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Klovn

#MakeTuzGreatAgain
Jul 28, 2011
21,859
Oh sure, ban our stadium. When we played Lazio in Rome both Pogba and Asa were the target of racist chants and yet there were no talks of banning the Olimpico. How Lazio is still allowed to play in front of their home crowd is baffling.
Because unlike Lazio, we've got serveral fines and warnings.
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
Premium
May 22, 2009
9,642
Media are emphasizing this problem lately. It's like they want our stadium to be banned at all cost. If anything Juventus are an example in Italy with a number of anti racism programs in which we participate. Every time after we get fined I read headlines in Italian press like "solo ammenda ala Juve" or something like that. If they want to make an example of someone, they should look at Lazio's fan. I mean up until recently they've been racially abusing their own players.
I'm against any kind of discrimination but somehow I feel like we are taking all the heat.

http://www.tuttosport.com/calcio/se...ccuse+di+razzismo,+la+Juve+prende+le+distanze
Yes, the media puts some emphasis on us every now and again, but that's that is to be expected considering our recent past.

Also, you should be aware that the actual punishments we're receiving (the fines) are similar to what other clubs are receiving.


Because unlike Lazio, we've got serveral fines and warnings.
You really shouldn't spread lies.
 

Klovn

#MakeTuzGreatAgain
Jul 28, 2011
21,859
Yes, the media puts some emphasis on us every now and again, but that's that is to be expected considering our recent past.

Also, you should be aware that the actual punishments we're receiving (the fines) are similar to what other clubs are receiving.




You really shouldn't spread lies.
Lazio may have gotten a few more than i notice, but Juve is the club who has been fined most this season. Actually double of what the second place holds IIRC.
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
Premium
May 22, 2009
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Lazio may have gotten a few more than i notice, but Juve is the club who has been fined most this season. Actually double of what the second place holds IIRC.
Let's put things in perspective: we were fined 30.000€ after the Milan game, Lazio was fined 30.000€ after the game with us.

We should really stop with all the "they're out to get us" & "we're the only ones that are punished" crap. We probably have been fined the most so far. That's fair enough if you ask me, considering some of our more mentally challenged fans refuse to learn their lesson.


Would be interesting to compare all teams though, I'll get on that :D
 

Nzoric

Grazie Mirko
Jan 16, 2011
35,577
Let's put things in perspective: we were fined 30.000€ after the Milan game, Lazio was fined 30.000€ after the game with us.

We should really stop with all the "they're out to get us" & "we're the only ones that are punished" crap. We probably have been fined the most so far. That's fair enough if you ask me, considering some of our more mentally challenged fans refuse to learn their lesson.


Would be interesting to compare all teams though, I'll get on that :D
You go get em Buckie :p
 

Klovn

#MakeTuzGreatAgain
Jul 28, 2011
21,859
Let's put things in perspective: we were fined 30.000€ after the Milan game, Lazio was fined 30.000€ after the game with us.

We should really stop with all the "they're out to get us" & "we're the only ones that are punished" crap. We probably have been fined the most so far. That's fair enough if you ask me, considering some of our more mentally challenged fans refuse to learn their lesson.


Would be interesting to compare all teams though, I'll get on that :D
This is exactly what i mean. If i understand Paul Poker's post correctly. Then he thinks we're the victims. I'm just saying that it's our own fault(well not entirely, Considering it's just a small group). Because we've done it many times and fined the most times this season. Unlike Lazio. So it's understandable that they are considering to close a home game for us.
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
Premium
May 22, 2009
9,642
You go get em Buckie :p
:hi:


This is what the "fans" have cost their teams so far this season. Both Serie A & Coppa games were taken into account. Also note that this does not only consist of home games. Clubs can & are often fined for problems caused by travelling fans.

Just further proof that we have some major issues in this regard.


Juventus: 275.000€
Inter: 143.000€
As Roma: 124.000€
Napoli: 104.000€
Lazio: 87.500€
Pescara: 66.000€
Atalanta: 55.500€
Catania: 50.000€
Genoa: 38.000€
Fiorentina: 37.500€
Bologna: 33.000€
Torino: 33.000€
Milan: 31.000€
Udinese: 11.000€
Palermo: 7.000€
Cagliari: 5.000€
Siena: 3.000€
Sampdoria, Chievo, Parma: 0
 

Vlad

Senior Member
May 23, 2011
19,499
Yes, the media puts some emphasis on us every now and again, but that's that is to be expected considering our recent past.

Also, you should be aware that the actual punishments we're receiving (the fines) are similar to what other clubs are receiving.
What recent past? You sound like we were part of KKK. And I hardly doubt the others are receiving the same punishments.

:hi:


This is what the "fans" have cost their teams so far this season. Both Serie A & Coppa games were taken into account. Also note that this does not only consist of home games. Clubs can & are often fined for problems caused by travelling fans.

