At least, I suppose, if they get recruited they are weakened 
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Mafia 2015.5 || 'Tuz: The Beginning (34 Viewers)
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Was the Lawyer ever recruited before? It seems like game over for the Cs.
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The only reason I'm in question if because of Fred and Alen's actions yesterday... Before that I didn't do anything to be a suspect in the first place.
Does this sound reasonable? Alen and/or Fred used the opportunity two pit two Cs against each other, not caring about the final outcome (hence Fred's attempt to change which was too late), so that whichever C was lynched, the other would be seen as a G who was saved?
Does this sound reasonable? Alen and/or Fred used the opportunity two pit two Cs against each other, not caring about the final outcome (hence Fred's attempt to change which was too late), so that whichever C was lynched, the other would be seen as a G who was saved?
What makes me worry about lynching Alen is that he put that last second vote on X. If Alen is a G then X must be a C and that would mean that Alen exposed himself in a pretty amateur move yesterday. I don't know if he makes such mistakes. Of course knowing him he would probably spend this whole day explaining himself and some people would probably believe him.
I see that when you accused him of an orchestrated assassination on X, he rephrased it as saving me... I don't know why he would do that, since my role was obviously still unclear, and everyone except Alen thought X was a C. Maybe Fred thought differently, but I'm just wondering if he maybe thought what he did would make it easy to take two Cs in two days.
Btw, have we all ruled out the possibility of X being a G?
Btw, have we all ruled out the possibility of X being a G?
Lazy stuff lynching Alen btw, not only because he's in jail, but because those who are voting for Alen, or me for that matter because of the last minute vote are doing so without thinking. To be honest, the only ones that seem interested in making sense out of yesterday's events are Hoori, Radekas and Voller.
I'm going to make the same point for the umpteenth time. If Alen or I are G's, then the only logical explanation is that we were saving Matt, there can be no other explanation. If anyone thinks either of us is a G, and we made a last minute vote for any reason other than saving a fellow G, he/she shouldn't play this game again. Anyway, I don't rule out Alen being a G, and IMO there are only two ways to find out. Either by lynching Alen or lynching Matt. The way I see it, all due respect to Matt, but I'd rather lynch him first.
All of you seem hell bent on X being a C. Personally I'm not half convinced.
I'm going to make the same point for the umpteenth time. If Alen or I are G's, then the only logical explanation is that we were saving Matt, there can be no other explanation. If anyone thinks either of us is a G, and we made a last minute vote for any reason other than saving a fellow G, he/she shouldn't play this game again. Anyway, I don't rule out Alen being a G, and IMO there are only two ways to find out. Either by lynching Alen or lynching Matt. The way I see it, all due respect to Matt, but I'd rather lynch him first.
All of you seem hell bent on X being a C. Personally I'm not half convinced.
my intention wasn't to save you. What I said was that if you assume my voting on deadline meant I'm a G, then there can be no explanation other than I was saving a fellow G, which had to be you, since you were the one saved by my actions.
To spare you from going all the way back to read up. This was my line of thinking, up until the last 5 minutes I was convinced X was a C. Then when I started asking people if I should save X by voting for you, a flurry of people changed their votes and others urged me to do so too. The number of people leaping to X's defense made me change my mind in the end.
To spare you from going all the way back to read up. This was my line of thinking, up until the last 5 minutes I was convinced X was a C. Then when I started asking people if I should save X by voting for you, a flurry of people changed their votes and others urged me to do so too. The number of people leaping to X's defense made me change my mind in the end.
I'm so confused by this post.
You're saying if you were a G, you only voted X to save me because I'm a G too. So if you're a C, why did you save me, and then why did you try to change your vote?
And how does lynching me tell you whether Alen's a G or not, but not you? Where's your accountability here? If I'm a G, you're just as G as Alen.
In fact, I could be a C and one or the both of you could be Gs. Well, that's what the reality is in my eyes
You're saying if you were a G, you only voted X to save me because I'm a G too. So if you're a C, why did you save me, and then why did you try to change your vote?
And how does lynching me tell you whether Alen's a G or not, but not you? Where's your accountability here? If I'm a G, you're just as G as Alen.
In fact, I could be a C and one or the both of you could be Gs. Well, that's what the reality is in my eyes
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Why shut up alen? If anything he was killing himself by making some amateur arguments. This is one of the most random jailing ive seen and i really hope someone like fresh or rus did not get that role.
Defense? I just asked how people were so sure about who the lawyer is and worried about him/her being recruited by the Gs. I still dont know how the lawyer or the bodyguard role works
You will be excused only if u turn out to be a C.
