Israeli-Palestinian conflict (56 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

  • Yes

  • No


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Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
21,107
The pro-Israel people I know are really pushing hard that this is almost a gift to the Iranian people and they're all celebrating this. Oh and this. Thanks for the wonderful, charitable gift Israel :howler:

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Most people I know don’t give a shit if regime’s military sites are destroyed, and hence they ARE celebrating. Although it hasn’t hit their bottom line just yet. Tonight Israel bombed 2 oil depots in northwest and south of Tehran, and I imagine if attacks like these continue there’ll soon be fuel shortages followed by shortages in everything else.
Regardless of the shortages. One of the oil depots is in dense residential neighborhood, and 5 years ago a city council member warned it could cause a Beirut style catastrophe. While that hasn’t happened, thankfully, there probably be a large destruction of civilian property.
 

alaska

Senior Member
May 25, 2013
1,287
They talk about the Iranian people removing their government, how about the Israelis calling for the end to the war? I hope the IDF suffer and the Israelis drag Bibi's corpse through Jerusalem.
Unlike the Iranians, the Israelis can replace their government; by voting.
 

Mokku

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2019
2,814
Unlike the Iranians, the Israelis can replace their government; by voting.
Really? There have been many protests against the current government and the IDF seem to be silencing the people with a lot of force. Pretty much every Isreali official has lied on every topic, so it wouldn't surprise me if this baby killing regime silenced a few protesting Isrealis.
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
32,103
Most people I know don’t give a shit if regime’s military sites are destroyed, and hence they ARE celebrating. Although it hasn’t hit their bottom line just yet. Tonight Israel bombed 2 oil depots in northwest and south of Tehran, and I imagine if attacks like these continue there’ll soon be fuel shortages followed by shortages in everything else.
Regardless of the shortages. One of the oil depots is in dense residential neighborhood, and 5 years ago a city council member warned it could cause a Beirut style catastrophe. While that hasn’t happened, thankfully, there probably be a large destruction of civilian property.
I have no doubt that most Iranians want their government gone, but for them to imply that a foreign power bombing them and aiming to install some sympathetic government is an act to be celebrated is ludicrous.
 

Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
21,107
I have no doubt that most Iranians want their government gone, but for them to imply that a foreign power bombing them and aiming to install some sympathetic government is an act to be celebrated is ludicrous.
What I’m saying is that they will be celebrating until they realize it impacts them too, and not only top IRGC commanders.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
71,118
What I’m saying is that they will be celebrating until they realize it impacts them too, and not only top IRGC commanders.
Military sites getting destroyed will impact them too, there is no viable political alternative to the mullahs as bad as they are. Everyone in iran and everyone who loves iranians and despises the criminal state of israel should only be concerned about 2 things:

-Iran reeatablishing deterrence via devastating strikes within israel
-Iran acquiring nuclear weapons

I was against Iran getting nukes, but the alternative is much worse imo
 

Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
21,107
Military sites getting destroyed will impact them too, there is no viable political alternative to the mullahs as bad as they are. Everyone in iran and everyone who loves iranians and despises the criminal state of israel should only be concerned about 2 things:

-Iran reeatablishing deterrence via devastating strikes within israel
-Iran acquiring nuclear weapons

I was against Iran getting nukes, but the alternative is much worse imo
I meant in a short term basis. I disagree with the nukes part since it turns the country into a pariah state, much more than what it is now. But some sort of deterrence is necessary. People are starting to wake up to the reality that Israel won’t act in their best interests and enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend. It might be too late.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
71,118
I meant in a short term basis. I disagree with the nukes part since it turns the country into a pariah state, much more than what it is now. But some sort of deterrence is necessary. People are starting to wake up to the reality that Israel won’t act in their best interests and enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend. It might be too late.
Nukes are the only deterrent when it comes to israeli and american aggression, the only country in the axis of evil that never got bombed is the one with nukes. And tbh the only country id put my money on to ever use nukes is israel, so yeah every country around them should have nukes, at the very least iran, saudi, and turkey.
 

Fab Fragment

Senior Member
Dec 22, 2018
4,324
Pakistan and India having nukes is a good example of deterrence through the threat of MAD. They had a mini-war last month, but both were responsible enough to avoid hitting each other's nuclear sites.

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Nukes are the only deterrent when it comes to israeli and american aggression, the only country in the axis of evil that never got bombed is the one with nukes. And tbh the only country id put my money on to ever use nukes is israel, so yeah every country around them should have nukes, at the very least iran, saudi, and turkey.
Totally agree on this point.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
117,200
I can see why Holocaust denial is a thing these days. If you can't have an espresso or take an early morning walk, birds chirping and everything, without being reminded about what happened 80 years ago every minute of every waking day, perhaps it is better to just reject the notion it ever happened. It's like screaming "Fire!" in a theater just because the Brooklyn Theatre burned down in 1876, and now everyone needs to pay the price of it's reminder, all for sacrificing some stupid cow from Texas.
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,529
Israel targeted buildings and civilians in Tehran last night.

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I didnt check photo no`2 but it was a bit weird to see Gemini say this about the first picture:
The collapse of the "Metropole" building in the city of Abadan, Iran, which occurred on May 23, 2022.

This was indeed in Iran but was from 3 years ago. Can you please check your sources before uploading bullshit again

About the 2nd
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