[ITA] Serie A 2008/2009 (42 Viewers)

[Martin]

It's boring. It's fine when you're in the UN, but it's useless around here.

I just realized I should have asked you this 5 years ago

So what's so fun about conflict?

 

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[Marc]

You're fucking with me or you're serious?
Because it will take me at least 20 minutes and if you don't seriously want to know then please tell me now instead of letting me type all that shit.

I want to know. Do it!

 

[Osman]

Hey, everyone doesnt need to be Mr Nice guy for you to like em or appriciate them Bianconero is a pretentious boring toss at times and Seven is a huge dickhead in some topics (haha prolly takes it as a compliment), but doesnt mean you would solely be hung up and judge them on that alone (looking at you my generally forgiving and cool amigo, Fred ), and not instead find them ze decent and sensible dudes they are in overall...deep deep down


Not sure why I said that about Bianconero btw, hehe, dont think so myself, but some others do, and somehow I get why they do (one of them being the huge dickhead Seven, and prolly thinks ze same of me hehe) even if I dont mind. What I mind though for example is the HORRID sense of humour virtual has Though I shouldnt judge people for things they cant help)

 

[Seven]

I just realized I should have asked you this 5 years ago

So what's so fun about conflict?

Makes you feel alive I suppose. Nah, seriously, conflict usually gets you further than getting along. That is, in small groups of persons.

 

[Red]

It was about time someone threw in another platitude.

Well, why can't folk just go along abusing and annoying each other in peace instead of kicking up a fuss about it?

 

[Seven]

Well, why can't folk just go along abusing and annoying each other in peace instead of kicking up a fuss about it?

True. In fact I think that everyone's automatic response to cries such as snoop's should be: grow up, you pussy.

 

[Fred]

I just realized I should have asked you this 5 years ago

So what's so fun about conflict?

Dialectics.

 

[Snoop]

Cant believe you just asked that, due to your very strong paranoid reaction. I usually understand when someone feels targetted(like you were a bit in your past bickering with Rab or Jack), because it can tend to get overboard, even if its those I disagree wtih or dont like (like for example Lampard, virtual, Cronios being extra hounded even if they deserve some because provoke it etc), but really, this just way too sensitive and overboard IMO. Alen isnt an angel or anything (anyone can be antagonistic from time to time, it happens, nothing personal), seriously, you need to relax and not read into it being more then different opinions, and somehow be open hostility and grudges from past grudges.

No offense, but it really comes of very paranoid and unnecessary. I know you are perhaps accostumed to thinking like thise due to past childish conflicts (as said, for example with Rab that was all over the place and carried to whatever the topic etc), and that the pattern would fit due to it. But you really need to relax and realise not everyone is the same, or are after you personally or helds a grudge the same as someone else, regardless of whatever disagreement you may have.

I know its not of my bussiness, but just had to say it, I like you as a poster, but reacting like that over that post, and a couple of disagreements of how the club is run (its natural, doesnt need to be carried over to other topics, or anything to hold a grudge over), is quite overboard, and reading into something thats not there. IMO you are pre-judging Alen in a way, because of how you are used to dealing with others you have had difficulty with before, not everyone are the same thats all, and nothing everything is about grudges and vaguely putting you down because of some hostility towards you. It can be as simple as he simply disagrees in some things, and NOTHING more to it IMO, seriously consider that for a second please.


P.S Sorry if this post comes off patronising, not my intention whatsoever, but I somehow relate to what would make you feel like this, but as an outsider, just wanted to share how it can be unnecessary so, and simply be about being carried by ones emotions.

I told you, it might look I am overreacting here, but it is not true. This is going for weeks, he was kinda hostile with me, and I was always quiet, and it was going to get worse if I didn't open up my thoughts like this right now. You or others might not understand my reaction, because you don't know exactly what is going on between us the past weeks. And I am not going to search posts to prove anything, that's not necessary at all..

Before calling me a paranoid, you can ask Juve-Baby for what she told me yesterday on msn? She asked me "what is going on between you and Alen?", and my reply was, "nothing, we are just discussing/arguing on something" "I asked her did he tell you anything?" I mean I was surprised, because I had nothing against him at all, never thought about it that way.. She asked that because she reads all my posts. I didn't react like this against Alen until today's post. I mean come on, you can see the way he replied, it's only pages back. what was that "Got it?" about.

