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You had my back
Just for funsies, I wonder what @Hist, @s4tch, @Zacheryah, and @Klin have to say now about what they said then.
More like you seemed to have my back initially or reminded everyone that you said the same thing but got lol'd at. But then, when pressure was piled on and Klin said you had to have been trolling, you chickened out.
Just for funsies, I wonder what @Hist, @s4tch, @Zacheryah, and @Klin have to say now about what they said then.
Just for funsies, I wonder what @Hist, @s4tch, @Zacheryah, and @Klin have to say now about what they said then.
If i recall correctly, i said it would be weak at the start, especially wich cheesio out, it would take time to gell so preferably weak CL group, and depending on the explosion of Pogba , confirmation of Morata, performance of khedira and explosion of Dybala, it could be as strong as last season at the end, and stronger in the future.
So what did i say
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You can look that up. I said it would take a while to gell, but at the end of the season it could be just as good depending on certain players developping, and better in the future.
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...Wich is why that "not yet" is in this post for example.
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And here is it again
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You can look that up. I said it would take a while to gell, but at the end of the season it could be just as good depending on certain players developping, and better in the future.
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...Wich is why that "not yet" is in this post for example.
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And here is it again
You are quite pissing me off man. Seriously. Are you now deliberatly trying to read something different ?
First of all, go after all those posters who were shitting on Marotta. Dont bother finding me during september as i was banned for a month. Oh, why did i got banned ? Because togheter with Hustini, Jem, B_Aus, we were going against the incredible abundance of marotta haters. "the society and team_pathetic". Defending marotta, i picked up too many infractions.
I said, all we lost compared to last season, was tevez. Pirlo was benched at the start of 2015. He got back cause Pogba was injured. Vidal only stopped beeing shit at the end of the season for the last few games except the final.
Where do i say "we are fucked without tevez" ? I said he's the only loss. Thats it.
Tevez was world class. It would take improvement and confirmation of Morata, Dybala, Pogba to bridge that loss. And i said we could become just as good at the end of the season if we are lucky, and better in the future.
I got alot of smacktalk cause i said that. Be a fucking doll and go expose the people who were crapping on marotta and calling his head. I was defending him.
First of all, go after all those posters who were shitting on Marotta. Dont bother finding me during september as i was banned for a month. Oh, why did i got banned ? Because togheter with Hustini, Jem, B_Aus, we were going against the incredible abundance of marotta haters. "the society and team_pathetic". Defending marotta, i picked up too many infractions.
I said, all we lost compared to last season, was tevez. Pirlo was benched at the start of 2015. He got back cause Pogba was injured. Vidal only stopped beeing shit at the end of the season for the last few games except the final.
Where do i say "we are fucked without tevez" ? I said he's the only loss. Thats it.
Tevez was world class. It would take improvement and confirmation of Morata, Dybala, Pogba to bridge that loss. And i said we could become just as good at the end of the season if we are lucky, and better in the future.
I got alot of smacktalk cause i said that. Be a fucking doll and go expose the people who were crapping on marotta and calling his head. I was defending him.
More like you seemed to have my back initially or reminded everyone that you said the same thing but got lol'd at. But then, when pressure was piled on and Klin said you had to have been trolling, you chickened out.
Just for funsies, I wonder what @Hist, @s4tch, @Zacheryah, and @Klin have to say now about what they said then.
Just for funsies, I wonder what @Hist, @s4tch, @Zacheryah, and @Klin have to say now about what they said then.
What I did get wrong is that I underestimated the impact of Dybala. I didnt think a 20 year old can fill tevez's shoes so quickly. I wanted (and still want) to cash in on Zaza and look for a marchisio and a dybala sub (especially the former).
Actually, you didn't rate Marchisio as a regista much.
You addressed the attack part. Do you hold the same position of the midfield too being a "massive downgrade" and the defense being the same? And still think the current team is weaker or about the same? I think the starting XI is about the same but the squad is stronger.
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And we aren't completely free of injuries yet. Marchisio's immediate backup, Lemina, is injured, and the third option for that position, Hernanes, has recently returned. Lets see how Lemina does first before saying Marchisio doesn't have a decent sub. And Hernanes is a decent third option.
You addressed the attack part. Do you hold the same position of the midfield too being a "massive downgrade" and the defense being the same? And still think the current team is weaker or about the same? I think the starting XI is about the same but the squad is stronger.
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And we aren't completely free of injuries yet. Marchisio's immediate backup, Lemina, is injured, and the third option for that position, Hernanes, has recently returned. Lets see how Lemina does first before saying Marchisio doesn't have a decent sub. And Hernanes is a decent third option.
Actually, you didn't rate Marchisio as a regista much.