That's assuming Matt is a C. Even if both X and matt are Cs then the Gs would definitely try to take out deneb first.
If X is a G then imma kill him TBH though the only reason i initially thought X was a C was Alen just going for him without anything solid to back it up, Fred and Alen's behaviour at the deadline made me sure.
I am still waiting for @Fred to explain why he voted for X.
Why ALC instead of Fred, Alen or Matt?
What do you think about Fred?
Defense? I just asked how people were so sure about who the lawyer is and worried about him/her being recruited by the Gs. I still dont know how the lawyer or the bodyguard role works
You will be excused only if u turn out to be a C.
That's assuming Matt is a C. Even if both X and matt are Cs then the Gs would definitely try to take out deneb first.
If X is a G then imma kill him
TBH though the only reason i initially thought X was a C was Alen just going for him without anything solid to back it up, Fred and Alen's behaviour at the deadline made me sure.I am still waiting for @Fred to explain why he voted for X.
Why ALC instead of Fred, Alen or Matt?
What do you think about Fred?
I explained it multiple times.
I don't even blame you for suspecting me and Alen for our last minute behavior, you're obviously new to the game and you saw some weird behavior at the end. I'm more disappointed in the more experienced players who by now should know that people who have played this game for a long time, would stay off the radar and not attract attention the way we did, certainly not in day 1.
That's all I can tell you really, the first game you played, you made the same mistake, and you got me lynched. I even mentioned it to you before this one started.
An explanation could be that you both are G's and wanted to divide your votes between two C's (X and Jihadi John). That way, whoever got lynched, at least one of you would have looked good. However, you miscommunicated and you both ended up voting on X. You tried to vote for Jihadi John, but you only did it after the deadline.
My whole point is that I'm a C
But if I were a G, then you must be a G too, there are no two ways about it. The same applies to Alen, the only way he's a G is if you're a G too.
the premise is; a G would not act the way me and alen did unless they were saving a fellow G. Do you disagree with that?
If you're a C, then you especially are supposed to be more convinced than anyone that both me and Alen are C's too.
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Well then that must mean that me and Alen are worst players than Sheik and Woody
Seriously, to even think that's remotely possible a fuck up in the first day is too far fetched, look at your post again, and tell me you're convinced thats a possibility. Secondly, and this is the crux of my point, if me or Alen were G's and both X and JJ are C's, we did not have to do anything at all. A C was going to be lynched, all we had to do was sit back, relax and let day 1 play out.
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I'm really not that against it. I have no idea what his role is. Again and again, I've said that both he and JJ might be G's that's plausible. Though I refuse to believe that Alen is a G, unless JJ is one too.
There is no way Alen is a G, if JJ is a C I can't see how anyone can disagree with that.
Of course we could lynch Alen to find out, but I'd personally lynch Matt instead.
But if I were a G, then you must be a G too, there are no two ways about it. The same applies to Alen, the only way he's a G is if you're a G too.
the premise is; a G would not act the way me and alen did unless they were saving a fellow G. Do you disagree with that?
If you're a C, then you especially are supposed to be more convinced than anyone that both me and Alen are C's too.
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Well then that must mean that me and Alen are worst players than Sheik and Woody
Seriously, to even think that's remotely possible a fuck up in the first day is too far fetched, look at your post again, and tell me you're convinced thats a possibility. Secondly, and this is the crux of my point, if me or Alen were G's and both X and JJ are C's, we did not have to do anything at all. A C was going to be lynched, all we had to do was sit back, relax and let day 1 play out.
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of course fred would be against alen getting lynched 
it would mean hes next
it would mean hes next
There is no way Alen is a G, if JJ is a C I can't see how anyone can disagree with that.
Of course we could lynch Alen to find out, but I'd personally lynch Matt instead.
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My whole point is that I'm a C
But if I were a G, then you must be a G too, there are no two ways about it. The same applies to Alen, the only way he's a G is if you're a G too.
the premise is; a G would not act the way me and alen did unless they were saving a fellow G. Do you disagree with that?
If you're a C, then you especially are supposed to be more convinced than anyone that both me and Alen are C's too.
But if I were a G, then you must be a G too, there are no two ways about it. The same applies to Alen, the only way he's a G is if you're a G too.
the premise is; a G would not act the way me and alen did unless they were saving a fellow G. Do you disagree with that?
If you're a C, then you especially are supposed to be more convinced than anyone that both me and Alen are C's too.
Or X is actually a G, and both of you are Cs. Harder to believe though.