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Ok first of all the minority wore it, second of all how do you know they arent wearing from there own choice? You think the men are interfering? What about all the single women who live by themselves? should that be illegal for them too
well im sorry my good sir, statistics indicate your wrong. There are strong reports which link pornography with sexual harassment rape and crime. Ted Bundy himself told us that he was heavily influenced by porn and if the entertainment system was not to clean itself there will be more people like him
Yes clearly and that's why in West we've had stories such as
- Josph Fritzl in Austria raping and sexually abusing his daughter for 20 years in a locked basement
- Michele Mongelli did the same thing in italy roughly 20 years had her locked
- Rapid rise in women serial killers Ted Bundy for example murdering and sexual abusing women
- disturbing statistics of rape, sexual harressment which is nothing compared to the ones of the middle east.
- more teenage pregnancy leaving them distraught and difficult to live their life as they have no one to help them raise the child.
and a side all of this, you have women being portayed as tool of pleasure nothing more. You have P.diddy singing on our radio: "I wanna girl to ride ride ride" and Akon; "smack that all the floor", and we have the nerve to go round sorting other ppl's problems? especially since there sex related crime dwarfs ours? Fact of the matter is the sex culture thats being promoted in the capitalist countries are failing, fail really is the best way to describe our current problems. Forget the middle east, what we need to try to do is solve the absolute mess and problems we are suffering from and they're not.
You've said one thing I agree with, the fact is the capitalist countries are in power at the moment, which these days unfortunately means it is they who decide whats right or wrong...for now. But when things change, and they will, we can all have a good laugh at our utterly ridiculous sex culture.
Until that time, those who arrogant will remain arrogant and denial of there societies power. I have nothing more to add feel free to interpret and respond to it the way you want
well im sorry my good sir, statistics indicate your wrong. There are strong reports which link pornography with sexual harassment rape and crime. Ted Bundy himself told us that he was heavily influenced by porn and if the entertainment system was not to clean itself there will be more people like him
Yes clearly and that's why in West we've had stories such as
- Josph Fritzl in Austria raping and sexually abusing his daughter for 20 years in a locked basement
- Michele Mongelli did the same thing in italy roughly 20 years had her locked
- Rapid rise in women serial killers Ted Bundy for example murdering and sexual abusing women
- disturbing statistics of rape, sexual harressment which is nothing compared to the ones of the middle east.
- more teenage pregnancy leaving them distraught and difficult to live their life as they have no one to help them raise the child.
and a side all of this, you have women being portayed as tool of pleasure nothing more. You have P.diddy singing on our radio: "I wanna girl to ride ride ride" and Akon; "smack that all the floor", and we have the nerve to go round sorting other ppl's problems? especially since there sex related crime dwarfs ours? Fact of the matter is the sex culture thats being promoted in the capitalist countries are failing, fail really is the best way to describe our current problems. Forget the middle east, what we need to try to do is solve the absolute mess and problems we are suffering from and they're not.
You've said one thing I agree with, the fact is the capitalist countries are in power at the moment, which these days unfortunately means it is they who decide whats right or wrong...for now. But when things change, and they will, we can all have a good laugh at our utterly ridiculous sex culture.
Until that time, those who arrogant will remain arrogant and denial of there societies power. I have nothing more to add feel free to interpret and respond to it the way you want
Crazy as it sounds, it had occurred to me.
I don't know if it's true or not, I'm just explaining the reasoning behind this.
What strong links? If you want to present some studies go ahead. But I won't take your word for it just because you heard it somewhere.
And the testimony of some lunatic is pretty irrelevant. Are you saying he did it because pornography drove him to it?
You could have just said "Yes. Yes, I do deny that there is much more gender equality in the west." Thanks for your essay, but if we can't agree on that simple fact then I don't see much point in proceeding.
I don't know if it's true or not, I'm just explaining the reasoning behind this.
What strong links? If you want to present some studies go ahead. But I won't take your word for it just because you heard it somewhere.
And the testimony of some lunatic is pretty irrelevant. Are you saying he did it because pornography drove him to it?
You could have just said "Yes. Yes, I do deny that there is much more gender equality in the west." Thanks for your essay, but if we can't agree on that simple fact then I don't see much point in proceeding.
So thats all its based on. Peoples perception and belief that women do not wear it out of choice, nothing really concrete behind the belief? just pure intuition? i mean a woman can't possibly be so different than our women, they can't possibly be wearing it out of choice. Go to the anthropology section in the library, read a book on cross cultural differences, you might be surprised to find out that there are cultural differences among different people.
LOL. I wonder if this sort of thing is legal in all 53 countries above them in this list: http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita
Erm, no data? This is Saudi after all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics Japan 5th from bottom.
I can provide lots of lists, all with Japan nowhere near the top, rendering this point useless.
I guess these are the people that still blame rap music for the high crime rate in the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics Japan 5th from bottom.
I can provide lots of lists, all with Japan nowhere near the top, rendering this point useless.
I guess these are the people that still blame rap music for the high crime rate in the US.
