Mafia 2015.5 || 'Tuz: The Beginning (33 Viewers)

[Quetzalcoatl]

I would feel comfortable going for Matt today.

Hey, I'm now going through like 15 pages of posts to catch up, but can you tell me why you'd vote for me?

 

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[Völler]

That's the most stupid thing i've heard :wth: of course with your and Fred's last minute vote the lawyer was gonna try to save X if he was sensible. Question is, why didn't you let Matt die so we wouldn't have to vote him again (i'm not gonna vote him btw)?

Both Alen and Fred voted at 20.59. The lawyer would have to be extremely quick then.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I would feel comfortable going for Matt today.

why

 

[radekas]

Man this is hard. The only votes that would give us some answers related to yesterday are JJ, X or Alen imo. If we lynch JJ and he's a C, then all people going for JJ are suspicious (including me I guess). If we lynch X and he's a C, Alen and Fred are suspicious. If we lynch Alen and he's a C, X is suspicious. If JJ is a G, Alen and Fred are suspicious. If Alen is a G we kill the Brain Bug. If X is a G people going for JJ seem suspicious again.

Going for someone outside of that trio will not give us much unless we hit a lucky strike.

I've excluded Fred because he's basically Alen2.0 in this situation but provided fewer posts during day 1.

 

[Kate]

Hey, I'm now going through like 15 pages of posts to catch up, but can you tell me why you'd vote for me?

It's between you and Fred, really, but I think your death would solve some of Hoori's little puzzles there and give us something to go on.

 

[king Ale]

Why not Matt? Because once we see that he's a C you'll be in big trouble and that those who voted for him will also be in trouble? You won't have a big problem if I'm lynched and proven civilian, but it's gonna be different if Matt is a civilian.

Woody
The man orchestrated the late voting. No sane civilian would bother to do that.

Nope. If Matt is a C it doesn't mean X is a g, at all.

Your argument about Woody is nonsensical. Can't believe it's you who's making that accusation.

Let's say both Matt and X are Cs. X is gonna die 30 mins to the deadline. Nothing is happening until i suggest the no lynch option and Fred starts trying (or pretending to) saving X. If both Matt and X are Cs, people involved in the voting should be probably all Cs so we can focus on Fresh, ALC, Maddy and the inactive players. That's why i prefer to vote ALC today.

EDIT: Ooops Alen is jailed

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

It's between you and Fred, really, but I think your death would solve some of Hoori's little puzzles there and give us something to go on.

I see

 

[king Ale]

Both Alen and Fred voted at 20.59. The lawyer would have to be extremely quick then.

I really don't know how the lawyer role works (@Osman is gonna be mad at me for saying this) but in the games that i was playing offline, the narrator always asks the lawyer after the lynched victim is known, whether he/she wants to save the victim. Otherwise the lawyer powers mean shit. You need to know for sure who's getting lynched only then to decide whether you want to save him or not.

 

[Kate]

I really don't know how the lawyer role works (@Osman is gonna be mad at me for saying this) but in the games that i was playing offline, the narrator always asks the lawyer after the lynched victim is known, whether he/she wants to save the victim. Otherwise the lawyer powers mean shit. You need to know for sure who's getting lynched only then to decide whether you want to save him or not.

Normally it works in the same way the BG role does, they have to get you their save before the end of the day. Your way would definitely make better sense, provided the Lawyer is online...

 

[Völler]

Nope. If Matt is a C it doesn't mean X is a g, at all.

Your argument about Woody is nonsensical. Can't believe it's you who's making that accusation.

Let's say both Matt and X are Cs. X is gonna die 30 mins to the deadline. Nothing is happening until i suggest the no lynch option and Fred starts trying (or pretending to) saving X. If both Matt and X are Cs, people involved in the voting should be probably all Cs so we can focus on Fresh, ALC, Maddy and the inactive players. That's why i prefer to vote ALC today.

EDIT: Ooops Alen is jailed

But how will ALC tell us whether or not Matt and are C's. If he's a G, sure, then we'd be smarter, but if he's a C, we've wasted a day. Lynching Alen would tell us more even if he turns out to be a C.

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I really don't know how the lawyer role works (@Osman is gonna be mad at me for saying this) but in the games that i was playing offline, the narrator always asks the lawyer after the lynched victim is known, whether he/she wants to save the victim. Otherwise the lawyer powers mean shit. You need to know for sure who's getting lynched only then to decide whether you want to save him or not.

According to the rulebook, the lawyer has to make his/her choice before the voting is over. But I think you know that.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

But how will ALC tell us whether or not Matt and are C's. If he's a G, sure, then we'd be smarter, but if he's a C, we've wasted a day. Lynching Alen would tell us more even if he turns out to be a C.

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According to the rulebook, the lawyer has to make his/her choice before the voting is over. But I think you know that.