I am not comparing him with my case with Rab at all(I hate to see Rab or Jack involved in this, I hope they excuse me, I have no problems with them at all now). I am not complaining about Alen, I loved him, I still do, it was just a deserved reaction that's all, and I am sure it won't get any further, don't want that..

 

[Alen]

Yeah. It's the one thing I don't like about Alen.

Too bad. I like everything about you.

Edit: Actually, this is exactly what you're talking about, right? It's this diplomacy that you don't like?
In this case, the only thing you don't like about me is that i like everything about you.

 

[Martin]

Makes you feel alive I suppose. Nah, seriously, conflict usually gets you further than getting along. That is, in small groups of persons.

Does it? I'd rather say the opposite. As long as you keep people in a state of mind where they're still willing to interact you still have an open channel of communication. And thus you can be as persuasive as you want to be.

But once they decide that Seven is a jackass and I don't respect what he says, all he does is taunt me, what do you achieve then?

 

[Seven]

I told you, it might look I am overreacting here, but it is not true. This is going for weeks, he was kinda hostile with me, and I was always quiet, and it was going to get worse if I didn't open up my thoughts like this right now. You or others might not understand my reaction, because you don't know exactly what is going on between us the past weeks. And I am not going to search posts to prove anything, that's not necessary at all..

Before calling me a paranoid, you can ask Juve-Baby for what she told me yesterday on msn? She asked me "what is going on between you and Alen?", and my reply was, "nothing, we are just discussing/arguing on something" "I asked her did he tell you anything?" I mean I was surprised, because I had nothing against him at all, never thought about it that way.. She asked that because she reads all my posts. I didn't react like this against Alen until today's post. I mean come on, you can see the way he replied, it's only pages back. what was that "Got it?" about.

I am not comparing him with my case with Rab at all(I hate to see Rab or Jack involved in this, I hope they excuse me, I have no problems with them at all now). I am not complaining about Alen, I loved him, I still do, it was just a deserved reaction that's all, and I am sure it won't get any further, don't want that..

Snoop, I like you man, but my gaydar is all red.

 

[Seven]

Too bad. I like everything about you.

Edit: Actually, this is exactly what you're talking about, right? It's this diplomacy that you don't like?
In this case, the only thing you don't like about me is that i like everything about you.

Dear god, you could be one of my girlfriends.

Does it? I'd rather say the opposite. As long as you keep people in a state of mind where they're still willing to interact you still have an open channel of communication. And thus you can be as persuasive as you want to be.

But once they decide that Seven is a jackass and I don't respect what he says, all he does is taunt me, what do you achieve then?

If they're not smart enough to keep answering to the point, I don't consider them at all. I couldn't care less about them then.

 

[Snoop]

Snoop, I like you man, but my gaydar is all red.

Yeah I felt that too after I read my own post

 

[Martin]

Too bad. I like everything about you.

Edit: Actually, this is exactly what you're talking about, right? It's this diplomacy that you don't like?
In this case, the only thing you don't like about me is that i like everything about you.

What I find slightly disturbing is how being in a place like this over time I realize I like pretty much everyone. And that's a very far cry from where I would stand if it was a direct in person interaction, where people's way of being pisses other people off almost immediately.

 

[Seven]

What I find slightly disturbing is how being in a place like this over time I realize I like pretty much everyone. And that's a very far cry from where I would stand if it was a direct in person interaction, where people's way of being pisses other people off almost immediately.

Ugh. How is that even possible?

 

[Martin]

Ugh. How is that even possible?

I don't know. And I can assure you that in real life I don't like all that many people at all.

 

[Osman]

Beeh, you are boring Martin, usually dont bother judging someone entirely so, but pretty sure I would think Someone, Juve revolution and some others are total retards regardless of whatever way I would meet them (or finding turk too chidlish etc etc). You dont like em all, you dont know them all.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

WTF!!!???????!!!! :frown:

somebody forgot to take their meds... no but seriously i dont see how he coulda seen it as condescending but i will thank you for him and the rest of us, thanks!

 

[king Ale]

Don't want to sound arrogant or anything, but so do i

It's coming from you is a bit strange though. I mean, you are an outsider here but you still are getting along with other members.

 

[Seven]

No, he isn't. Why does everyone think that?