I know what you mean but these lists are mostly indeed useless. A girl stoned to death by her family in Afghanistan because she had been raped, how do you expect to have a true knowledge about the number of rapes happened in such regions? These list surely reflect the truth partly (I dare say to the extent that you could use them for your argument), but they are mostly very flawed.
You said that burqa is banned because of the belief(whether right or wrong) that women do not wear it out of choice?
The keyword being belief here, so it isn't really based on anything other than the French government's belief that women wear it forcibly. Did they interview or survey a representative sample of French muslim women? So, whats the difference between them and between Saudi Arabia that bans women from driving? I don't know their reasoning behind that, but maybe its out of the Saudi government's belief that women driving are dangerous(its an example, i know thats not their reasoning).
The keyword being belief here, so it isn't really based on anything other than the French government's belief that women wear it forcibly. Did they interview or survey a representative sample of French muslim women? So, whats the difference between them and between Saudi Arabia that bans women from driving? I don't know their reasoning behind that, but maybe its out of the Saudi government's belief that women driving are dangerous(its an example, i know thats not their reasoning).
Wanna read about facts?
http://www.soros.org/initiatives/ho...ons/publications/unveiling-the-truth-20110411
http://www.soros.org/initiatives/ho...ons/publications/unveiling-the-truth-20110411
You download the pdf, no?
Reasons for Wearing the Face Veil
CAMILE: And why did I decide, at that very moment to do it? Because I have always
been a Muslim and I always wanted to please God. At a certain point, you tell yourself,
“I don’t want to die disobedient to Allah. I want to meet my Lord. I am practising, I
am religious, I am Muslim and I want to die obedient to Allah while doing the best of
deeds.” I don’t know which deed of faith will decide whether Allah will take mercy on
me so I try not to neglect anything. In other words, for me, everything is important.
I have progressed very slowly, but at the end of the day I’ve finished with a flourish.
I finish with a flourish and that’s my approach, it’s really a spiritual approach.
DUNIYA: In fact, I always wanted [to wear] it. Since I’ve been wearing the headscarf
I have always held the sisters who wear [the niqab] in esteem, because it’s the highest
degree, the highest level for a woman. In other words, it’s just your Lord and yourself
with no mediation. You live for your Lord. You are in perpetual adoration or at least
you are trying to be in perpetual adoration.
JAMEELAH: I had the feeling that the headscarf and the jelbab were not enough. I
felt the need to develop spiritually. For me it was one of the paths. In fact there are
several paths to be nearer to God. For some it’s prayer. So it was one of the ways that
could bring me closer to God. And spiritually I yearned for something stronger in
fact. But I didn’t consider it as an obligation. For me it was something extra, it was
good.
IFFAT: Because of the face, masha’Allah [whatever God wills] , it’s something very
important in a woman. When a man sees the face of a woman it [signifies] a great
deal. And the pious women, the women of the Prophet, the women of the past, were
wearing [the veil] subhan’Allah. In fact, it’s the cloth of chastity. It’s like the jelbab,
it’s like the hijab.
Reasons for Wearing the Face Veil
CAMILE: And why did I decide, at that very moment to do it? Because I have always
been a Muslim and I always wanted to please God. At a certain point, you tell yourself,
“I don’t want to die disobedient to Allah. I want to meet my Lord. I am practising, I
am religious, I am Muslim and I want to die obedient to Allah while doing the best of
deeds.” I don’t know which deed of faith will decide whether Allah will take mercy on
me so I try not to neglect anything. In other words, for me, everything is important.
I have progressed very slowly, but at the end of the day I’ve finished with a flourish.
I finish with a flourish and that’s my approach, it’s really a spiritual approach.
DUNIYA: In fact, I always wanted [to wear] it. Since I’ve been wearing the headscarf
I have always held the sisters who wear [the niqab] in esteem, because it’s the highest
degree, the highest level for a woman. In other words, it’s just your Lord and yourself
with no mediation. You live for your Lord. You are in perpetual adoration or at least
you are trying to be in perpetual adoration.
JAMEELAH: I had the feeling that the headscarf and the jelbab were not enough. I
felt the need to develop spiritually. For me it was one of the paths. In fact there are
several paths to be nearer to God. For some it’s prayer. So it was one of the ways that
could bring me closer to God. And spiritually I yearned for something stronger in
fact. But I didn’t consider it as an obligation. For me it was something extra, it was
good.
IFFAT: Because of the face, masha’Allah [whatever God wills] , it’s something very
important in a woman. When a man sees the face of a woman it [signifies] a great
deal. And the pious women, the women of the Prophet, the women of the past, were
wearing [the veil] subhan’Allah. In fact, it’s the cloth of chastity. It’s like the jelbab,
it’s like the hijab.
in the book silly, you gotta buy it 
We are not used to such stuff in Iran, we are more into free downloading
Joking aside, I'm really interested in knowing the reason. For someone like me who is strictly against wearing Burqa (to the point that I even support banning it), it would be very interesting to know why some women choose to wear a veil even despite the pressure from their family members as suggested in the article.