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[Rollie]

Motta= Italian Sergio Ramos he'll be good trust me

Motta and Ramos are the same age... but one is a mainstay in a very good Madrid squad as well as a European/World Champion... while the other was just signed on loan, with an option to buy for 5ME. There's probably some 20-25ME difference in their valuation.

I have some hope that Motta can improve, but he's been brutal on the defensive side of things, and he's nowhere near as good as Ramos going forward.

No disrespect Kasaki, but this is not a fair comparison, so maybe you were joking?

 

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[Alen]

this season we will see a itajuve surely.. a opposite of inter milan..

I wonder if that was the intention. It might have been. Inter won with non-Italians but we win with Italians, we are Italian football and bring glory to Italy.
That's a sweet thought and I can't help thinking that someone in our board was attracted by it.

 

[Alen]

Juventus (17 Italians- 8 non-Italians --- 8/9 Italian starters)
Starting XI: Buffon; Motta, Bonucci, Chiellini, De Ceglie; Krasic, Melo, Marchisio, Pepe; Del Piero, Amauri.
Bench: Storari; Grygera, Legrottaglie, Rinaudo, Traore; Martinez, Sissoko, Aquilani, Lanzafame; Iaquinta, Quagliarella.
3rd choice players: Manninger, Salihamidzic, Grosso.

Milan: (13 Italians- 12 non-Italians --- 5 Italian starters)
Starting XI: Amelia; Papastathopoulos, Nesta, Silva, Zambrotta; Pirlo, Seedorf, Ambrosini ; Ronaldinho, Zlatan, Pato
Bench: Abbiati; Oddo, Bonera, Oguchi, Antonini; Gattuso, Flamini, Boateng, Abate; Robinho, Inzaghi
3rd choice players: Roma, Jankulovski, Yepes

Inter: (4 Italians, 21 non-Italians --- 0 Italian starters)
Starting XI: Cesar; Maicon, Samuel, Lucio, Zanetti; Cambiaso, Thiago Motta; Pandev, Sneijder; Eto'o; Milito.
Bench: Castellazzi; Santon, Cordoba, Materazzi, Chivu; Stankovic, Muntari, Mariga, Mancini; Coutinho, Biabiany.
3rd choice players: Orlandoni; Rivas, Suazo.

Roma: (8 Italians- 17 non-Italians --- 4 Italian starters)
Starting XI: Lobont; Cassetti, Juan, Burdisso, Riise; Pizarro, De Rossi, Perrotta; Totti, Vucinic, Menez.
Bench: Julio Sergio; Cicinho, Mexes, G. Burdisso, Antunes; Taddei, Simplicio, Brighi; Baptista, Adriano, Borriello.
3rd choice players: Doni, Castellini, Okaka.
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So I get it that we're an Italian team that needs a lot of Italians. Why don't the best 3 Italian teams atm think and function the same way?

 

[king Ale]

There is not a big difference between Juve and Milan with regard to the number of Italians in the squad. The difference is that their world class players who make Milan a Scudetto contender are not Italian but can we afford having the likes of Ronaldinho in our team?

 

[Alen]

There is not a big difference between Juve and Milan with regard to the number of Italians in the squad. The difference is that their world class players who make Milan a Scudetto contender are not Italian but can we afford having the likes of Ronaldinho in our team?

There still isn't a big difference. But you know what makes me think that the difference will become even bigger?
They bought 5 players and all of them (Robinho, Zlatan, Boateng, Sokratis and Yepes) are non-Italian, while some of those they got rid of (Favalli, Borriello, Storari etc) were Italian and the next in line to get rid of (Inzaghi and the likes) are Italian.

We're doing the opposite.

 

[Martin]

Maybe they would let us have Zambrotta?

 

[only-juve]

So I get it that we're an Italian team that needs a lot of Italians. Why don't the best 3 Italian teams atm think and function the same way?

Because they're being logical and they know that there is less quality Italian players in the league at the moment. So why overspend on "mostly" average players when you can get better quality players (foreigners) for faar less money?

Inter have always had that "foreigners approach" But Ac milan always had that base of italian players (just like us) so why aren't they buying those young italian players anymore?

Because they can get the best defender (by far) from the Brazilian league for 9 millions while we just spent 15 millions on someone who is probably not even the best defender in his own team like Bonucci (not bashing the guy cause i rate him) but is he really twice better than thiago silva for example?

Just something to think about...

 

[king Ale]

Apart from Robinho and Zlatan, I don't see why we should envy them getting the likes of Yepes and Boateng.

