Martin Cáceres (18 Viewers)
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I like this boy. He impresses me going forward, but he needs to be more disciplined at the back. I think his passing despite a few being off target was quite good in a first game back from injury. I still take him over all our right back options in the squad. I'm sure he's barely developed after this constantly interupted season.
You can teach a player to pass better, you can teach a player to cover better. You can't teach a player desperation and good mentallity. That's what I think this kid has, a great mentallity that our whole squad lacks. He is always after the ball. The thing that pains me most is watching Diego for example dribble the ball, lose it and immediately give up and the same goes for 70% of our squad. Caceras will pressure the opposition at any given opportunity, he persists at the ball with first, second and third efforts which reminds me of Cannavaro in his glory days. That mentallity is essential in defenders and hard to come by in football.
His desperation and mentallity mind you isn't the only reason I like him. Like I said he's quite good going forward his passing was pretty smart, he would think before he crossed the ball in the box (e.g if he found a free player sitting outside the box he'd opt for that, which I think is the best way to get the ball closer to goal without risking turning it over eventuating in a counter attack + that player was usually Diego who is the most effective passer in the team. It also makes out attacks less predictable to opponents). He also links up relatively well on the wings I've seen some impressive runs from him.
If we can find a better RB going for 10m this mercato then by all means send him back to Barca. To me he looks like a decent prospect worth investing in. I don't blame him for not developing in this sorry excuse for a team.
You can teach a player to pass better, you can teach a player to cover better. You can't teach a player desperation and good mentallity. That's what I think this kid has, a great mentallity that our whole squad lacks. He is always after the ball. The thing that pains me most is watching Diego for example dribble the ball, lose it and immediately give up and the same goes for 70% of our squad. Caceras will pressure the opposition at any given opportunity, he persists at the ball with first, second and third efforts which reminds me of Cannavaro in his glory days. That mentallity is essential in defenders and hard to come by in football.
His desperation and mentallity mind you isn't the only reason I like him. Like I said he's quite good going forward his passing was pretty smart, he would think before he crossed the ball in the box (e.g if he found a free player sitting outside the box he'd opt for that, which I think is the best way to get the ball closer to goal without risking turning it over eventuating in a counter attack + that player was usually Diego who is the most effective passer in the team. It also makes out attacks less predictable to opponents). He also links up relatively well on the wings I've seen some impressive runs from him.
If we can find a better RB going for 10m this mercato then by all means send him back to Barca. To me he looks like a decent prospect worth investing in. I don't blame him for not developing in this sorry excuse for a team.
He can already defend. He just makes silly mistakes. No more or less than what Chiellini did and still does from time to time when he was younger. I don't see what the problem is.
Montero was a great defender but I don't see anybody knocking him considering how many PKs he had given away...same goes for Iuliano...those two together
Fuck guys, the boy will learn. All young defenders make mistakes. Hell 6 months ago Kjaer was the new Messiah and now look how many people are changing their minds or having second thoughts. Give it time, damn.
Take it from a guy who played defense his entire life, its pretty much all I ever know how to play and play it well. Caceres's problems are not that big if you have an intelligent coach that knows how to iron it out.
Montero was a great defender but I don't see anybody knocking him considering how many PKs he had given away...same goes for Iuliano...those two together
Fuck guys, the boy will learn. All young defenders make mistakes. Hell 6 months ago Kjaer was the new Messiah and now look how many people are changing their minds or having second thoughts. Give it time, damn.
Take it from a guy who played defense his entire life, its pretty much all I ever know how to play and play it well. Caceres's problems are not that big if you have an intelligent coach that knows how to iron it out.
I was just messing about, replying to what you said with a joke. Have I hit a nerve? 
I don't know what to make of Cáceres myself. I want to give him a shot because I know what the current alternatives are, but I don't know whether he's the starting RB we want, when we're looking at rebuilding a team.
I don't know what to make of Cáceres myself. I want to give him a shot because I know what the current alternatives are, but I don't know whether he's the starting RB we want, when we're looking at rebuilding a team.
Trying players out is what you do when you get a player on loan, like we did Cáceres this year. Thing is, we still don't really know what to make of him, as it's also hard to judge players after a terrible overall season.
12m ( or what was his pricetag again? ) is pretty high, and he seems quite a big risk still. Maybe re-loan, if that's possible? I really don't know.
What are the alternatives? It's not like good RBs are lying around on the floor for us to pick up.
Like I said, I don't know what to make of him. He could come good, he could not improve at all, which would not really make him the reliable back we need.
12m ( or what was his pricetag again? ) is pretty high, and he seems quite a big risk still. Maybe re-loan, if that's possible? I really don't know.
What are the alternatives? It's not like good RBs are lying around on the floor for us to pick up.
Like I said, I don't know what to make of him. He could come good, he could not improve at all, which would not really make him the reliable back we need.