You addressed the attack part. Do you hold the same position of the midfield too being a "massive downgrade" and the defense being the same? And still think the current team is weaker or about the same? I think the starting XI is about the same but the squad is stronger.
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And we aren't completely free of injuries yet. Marchisio's immediate backup, Lemina, is injured, and the third option for that position, Hernanes, has recently returned. Lets see how Lemina does first before saying Marchisio doesn't have a decent sub. And Hernanes is a decent third option.
You addressed the attack part. Do you hold the same position of the midfield too being a "massive downgrade" and the defense being the same? And still think the current team is weaker or about the same? I think the starting XI is about the same but the squad is stronger.
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And we aren't completely free of injuries yet. Marchisio's immediate backup, Lemina, is injured, and the third option for that position, Hernanes, has recently returned. Lets see how Lemina does first before saying Marchisio doesn't have a decent sub. And Hernanes is a decent third option.
I still hold that the 2013 midfield is superior yes.
Lemina doesnt strike me as a distributor at all but more of a ball winner. I've only seen him twice though.
You didn't seem to rate Marchisio in the regista role and said it was a failure to get a proper Pirlo replacement.
Pirlo was spectacularly poor last season.
I'm sure 2013 midfield is superior for everyone. We are comparing this season's midfield with last season's though, not 2013's.
Yes, Lemina is defensive. He's a good short passer but doesn't have the long range or vision. It's not a requirement for the player in that position to be a distributor though, esp if he's a backup.
Pirlo was spectacularly poor last season.
I'm sure 2013 midfield is superior for everyone. We are comparing this season's midfield with last season's though, not 2013's.
Yes, Lemina is defensive. He's a good short passer but doesn't have the long range or vision. It's not a requirement for the player in that position to be a distributor though, esp if he's a backup.
The thing with Pirlo was that he required great attention of both other cm's in order to operate Just by putting Marchisio there, the two other cm's gain a great deal of enhanced offensive freedom and possibilities
Furthermore, Marchisio is a supportive player that is entirely focussed in getting the best out of the other two cm's, wingbacks and support the frontline. He enhances the team.
If you put a succesfull marker on Pirlo, the team greatly loses effectivity. The special factor of Pirlo falls away, and the other 2 cm's will need to be helping him out even more.
Putting a marker on Marchiso is rather silly, as this would give even more room to the other cm's and wingbacks to operate in. It wont do jack shit. If anything, Marchisio would draw them away from the "hot" zone, and when he can, he'll still try to appear to keep the ball hot.
In 12/13 Pogba was nowere near as good as today. He barely managed to move marchisio away from b2b position. Vidal was excellent tho.
Today we see a MUCH better Pogba, and the incredible enhancement of wingbacks and midfield by marchsisio. If Khedira can continue his return to form and pull of great games, this midfield is the best post calciopoli one we've seen.
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Not everyone m8
Furthermore, Marchisio is a supportive player that is entirely focussed in getting the best out of the other two cm's, wingbacks and support the frontline. He enhances the team.
If you put a succesfull marker on Pirlo, the team greatly loses effectivity. The special factor of Pirlo falls away, and the other 2 cm's will need to be helping him out even more.
Putting a marker on Marchiso is rather silly, as this would give even more room to the other cm's and wingbacks to operate in. It wont do jack shit. If anything, Marchisio would draw them away from the "hot" zone, and when he can, he'll still try to appear to keep the ball hot.
In 12/13 Pogba was nowere near as good as today. He barely managed to move marchisio away from b2b position. Vidal was excellent tho.
Today we see a MUCH better Pogba, and the incredible enhancement of wingbacks and midfield by marchsisio. If Khedira can continue his return to form and pull of great games, this midfield is the best post calciopoli one we've seen.
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You didn't seem to rate Marchisio in the regista role and said it was a failure to get a proper Pirlo replacement.
Pirlo was spectacularly poor last season.
I'm sure 2013 midfield is superior for everyone. We are comparing this season's midfield with last season's though, not 2013's.
Yes, Lemina is defensive. He's a good short passer but doesn't have the long range or vision. It's not a requirement for the player in that position to be a distributor though, esp if he's a backup.
Pirlo was spectacularly poor last season.
I'm sure 2013 midfield is superior for everyone. We are comparing this season's midfield with last season's though, not 2013's.
Yes, Lemina is defensive. He's a good short passer but doesn't have the long range or vision. It's not a requirement for the player in that position to be a distributor though, esp if he's a backup.
More like you seemed to have my back initially or reminded everyone that you said the same thing but got lol'd at. But then, when pressure was piled on and Klin said you had to have been trolling, you chickened out.
Just for funsies, I wonder what @Hist, @s4tch, @Zacheryah, and @Klin have to say now about what they said then.
Just for funsies, I wonder what @Hist, @s4tch, @Zacheryah, and @Klin have to say now about what they said then.