Juan Cuadrado (29 Viewers)

[Bianconero_Aus]

Basically this guy failed TWICE at scoring the goals that would've made us get past bayern... I'd refuse to redeem him for more than 10 million

Yet another moronic post from the Indonesian Cronios.

 

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[Nzoric]

Indonesian Cronios

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Indonesian Cronios

I've missed you, sweety

 

[Nzoric]

U2 honeyboo, the next three months I'll just lurk around. After that Im back with a vengeance.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

U2 honeyboo, the next three months I'll just lurk around. After that Im back with a vengeance.

I'll be waiting 4 U.

 

[rakib567]

 

[il brutto]

Really hope he stays with us. Offers so much to our team in terms of tactical flexibility and technical ability.

 

[j0ker]

If he stays and we keep playing 3-5-2 there is no need to go after a RWB/RB.

 

[InterMerda]

If he stays and we keep playing 3-5-2 there is no need to go after a RWB/RB.

True but he's not staying.

 

[il brutto]

True but he's not staying.

I don't see him wanting to go back to Chelsea.

 

[InterMerda]

I don't see him wanting to go back to Chelsea.

If Conte wants him, we're fucked tho

 

[baggio]

Why is that? Unlike in the Morata deal, the players will has greater leverage in this scenario, and I'm pretty certain he prefers Torino after the season he had. It will come down to the number Chelsea want for him that Juve will have to negotiate and hope that he and his entourage stay as strong in ensuring he can hold out for what he wants.

 

[il brutto]

If Conte wants him, we're $#@!ed tho

Conte can want Cuadrado all he wants but if our magnificent Afro speedster isn't keen on elder men with wigs Antonio will need to find other ways to please his desires.

 

[zizinho]

If he stays and we keep playing 3-5-2 there is no need to go after a RWB/RB.

Yes but if Licht gets injured we can't play a 4 man defense. Thats why a Caceres like signing, someone who can be a CB with 3 at the back and RB with 4 at the back would be good to have

 

[Ocelot]

Why is that? Unlike in the Morata deal, the players will has greater leverage in this scenario, and I'm pretty certain he prefers Torino after the season he had. It will come down to the number Chelsea want for him that Juve will have to negotiate and hope that he and his entourage stay as strong in ensuring he can hold out for what he wants.

How has he more leverage than Morata with Real? Both could be forced back against their will easily from a legal point of view.

 

[Vlad]

How has he more leverage than Morata with Real? Both could be forced back against their will easily from a legal point of view.

Cuad isnt their youth product, no emotional attachment with Chelsea at all. If anything he had very bad spell in England. He could break all ties with them, force his way out, while Morata seems reluctant and likely to vacillate more than Cuad.

 

[Hydde]

Cuad isnt their youth product, no emotional attachment with Chelsea at all. If anything he had very bad spell in England. He could break all ties with them, force his way out, while Morata seems reluctant and likely to vacillate more than Cuad.

Not about emotional POV..... the main reason the morata deal is troublesome is the clause.

IN Cuadrados case...we have no option on him so he will inevitably return to chelsea, more likely if conte asks for him...BUT h doesnt have a clause and if he is willing to stay with us and reject chelsea..we can negotiate with them. The bad thing is that Chelsea still has his contract so we will most likely have to offload the bucks for him.

 

[Ocelot]

Cuad isnt their youth product, no emotional attachment with Chelsea at all. If anything he had very bad spell in England. He could break all ties with them, force his way out, while Morata seems reluctant and likely to vacillate more than Cuad.

Yeah I was actually gonna add that but got lazy

But that doesn't mean that Cuadrado has any more leverage, simply that Morata doesn't prefer Juve as much as Cuadrado does (or might do, we don't know shit really).

 

[Vlad]

Not about emotional POV..... the main reason the morata deal is troublesome is the clause.

IN Cuadrados case...we have no option on him so he will inevitably return to chelsea, more likely if conte asks for him...BUT h doesnt have a clause and if he is willing to stay with us and reject chelsea..we can negotiate with them. The bad thing is that Chelsea still has his contract so we will most likely have to offload the bucks for him.

Yeah I was actually gonna add that but got lazy

But that doesn't mean that Cuadrado has any more leverage, simply that Morata doesn't prefer Juve as much as Cuadrado does (or might do, we don't know shit really).

You're right, no legal leverage whatsoever in those deals for us. Both players are under contract with their former clubs and if Real pays the clause Morata has no say. It's even worse in Cuad's case since it's just a plain loan deal. But what I'm counting on is emotional attachment which in Cuadrado's case can give us some leverage, not legally, but football players aren't exactly robots. His best years were in Italy, then upon returning he found his game again and his form this year is as closest to his Viola days as it can get. However we cannot count on that Morata will turn his back on his childhood club. The fact that he signed an extension before moving here, suggests he reckoned on possibility to move back, maybe even desired. The guy grew up supporting Real, wanted to be the next Raul (although he's a bit like more technical version of Morientes imo) and if Real can grant him a spot he's goner. In any case I hope Real aren't that serious with Morata and will accept additional payment.

 

[Ocelot]

You're right, no legal leverage whatsoever in those deals for us. Both players are under contract with their former clubs and if Real pays the clause Morata has no say. It's even worse in Cuad's case since it's just a plain loan deal. But what I'm counting on is emotional attachment which in Cuadrado's case can give us some leverage, not legally, but football players aren't exactly robots. His best years were in Italy, then upon returning he found his game again and his form this year is as closest to his Viola days as it can get. However we cannot count on that Morata will turn his back on his childhood club. The fact that he signed an extension before moving here, suggests he reckoned on possibility to move back, maybe even desired. The guy grew up supporting Real, wanted to be the next Raul (although he's a bit like more technical version of Morientes imo) and if Real can grant him a spot he's goner. In any case I hope Real aren't that serious with Morata and will accept additional payment.

Yeah I think we pretty much agree here.

Just disagreed with baggio on his post because Morata & Cuadrado have pretty much the same amount of leverage imo - difference is, Cuadrado has a much higher probability to actually use that leverage to the fullest extent, as compared to Morata.