 

[Alen]

Apart from Robinho and Zlatan, I don't see why we should envy them getting the likes of Yepes and Boateng.

Why did you change the subject?

And that is one huge "apart from" that you used up there.

 

[king Ale]

I know, that's for sure. I just think we can't financially afford such big names in our team.

 

[Kasaki]

Motta and Ramos are the same age... but one is a mainstay in a very good Madrid squad as well as a European/World Champion... while the other was just signed on loan, with an option to buy for 5ME. There's probably some 20-25ME difference in their valuation.

I have some hope that Motta can improve, but he's been brutal on the defensive side of things, and he's nowhere near as good as Ramos going forward.

No disrespect Kasaki, but this is not a fair comparison, so maybe you were joking?

I'm sorry but sergio ramos can't defend worth shit. I was perhaps exaggerating, but sergio is more a winger then defender

 

[Alen]

Players bought by teams this summer (Only the 25 men squad):

Juventus: 11 (8 Italians- 3 non-Italians)
Roma: 7 (2 Italians- 5 non-Italians)
Milan: 5 (0 Italians - 5 non-Italians)
Inter 3 (1 Italian - 2 non-Italians)

 

[only-juve]

Players bought by teams this summer (Only the 25 men squad):

Juventus: 11 (8 Italians- 3 non-Italians)
Roma: 7 (2 Italians- 5 non-Italians)
Milan: 6 (0 Italians - 6 non-Italians)
Inter 3 (1 Italian - 2 non-Italians)

Fixed, milan just signed yet another "foreigner"

young Uruguayan defender Coates

 

[Hust]

What about these new rules? What are they going to do next year? I'm confused how they will be able to function on the transfer market, especially with the non EU rule. I thought the whole point was to push italians in their teams but all they will do is buy from European countries anyways.

 

[Alen]

Fixed, milan just signed yet another "foreigner"

young Uruguayan defender Coates

I saw that but I didn't know if he'll be part of the 25 men CL squad so I didn't count him just like I didn't count some other youngsters Juve, Inter, Milan and Roma brought. (Milan also has a couple of African kids who get an occasional chance to play, but I decided not to count those since they can play for the primavera too).

 

[JCK]

 

[king Ale]

Bored?

 

[JCK]

Well, isn't it getting boring?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

I saw that but I didn't know if he'll be part of the 25 men CL squad so I didn't count him just like I didn't count some other youngsters Juve, Inter, Milan and Roma brought. (Milan also has a couple of African kids who get an occasional chance to play, but I decided not to count those since they can play for the primavera too).

 

[Gamaro]

Juventus (17 Italians- 8 non-Italians --- 8/9 Italian starters)
Starting XI: Buffon; Motta, Bonucci, Chiellini, De Ceglie; Krasic, Melo, Marchisio, Pepe; Del Piero, Amauri.
Bench: Storari; Grygera, Legrottaglie, Rinaudo, Traore; Martinez, Sissoko, Aquilani, Lanzafame; Iaquinta, Quagliarella.
3rd choice players: Manninger, Salihamidzic, Grosso.

Milan: (13 Italians- 12 non-Italians --- 5 Italian starters)
Starting XI: Amelia; Papastathopoulos, Nesta, Silva, Zambrotta; Pirlo, Seedorf, Ambrosini ; Ronaldinho, Zlatan, Pato
Bench: Abbiati; Oddo, Bonera, Oguchi, Antonini; Gattuso, Flamini, Boateng, Abate; Robinho, Inzaghi
3rd choice players: Roma, Jankulovski, Yepes

Inter: (4 Italians, 21 non-Italians --- 0 Italian starters)
Starting XI: Cesar; Maicon, Samuel, Lucio, Zanetti; Cambiaso, Thiago Motta; Pandev, Sneijder; Eto'o; Milito.
Bench: Castellazzi; Santon, Cordoba, Materazzi, Chivu; Stankovic, Muntari, Mariga, Mancini; Coutinho, Biabiany.
3rd choice players: Orlandoni; Rivas, Suazo.

Roma: (8 Italians- 17 non-Italians --- 4 Italian starters)
Starting XI: Lobont; Cassetti, Juan, Burdisso, Riise; Pizarro, De Rossi, Perrotta; Totti, Vucinic, Menez.
Bench: Julio Sergio; Cicinho, Mexes, G. Burdisso, Antunes; Taddei, Simplicio, Brighi; Baptista, Adriano, Borriello.
3rd choice players: Doni, Castellini, Okaka.
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So I get it that we're an Italian team that needs a lot of Italians. Why don't the best 3 Italian teams atm think and function the same way?

@ Amauri.