tup:

Still too early to go that far. He isn't the only one that deserves the blame but he certainly shares it. I still think we will turn this around
 

FuriaCeca

Senior Member
Jun 2, 2014
727
He needs to find a way to utilise both Morata and Cuadrado. Morata is wasted on the wing with all that defensive work. I think his best form comes when he plays in the attack next to another attacker.
 

Post Ironic

Senior Member
Feb 9, 2013
42,253
He needs to find a way to utilise both Morata and Cuadrado. Morata is wasted on the wing with all that defensive work. I think his best form comes when he plays in the attack next to another attacker.
4-4-2

Our midfielders aren't strong enough for us to be worried about only playing 2 of them.

So:

Licht------Barzagli-Bonucci-Evra
Cuadrado-Marchiso-Pogba-Sandro
------------Dybala-Morata

When we want to be a little more attacking put Pereyra in place of ALex Sandro. And He can also cover for Evra. We'll have tons of rotation options in mid and attack. That formation could easily morph itself into 4-3-3 and 4-3-1-2 any time we want, and it gets all our best players on the field simultaneously in positions they are actually good at playing.
 

Xperd

Allegrophobic Infidel
Jun 1, 2012
35,005
Talking about sacking Allegri at this point is absurd. That Italian speaking alternative hidden in Marottas sock drawer?

Talking about sacking Allegri if we don't win Serie A is a whole 'nother matter..
Absolutely.That's the thing.

Sacking him would mean a much inferior manager in the middle of the season.
Better wait until the summer if Allegri doesn't achieve the required objectives
 

Nenz

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2008
10,472
A 4-4-2 would beat this retarded 4-3-3. As long as Allegri picks a working system and sticks with it. I still think a 4-3-1-2 with Pereyra is the most balanced and conducive to good football.
If he keeps persisting with his current tactics I can't see any turnaround in time to salvage anything important. We've got two wins on the trot in the league but frankly our recent league wins were all against minnows while Toro have been out of form for a long while now. Atalanta is the only game I remember any good football being played in the past month but Atalanta were very very poor. When we've played any half decent side that wants to press us this season (Sassuolo, Napoli etc.) we crumbled under the pressure.

If the sloppyness with the ball continues this sides going to keep getting found out. All that's needed is some consistency with the best players on the field in the best system possible. Then we'll finally see some composure and cohesive play. Part of that comes down to injuries and fatigue and the rest is up to Allegri. He might have to make some awkward decisions - a.k.a dropping Cuadrado for Pereyra - you gotta risk it to get the biscuit.
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
:tup:

Still too early to go that far. He isn't the only one that deserves the blame but he certainly shares it. I still think we will turn this around
Too many factors needed to help turn the season around. Allegri finding his fit. Players integrating into a unit. New, younger players growing faster than it would take in a more organic situation. Core players being injury free as the schedule tightens up and fatigue sets in. And winter mercato signings proving to be the missing link in the team's plans on one level. Too much to do, with the air around the club being tense, and high pressure. Will be amazing if Allegri can keep his cool and not let the pressure filter the environment, but it gets to the best of em, so I'm a little more pessimistic about our chances.
 

Nenz

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2008
10,472
Absolutely.That's the thing.

Sacking him would mean a much inferior manager in the middle of the season.
Better wait until the summer if Allegri doesn't achieve the required objectives
Depends who. We could get someone like Montella or Prandelli. Technically they're no better than Allegri but if it comes to the point where there's no improvement and things look really desperate in the league (not top 3) then you've got to make the change. Sometimes all players need when coming out of crises is a new voice to listen to because the old one got stale.

That's obviously far from the case right now, but not impossibly far.
 

baggio

Senior Member
Jun 3, 2003
19,250
Depends who. We could get someone like Montella or Prandelli. Technically they're no better than Allegri but if it comes to the point where there's no improvement and things look really desperate in the league (not top 3) then you've got to make the change. Sometimes all players need when coming out of crises is a new voice to listen to because the old one got stale.

That's obviously far from the case right now, but not impossibly far.
Not entirely, and there's no fixed formula for this to be honest. A Montella and a Prandelli may be no better than Allegri if the team has been lost psychologically. Just for the sake of argument, I would trust Allegri more than the other two, if we are able to have a well planned mercato and preseason next season to implement ideas, plans and tactics. That's really what it will come down to. Unlikely that Montella, Prandelli, Mazzarri will be able to do any better with this team in this state than Allegri would.
 

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