Just further proof that we have some major issues in this regard.


Juventus: 275.000€
Inter: 143.000€
As Roma: 124.000€
Napoli: 104.000€
Lazio: 87.500€
Pescara: 66.000€
Atalanta: 55.500€
Catania: 50.000€
Genoa: 38.000€
Fiorentina: 37.500€
Bologna: 33.000€
Torino: 33.000€
Milan: 31.000€
Udinese: 11.000€
Palermo: 7.000€
Cagliari: 5.000€
Siena: 3.000€
Sampdoria, Chievo, Parma: 0
More a proof of disparity in treatment. I can't believe that we have worse fans than Lazio or Napoli for example. How much was Napoli fined after our game when their fans were mentioning Heysel or Bologna when they were constantly insulting Agnelli's family? We are always the one to point a finger at whether good or bad.
 

JuveJay

Very Stable Genius
Moderator
Mar 6, 2007
63,952
:hi:


This is what the "fans" have cost their teams so far this season. Both Serie A & Coppa games were taken into account. Also note that this does not only consist of home games. Clubs can & are often fined for problems caused by travelling fans.

Just further proof that we have some major issues in this regard.


Juventus: 275.000€
Inter: 143.000€
As Roma: 124.000€
Napoli: 104.000€
Lazio: 87.500€
Pescara: 66.000€
Atalanta: 55.500€
Catania: 50.000€
Genoa: 38.000€
Fiorentina: 37.500€
Bologna: 33.000€
Torino: 33.000€
Milan: 31.000€
Udinese: 11.000€
Palermo: 7.000€
Cagliari: 5.000€
Siena: 3.000€
Sampdoria, Chievo, Parma: 0
We have an obvious problem, although the figures for Lazio remind me of the naughty kid at school. After getting hammered by the teachers for a while they got a longer leash, and have to do something pretty bad to get in trouble.

The end result is a fair reflection but not completely accurate, I'm not good with remembering games but there were at least two where you could hear monkey chants towards Pogba and Asamoah, where I don't believe the opposing club were given fines. Other examples would be offensive songs sung about Juve, which we have also been punished for.

Personally I blame our acoustically superior stadium.
 
Feb 12, 2006
56,929
:hi:


This is what the "fans" have cost their teams so far this season. Both Serie A & Coppa games were taken into account. Also note that this does not only consist of home games. Clubs can & are often fined for problems caused by travelling fans.

Just further proof that we have some major issues in this regard.


Juventus: 275.000€
Inter: 143.000€
As Roma: 124.000€
Napoli: 104.000€
Lazio: 87.500€
Pescara: 66.000€
Atalanta: 55.500€
Catania: 50.000€
Genoa: 38.000€
Fiorentina: 37.500€
Bologna: 33.000€
Torino: 33.000€
Milan: 31.000€
Udinese: 11.000€
Palermo: 7.000€
Cagliari: 5.000€
Siena: 3.000€
Sampdoria, Chievo, Parma: 0
no top player :cry:
 

Buck Fuddy

Lara Chedraoui fanboy
Premium
May 22, 2009
9,642
I wonder how much of 275K was for racist chanting?
Screw you, I'm not going through all the info again :D

But they do always mention the exact reason(s) why clubs are fined. And yes, racism is usually part of it.


What recent past? You sound like we were part of KKK. And I hardly doubt the others are receiving the same punishments.

More a proof of disparity in treatment. I can't believe that we have worse fans than Lazio or Napoli for example. How much was Napoli fined after our game when their fans were mentioning Heysel or Bologna when they were constantly insulting Agnelli's family? We are always the one to point a finger at whether good or bad.
Sure.

I'm objective enough to realise that, in terms of racial abuse, we have the worst fans. Lazio, Napoli or Inter fans will lower themselves a few times a season (especially when playing us, for example). Our fans on the other hand do it on an almost weekly basis. Hell, they are singing that well known Balotelli song when we play the likes of Catania, Udinese & others. (And no, I'm not interested in debating whether or not that is racism. It has been made clear that it will be treated as racism & that's all that matters.)

But hey, everyone is free to play the "everyone is against us" card.


We have an obvious problem, although the figures for Lazio remind me of the naughty kid at school. After getting hammered by the teachers for a while they got a longer leash, and have to do something pretty bad to get in trouble.

The end result is a fair reflection but not completely accurate, I'm not good with remembering games but there were at least two where you could hear monkey chants towards Pogba and Asamoah, where I don't believe the opposing club were given fines. Other examples would be offensive songs sung about Juve, which we have also been punished for.
If you'd remember the game(s), that could be verified. Otherwise, it's the same old "we get punished, they don't" type of stuff, which is based on nothing at all.

Funny thing when I was going through the fines: Teams seem to receive more/higher fines when playing against Juventus, compared to other games. For example Inter: more than 1/3 of their accumulated fines are due to Juve games.
 

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