Israeli-Palestinian conflict (68 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

  • Yes

  • No


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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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I've never seen support for them like this before here. I hope this leads to some actual change.

Pro-Palestinian demonstrators express frustration as they march through Astoria

https://abc7ny.com/palestinians-protest-israel-hamas-war-queens/13936846/
Hm.

I think in Europe Palestinians have plenty of support from the people, but Israel's political and economic power is so much stronger it doesn't really matter.

Popular support surely does not seem enough to change anything.

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Apr 12, 2004
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AFL_ITALIA

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Jun 17, 2011
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Hm.

I think in Europe Palestinians have plenty of support from the people, but Israel's political and economic power is so much stronger it doesn't really matter.

Popular support surely does not seem enough to change anything.

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That was never really the case here. It was usually either pro-Israel or just apathy. And maybe nothing changes overnight, it changes the discussion. How I'd love to see what the political discourse would've been like if this were election season...

I know so many people who hate the Hasid community there because they get their own cops and ambulances and shit. Plus, during COVID they were just doing whatever they wanted. Hasids are fucking clowns.
Yep, during COVID especially there was a lot of hate towards them for that reason.

Hatzolah is in a lot of orthodox communities now, not just Hasidic. They have their own court system too, which is absolutely ridiculous to me.

Pentagon says they were possibly heading towards Israel, along with drones.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us...-intercepted-projectiles-official-2023-10-19/

Yemen :howler:
 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
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Aug 27, 2008
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That was never really the case here. It was usually either pro-Israel or just apathy. And maybe nothing changes overnight, it changes the discussion. How I'd love to see what the political discourse would've been like if this were election season...


Yep, during COVID especially there was a lot of hate towards them for that reason.

Hatzolah is in a lot of orthodox communities now, not just Hasidic. They have their own court system too, which is absolutely ridiculous to me.


Pentagon says they were possibly heading towards Israel, along with drones.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us...-intercepted-projectiles-official-2023-10-19/

Yemen :howler:
Time to sell more weapons to the Saudis so that they can flatten Yemen to oblivion and the world (especially the Sunni arab world) looks the other way.
 

icemaη

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Aug 27, 2008
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why does the arab world care about the Palestinians but not the Yemenis? Are the Yemenis Shia?

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The Houthis are Shias. But the apathy has more to do with the fact that the bombing is being done by Saudi (and the UAE). Also, the other side is supported by Iran. Muslim on muslim crime if you will. It's in the best interest of everyone to turn a blind eye.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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Time to sell more weapons to the Saudis so that they can flatten Yemen to oblivion and the world (especially the Sunni arab world) looks the other way.
Nah i can't see how saudi leadership could justify that when israel is killing Palestinians. I think a lot of people don't realize how sensitive and explosive the Palestinian issue is in the arab world. If any regime makes the wrong move it could trigger another arab spring.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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why does the arab world care about the Palestinians but not the Yemenis? Are the Yemenis Shia?
Because it's Jerusalem and Arabs see it as a grave injustice. They would gladly die fighting for it. If there was a nation that could wage war with israel they could easily mobilize millions of recruits from all across the arab world in a matter of hours.
 

Hist

Founder of Hism
Jan 18, 2009
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why does the arab world care about the Palestinians but not the Yemenis? Are the Yemenis Shia?

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Culture is still very tribalistic at its core. Fighting within the tribe doesnt elicit the same response or threat to identity as when its from outside the tribe. Plus Sunni vs Shia conflict is more than a thousand years old. Originally a conflict on who should rule the Islamic empire that Mohammed left behind. Funnily enough its still ongoing even though there is no Islamic Empire nor is the Caliphate system an existing mode of governance at all. Its as senseless as two knights sparing over who gets to ride a unicorn.

You could also ask the same question to the West, East or anyone really. We are all tribalistic to varying degrees and are inconsistent in how we value or react to various conflicts.
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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Culture is still very tribalistic at its core. Fighting within the tribe doesnt elicit the same response or threat to identity as when its from outside the tribe. Plus Sunni vs Shia conflict is more than a thousand years old. Originally a conflict on who should rule the Islamic empire that Mohammed left behind. Funnily enough its still ongoing even though there is no Islamic Empire nor is the Caliphate system an existing mode of governance at all. Its as senseless as two knights sparing over who gets to ride a unicorn.

You could also ask the same question to the West, East or anyone really. We are all tribalistic to varying degrees and are inconsistent in how we value or react to various conflicts.
Actually it had mostly died down if not for a looney sufi from the 16th century who promoted cannibalism: Ismail 1st
 

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