[ITA] Serie A 2014/2015 (107 Viewers)

[ALC]

Fined by whom?

I assumed he was still involved with the FIGC or whatnot. Guess he's just an old man now.

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Far from it. Italy has its problems as does any country. Arguably their biggest is racism. But Belgium, Denmark and the UK also have huge problems when it comes to racism (I'm not even going to mention the USA - which is far worse than Italy).

The place with a black president is worse than Italy when it comes to racism? plz tell me more.

 

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[Raz]

And watch him not get fined for a statement like that. All of eastern Europe and Italy have this same mentality and it really needs to change if they want to keep up with the rest of the more developed nations. The Balkans are fucked on a whole other level tho.

American talking this... you're a legend.

 

[JuveJay]

The stupid thing about Sacchi's comments is that a lot of these 'black players' qualify for Italy when they are 18, there are a lot of African immigrants in youth teams now and most with dual nationality potential.

 

[Seven]

The place with a black president is worse than Italy when it comes to racism? plz tell me more.

A black president is not everything. Immigrants have it bad in Europe, but the subcutaneous racism in the States is horrible. You have entire categories of people who only seem to qualify for dead end jobs. Not to mention that no one categorises better than Americans do.

In fact, when I think about it, that's probably the worst of it all in the States.

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The stupid thing about Sacchi's comments is that a lot of these 'black players' qualify for Italy when they are 18, there are a lot of African immigrants in youth teams now and most with dual nationality potential.

Yes. The worst of it all is that he does not seem able to comprehend that a black person can be an Italian.

 

[ALC]

American talking this... you're a legend.

Am I wrong? No, I'm not.

A black president is not everything. Immigrants have it bad in Europe, but the subcutaneous racism in the States is horrible. You have entire categories of people who only seem to qualify for dead end jobs. Not to mention that no one categorises better than Americans do.

In fact, when I think about it, that's probably the worst of it all in the States.

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From what I see, people of all colors and religions have been able to establish themselves and gain positions of power in the US. In the places I mentioned in Europe, you'll see no such thing. Racism is openly accepted. Subcutaneous racism? If that were the case, is that somehow worse than being openly racist?

 

[only-juve]

From what I see, people of all colors and religions have been able to establish themselves and gain positions of power in the US. In the places I mentioned in Europe, you'll see no such thing. Racism is openly accepted. Subcutaneous racism? If that were the case, is that somehow worse than being openly racist?

Not to intervene here, but been to both Europe and the US and as a "foreigner" I see the US as much better less racist country than quiet a number of european countries.

 

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[Fred]

The US far worse than Italy when it comes to racism? That's hard to believe.

The FIGC's new president, didn't he make some insanely racist comment and still got the position, I don't see that happening in the UK or the US.

 

[JuveJay]

The US far worse than Italy when it comes to racism? That's hard to believe.

The FIGC's new president, didn't he make some insanely racist comment and still got the position, I don't see that happening in the UK or the US.

The US seems less outwardly racist, at least in official positions and general society, but that's hardly surprising as you're going to get either beat down or lose your job being that way. Proximal socialisation suggests there will be pros and cons with latent racism. It's all ignorance, either way. Probably not worth character assassinating someone over, just educating.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

The US seems less outwardly racist, at least in official positions and general society, but that's hardly surprising as you're going to get either beat down or lose your job being that way. Proximal socialisation suggests there will be pros and cons with latent racism. It's all ignorance, either way. Probably not worth character assassinating someone over, just educating.

 

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Thai investor Bee Taechaubol has tabled an offer worth close to €1 billion to acquire a majority stake in AC Milan.

Club president Silvio Berlusconi's holding company, Fininvest, stated on Monday they had held no talks with any potential investors and categorically denied they are ready to sell the club.

But, Taechaubol has claimed he made an official offer and even went on to predict that the deal could be completed as early as March.

"The reports are all true. I have presented an offer to acquire a majority stake in AC Milan," the Thai investor told Bangkok Post.

"My offer has an overall value of just under €1bn.

"The deal could come into effect by October. I'm now awaiting a response from Berlusconi. I am ready to close the deal by the end of the month."

Taechaubol then went on to stress that he has already outlined his plans to the Milan president and is confident of conquering the Asian market.

"I have presented a clear development project with a detailed plan for each major city in Asia. I am convinced the brand 'AC Milan' has a tremendous value in a market where we want to strengthen our position," he added to La Repubblica.

"My proposal is serious and solid. Talks with Berlusconi were very serene and quite pleasant."

Taechaubol would become the second Asian businessman to take charge of one of Serie A's top clubs after Indonesian investor Erick Thohir previously acquired Inter.

 

[Valerio.]

Not long ago in Italy we had IUS SANGUINIS.
which stated that you're italian if you're born from italian parents.
Nowdays politicians want to change it into IUS SOLI which make foreigners and their sons can gain the status of italian citizenship.
Either way high majority of italian population are against Ius Soli.

 

[Elvin]

Any kind of investment to Milan is bad news.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Whether this is good news or bad for Juve, such move will/would improve the quality of Serie A and infrastructure of the country.

It would also, most likely, force our owners to pump in more money to compete with them eventually.

 

[alexjuventino]

Look at inter though, Thohir barely made any changes. Not saying its necessarily the same but, the club is so far behind that you need a lot of fucking money to make any change

 

[Elvin]

yeah, but not to Milan

 

[Seven]

Am I wrong? No, I'm not.



From what I see, people of all colors and religions have been able to establish themselves and gain positions of power in the US. In the places I mentioned in Europe, you'll see no such thing. Racism is openly accepted. Subcutaneous racism? If that were the case, is that somehow worse than being openly racist?

There are also fewer black people in Eastern Europe and Italy and most of them have been there for one or two generations at most.

And yes, subcutaneous racism can be just as bad as open racism if the net effect is the same. Black people aren't whipped in Italy you know. If there is open racism, it's the kind of racism we saw from Sacchi.

What makes the USA particularly bad is this false idea of the American Dream. That's just obnoxious.

 

[Hust]

Sacchi lost any credibility I had for him.

What an idiot. No different than Lotito with his open stupidity.

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What makes the USA particularly bad is this false idea of the American Dream. That's just obnoxious.

Why is it false and how does that make the US bad?

 

[Maddy]

Far from it. Italy has its problems as does any country. Arguably their biggest is racism. But Belgium, Denmark and the UK also have huge problems when it comes to racism (I'm not even going to mention the USA - which is far worse than Italy).

Denmark and huge problems? Interesting.

I guess most other countries in the World have gigantic problems with racism.

 

[Seven]

Why is it false and how does that make the US bad?

Because it's not true. The USA has as little social mobility as any European country. But we don't consistently state that if you fail it's your own damn fault. We acknowledge that socio-economic factors might complicate your dream.

Somehow Americans are indoctrinated by this idea that if they just work hard enough, good things will happen. Well, working hard does not mean shit. Sorry.