how can he when he is still injured? issues with his cartilage? - That may require another surgery
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You're not accounting for the variables here Hust. Consider that we have lost 2/3 of our most influential starters of the last 2-4 seasons. The other teams have strengthened considerably and the gap is arguably narrower than the last couple of seasons. Injuries to certain players can hit home harder than we expect, especially in what can safely be considered a transitional season.
As I mentioned before, Vidal sale left us with a hole in the midfield and we as a big club do not gamble to cover the hole with one two crocked player in Khedira and Asamoah. We don't know when Asa will return , he needs to gain match fitness and the injury could reoccur as its a massive injury. A sign of uncertainty,if we had a more reliable player instead of Khedira when it comes to injury we could manage it, but with both players uncertainties , we should have another CM.
If I'm not mistaken, Conte's first year was a "transitional year" and what did we witness? Massive squad changes, new formation and a future undefeated season.
A transitional year doesn't mean its going to be a losing one. In this case, its more of incorporating new young blood and letting go some of the older and set up the future puzzle pieces to build a sturdy team for long term ambitions.
Of course, to many, that went out the window when we sold Vidal.
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And you already know the answer. If you don't then you should because you know damn well that's not what I said.
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I'm most certainly not.
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Thank you.
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Oh, wait. Last year, a new coach, new formation...technically also a transitional year...and we won the double and a CL final
A transitional year doesn't mean its going to be a losing one. In this case, its more of incorporating new young blood and letting go some of the older and set up the future puzzle pieces to build a sturdy team for long term ambitions.
Of course, to many, that went out the window when we sold Vidal.
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And you already know the answer. If you don't then you should because you know damn well that's not what I said.
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I'm most certainly not.
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Thank you.
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Oh, wait. Last year, a new coach, new formation...technically also a transitional year...and we won the double and a CL final
Why do you keep relying to my question being an interpretation of what you said. Let me put it this way, do you think a transition season is a season where we end trophyless?
Let me ask you another question, usually we've had domestically one rival in our last 4 titles. Roma being a nuisance in our record breaking season until the last few weeks where they crashed. And last year where they were pretty much very far away. Let us not mention the other teams that were even further. My question is, do you honestly think we are still that much better than Roma that Serie A is in the bag? Not only because Roma closened the gap but because other teams have also become harder to beat.
Let me ask you another question, usually we've had domestically one rival in our last 4 titles. Roma being a nuisance in our record breaking season until the last few weeks where they crashed. And last year where they were pretty much very far away. Let us not mention the other teams that were even further. My question is, do you honestly think we are still that much better than Roma that Serie A is in the bag? Not only because Roma closened the gap but because other teams have also become harder to beat.
This is based on a very questionable assumption of us winning the scudetto and making CL QF. If that were to happen, I would say we have for all practical purposes achieved our objectives (needless to say I'd be overjoyed). Unfotunatelty not seeing it play out as simply as that my man. If the mercato closed today, I honestly see us fighting hard for second place. A fit Asamoah would've given me a bit more certsinty, but the midfield is one more 2 month injury away from losing the engine required for a title winning run.
And if Vidal was sacrificed for an AM, then that discussion needs to close too. I want us to close this mercsto on a high, and hopefully one of Draxler/Goetze will help us do that even from an image point of view, along with stayi injury free and adapting to the team quickly. Still not convinced going with Draxler, and I'd still be underwhelmed if he was our marquee signing. But that's me.
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Conte's first season was indeed a transitional one, but also because we had a new coach with new ideas etc. What happened in that year and season, should not be compared with where the team is today. We were coming off two seventh place finishes. The motivations were far different then, than they are today. That team purely triumphed on spirit ably led by Conte's attitude, and he made each one of the players imbibe his belief and energy. The coach, players came together in an almost symbiotic, pre-destined manner, and it really is the stuff of legend. Please don't expect that to happen in every transitional cycle because it will not. Keep in mind, before Conte, even Del Neri was a transition.
What happened with Allegri's arrival as new coach, could also be considered a season along the same lines. But you had Tevez, Vidal and to a lesser extent Pirlo to make that transition what it turned out to be. Again, if you expect it all to be as simple, it really isn't. Consider that the competition have moved well on the mercsto, there is not as much disparity between teams as there were last season, and we haven't really seen Allegri face a crisis situation yet at Juve. He's a great tactician, but he's not a man manager, and when the pressure is on, you need a combination of that, alongside some leaders on the pitch to pull you through. We've lost too much in the off season and not replaced their weight on the field, or in the dressing room. So when we are missing that, and have some need gaps that are still being looked into, I'd say we are losing a bit of the initiative that we carried forward winning season after winning season.
And if Vidal was sacrificed for an AM, then that discussion needs to close too. I want us to close this mercsto on a high, and hopefully one of Draxler/Goetze will help us do that even from an image point of view, along with stayi injury free and adapting to the team quickly. Still not convinced going with Draxler, and I'd still be underwhelmed if he was our marquee signing. But that's me.
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If I'm not mistaken, Conte's first year was a "transitional year" and what did we witness? Massive squad changes, new formation and a future undefeated season.
Oh, wait. Last year, a new coach, new formation...technically also a transitional year...and we won the double and a CL final
Oh, wait. Last year, a new coach, new formation...technically also a transitional year...and we won the double and a CL final
What happened with Allegri's arrival as new coach, could also be considered a season along the same lines. But you had Tevez, Vidal and to a lesser extent Pirlo to make that transition what it turned out to be. Again, if you expect it all to be as simple, it really isn't. Consider that the competition have moved well on the mercsto, there is not as much disparity between teams as there were last season, and we haven't really seen Allegri face a crisis situation yet at Juve. He's a great tactician, but he's not a man manager, and when the pressure is on, you need a combination of that, alongside some leaders on the pitch to pull you through. We've lost too much in the off season and not replaced their weight on the field, or in the dressing room. So when we are missing that, and have some need gaps that are still being looked into, I'd say we are losing a bit of the initiative that we carried forward winning season after winning season.
