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piotrr

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    Alen - Woody

    X - Alen

    Klin, Kyle, Jihadi John, Zacheryah, Kate, Salvo, ALC, Voller, Fred, Hoori, Fr3sh, radekas, Juventino[RUS], Maddy, WΏΏdy?, Tomice left to vote.
    6h till the deadline.
    2h till the jailing deadline.
     

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    Klin

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    May 27, 2009
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    So Alen is attacking Woody because "he orchastrated the campaign against Matt"? That's bullshit. Woody publically mentioned in his posts that he honestly believe X is a civilian. He didn't convince us to do shit. I genuinely thought the same and so far I stand by my decision that X is a C for now.

    What's also strange is that Alen was hiding behind his excuse that his vote for X was a joke with RUS and he was probably going to change it. Then when shit hit the fan, he changed it back to X. Fred fucked up at that moment and I believe that was a mistake from their end. His explanation for going for Woody today was easy with the orchestrated votes, but just ask yourselves this; would a guy who is playing his second official mafia game send this rep 1 minute before voting deadline who had it all figured out with his G buddies?
     

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    J
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    im going to go with Fred IMO he is being more strange than Alen. Tonight should reveal quite a bit. Sorry but I have to go to sleep now.

    His whole "im trembling game" and asking people who he should vote for at the deadline was too suspicious for me.
     

    Fr3sh

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    im going to go with Fred IMO he is being more strange than Alen. Tonight should reveal quite a bit. Sorry but I have to go to sleep now.

    His whole "im trembling game" and asking people who he should vote for at the deadline was too suspicious for me.
    I can fuck with that
    Fred
     

    radekas

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    So now I wondering what was the intention of jailer jailing Alen. Did he try to shut him up, save him from whack or make him a defensless lynching target?
     

    Fr3sh

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    Why?

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    What's your opinion on Alen?
    I've already explained why I thought Fred was suspicious.
    He claimed he wouldn't want to loose a c of x's caliber then proceed to vote for him, then switched up his vote again, and never bothered to explain his vote to x (unless I missed it). Also Fred hasn't been as aggressive as he usually is with his g hunts, he's asking for who to vote for instead of trying to influence the game by making people fuck up by pressuring them or influencing other people's votes.
     

    Kate

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    Feb 7, 2011
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    WΏΏdy?;5046437 said:
    Btw this is my first game, are so many people usually always inactive in every game? I mean no one would vote for Zach or Kate, Kyle or Tomice or their role even up for a debate since they dont post at all, and whatever they are busy with when they come back i doubt either of them would go read 50 pages of stuff to form an opinion.

    I dont know how this is allowed, but its just the first day so i guess its normal.
    Weekends are really not good for me, sadly. If I make it to tomorrow, I'll post a lot more :)

    I'm sorry to hear about your Dad, Janna.

    Reading through all these posts, the only person I feel good about as a C is X, and quite possibly Hoori.
     
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    piotrr

    piotrr

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    X - Alen
    Klin - Alen

    Salvo- Fred
    Fr3sh - Fred


    Kyle, Jihadi John, Zacheryah, Kate, Salvo, ALC, Voller, Hoori, radekas, Juventino[RUS], Maddy, WΏΏdy?, Tomice left to vote.

    Alen is in jail and his vote does not count.
     

    king Ale

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    Oct 28, 2004
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    That's good analysis with the little information you have and all, but if you're looking at last minute votes that decided/could have decided yesterday's outcome, then you did not include me and Voller, and without us its incomplete, its only an analysis of Alen, not yesterday's deadline time events.

    Anyway, in short what happened in the last two minutes: Voller voted for JJ(in addition to a few others), in the process saving X. Then a minute after that both me and Alen voted for X, taking his votes one higher than JJ.

    Therefore the options are; either we are all confused C's which is possible, or there was something going on yesterday. If the latter is true, then the only way you can explain me, Alen or Voller's votes is this way:

    Me and/or Alen trying to save Matt.

    Voller trying to save X.

    The only way to make sense of the whole thing is to find out X and Matt's roles. That's why I think the lawyer fvcked up yesterday. There is a big possibility that X and Matt might be C's and the whole thing serves as a big distraction, in which case those who were online and avoided casting a vote either way are the main suspects. IMO we have to lynch Matt or X today, no two ways about it.
    I was following you until the last sentence. Why Matt or X? To me Matt or Alen or you sounds more reasonable. If Matt is a C, Alen and you have to be Cs. If Matt is a G, both of you are Gs.

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    Perhaps you're right, but you need to make sense of things. Ok, I was not myself, what's the assumption? That I'm a G? Let's assume I am for a minute. What's the explanation for my behavior. Either I'm an idiot G that is bringing attention to myself unnecessarily(I could have just voted for someone without the added drama) , or I was trying to save someone. My voting would suggest that I was saving JJ with that last minute vote on X. Actually there is no other explanation if I were a G, the only explanation is that I was saving JJ, nothing else. But then, that could also mean that Alen was saving him too, he cast the same vote at the same time.

    The best way to find out is to lynch Matt, personally I know I'm a C. But it would give me peace of mind when it comes to Alen too, if JJ is a C, then in my mind there is no doubt at all that Alen is a C too. If JJ turns out to be a G, then I and Alen have a lot to answer for.

    On the flip side, if X turns out to be a G, then the likes of Woody and Voller have a lot to answer for.
    It's hard to think that X is a g because if he was, why didn't Voller vote no lynch? Why did Woody change his vote from no lynch to Matt?

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    Hello guysz totally forgot this because yesterday i heard that my father suddenly passed away. I am thinking about quit this one.

    @piotrr
    Janna :frown2: So sorry to hear that :(

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    Exactly.
    And if the lawyer didn't interfere like that yesterday, we wouldn't have been losing today with this. Now we'll have to make it between the two of them again.
    That's the most stupid thing i've heard :wth: of course with your and Fred's last minute vote the lawyer was gonna try to save X if he was sensible. Question is, why didn't you let Matt die so we wouldn't have to vote him again (i'm not gonna vote him btw)?
     

    king Ale

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    WΏΏdy?;5046435 said:
    @Bezzy, im so sorry to hear that hun :rab: stay strong, forget about the game. Maybe he RIP.


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    @king Ale

    Great analysis, and i agree with almost all of it, but im surprised there is no mention of Fred at all. How can you just forget the final seconds of yesterday's vote? Also all your posts following your long ones yesterday you have diverted your attention towards ALC and Fresh (both of whom i admit are my suspects as well) but make sure you are not distracted.
    @Fred has been drumming "you all think i was trying to save matt and i was not". NO Fred we dont really think u were trying to save matt but trying to get rid of X. Like u said why would u risk getting rid of a C at the last moment and look suspicious? Fact is You tired to save someone or u tired to get rid of someone, either way it was not us who made u vote at the last second of voting and that too such a suspicious vote. You ran around the town for suggestions to vote and almost 2-3 peeps clearly suggested matt and u just did the opposite at the end.

    So forget all arguments, simply explain to us why did u vote for X yesterday, at the death.
    Why Fred, if G, would try to save a c only to get rid of another c in the last seconds and make him super suspicious?
     

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