I'm not opposed to lynching Alen

 

[radekas]

Normally it works in the same way the BG role does, they have to get you their save before the end of the day. Your way would definitely make better sense, provided the Lawyer is online...

Lawyer should be able to send a "save" pm to the narrator for 5 minutes after the deadline imo.

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But how will ALC tell us whether or not Matt and are C's. If he's a G, sure, then we'd be smarter, but if he's a C, we've wasted a day. Lynching Alen would tell us more even if he turns out to be a C.

ALC will give us nothing in the greater context. He would be a shot in the dark though I admit that if I was to shoot, ALC would be one of the main targets.

 

[piotrr]

I really don't know how the lawyer role works (@Osman is gonna be mad at me for saying this) but in the games that i was playing offline, the narrator always asks the lawyer after the lynched victim is known, whether he/she wants to save the victim. Otherwise the lawyer powers mean shit. You need to know for sure who's getting lynched only then to decide whether you want to save him or not.

Lawyer can send me a request before the voting is over to save someone. If another person is lynched then he/she didn't waste his powers.
In this game lawyer already used powers once, so he/she can save someone only one more time.

 

[Kate]

Lawyer can send me a request before the voting is over to save someone. If another person is lynched then he/she didn't waste his powers.
In this game lawyer already used powers once, so he/she can save someone only one more time.

Indeed, what a waste

 

[Völler]

ALC will give us nothing in the greater context. He would be a shot in the dark though I admit that if I was to shoot, ALC would be one of the main targets.

If ALC turns out to be a G, we'd be smarter regarding X (has to be a C). It's also very likely that Matt would be a G if ALC is a G. However, I still don't understand why ALC should be top priority.

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Indeed, what a waste

What do you mean?

 

[Kate]

That saving X was a waste of the lawyer's powers. I don't disagree that X is a C, but it would be better to know for sure.

 

[radekas]

That saving X was a waste of the lawyer's powers. I don't disagree that X is a C, but it would be better to know for sure.

Waste of lawyer's powers? You speak like we see lawyer using his powers every game .

 

[Kate]

Waste of lawyer's powers? You speak like we see lawyer using his powers every game .

At least, I suppose, if they get recruited they are weakened

 

[radekas]

I mean the only way the Lawyer can use his power in a fully controlled way is if he gets recruited and is saving a G. As a C he can only use it on someone he firmly believes is a C but he can't be 100% certain anyway.

 

[WΏΏdy?]

So now I wondering what was the intention of jailer jailing Alen. Did he try to shut him up, save him from whack or make him a defensless lynching target?

Why shut up alen? If anything he was killing himself by making some amateur arguments. This is one of the most random jailing ive seen and i really hope someone like fresh or rus did not get that role.

Woody's defence of the Lawyer makes me think it's him

Defense? I just asked how people were so sure about who the lawyer is and worried about him/her being recruited by the Gs. I still dont know how the lawyer or the bodyguard role works

Weekends are really not good for me, sadly. If I make it to tomorrow, I'll post a lot more

You will be excused only if u turn out to be a C.

Why Fred, if G, would try to save a c only to get rid of another c in the last seconds and make him super suspicious?

That's assuming Matt is a C. Even if both X and matt are Cs then the Gs would definitely try to take out deneb first.

Man this is hard. The only votes that would give us some answers related to yesterday are JJ, X or Alen imo. If we lynch JJ and he's a C, then all people going for JJ are suspicious (including me I guess). If we lynch X and he's a C, Alen and Fred are suspicious. If we lynch Alen and he's a C, X is suspicious. If JJ is a G, Alen and Fred are suspicious. If Alen is a G we kill the Brain Bug. If X is a G people going for JJ seem suspicious again.

Going for someone outside of that trio will not give us much unless we hit a lucky strike.

I've excluded Fred because he's basically Alen2.0 in this situation but provided fewer posts during day 1.

If X is a G then imma kill him TBH though the only reason i initially thought X was a C was Alen just going for him without anything solid to back it up, Fred and Alen's behaviour at the deadline made me sure.

I am still waiting for @Fred to explain why he voted for X.

Nope. If Matt is a C it doesn't mean X is a g, at all.

Your argument about Woody is nonsensical. Can't believe it's you who's making that accusation.

Let's say both Matt and X are Cs. X is gonna die 30 mins to the deadline. Nothing is happening until i suggest the no lynch option and Fred starts trying (or pretending to) saving X. If both Matt and X are Cs, people involved in the voting should be probably all Cs so we can focus on Fresh, ALC, Maddy and the inactive players. That's why i prefer to vote ALC today.

EDIT: Ooops Alen is jailed

Why ALC instead of Fred, Alen or Matt?

I'm not opposed to lynching Alen

What do you think about Fred?