Israeli-Palestinian conflict (60 Viewers)

[Seven]

It is tiny, but with a pretty good deterrence established and a strong enconomy for our size. The only real threat is Iran and it's proxis.

While the US does support us I think its a bit overstated. I don't see how Europe support us in any real way. The US support also comes with a cost, nothing is free or comes from the goodness of their heart.

Do not misunderstand me. I'm not saying that we will flourish under sanction for example or something similar but we are perfectly able to stand on our own.

But you're not. Your lack of size prevents that.

I mean, where are you even going to get all the resources you need?

 

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[BayernFan]

Even if Israel was sanctioned and stood alone I’m not sure their Arab neighbours would touch them in a potential new war.

They tried that before and got their ass kicked everytime, not to forget Israel have a big arsenal of nuclear weapons. Should keep the others at bay.

 

[Tomice]

But you're not. Your lack of size prevents that.

I mean, where are you even going to get all the resources you need?

Russia, China, India. We are not allied or depended on those countries because we are under western world sphere of influence.
A lot of possible trading and co operation is blocked from us under US term & conditions.

Iran will also be free one day, and we were best buds before the Islamic revolution.

 

[Seven]

Russia, China, India. We are not allied or depended on those countries because we are under western world sphere of influence.
A lot of possible trading and co operation is blocked from us under US term & conditions.

Iran will also be free one day, and we were best buds before the Islamic revolution.

Your idea of being able to stand alone is looking for other allies.

Don't you think this implies you are not able to stand alone?

 

[Tomice]

Your idea of being able to stand alone is looking for other allies.

Don't you think this implies you are not able to stand alone?

Almost no country can, we are not an exception.

If it's not clear, I meant independent of whoever is supporting us currently.

What you are talking about is a completly hypothetical scenario that never existes. Even sanctioned countries have enough way to baypass those.

 

[Seven]

Almost no country can, we are not an exception.

If it's not clear, I meant independent of whoever is supporting us currently.

What you are talking about is a completly hypothetical scenario that never existes. Even sanctioned countries have enough way to baypass those.

Part of Israel's problem is this reluctance to admit they operate within a global community.

That's my point.

 

[Tomice]

Part of Israel's problem is this reluctance to admit they operate within a global community.

That's my point.

To a degree we can agree on that. We can be too proudfull for our own and others good.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Iran will also be free one day, and we were best buds before the Islamic revolution.

nations are considered free only when they dance to jew's tune, right?

 

[Tomice]

nations are considered free only when they dance to jew's tune, right?

Almost, it's free when you don't get killed for wearing a wrong outfit.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Almost, it's free when you don't get killed for not wearing a wrong outfit.

having same dress code with animals does not give you any superiority over those who choose to preserve their humanity.

 

[Seven]

nations are considered free only when they dance to jew's tune, right?

Why would you not dance to the Jew's tune?

Have you heard Hasidic songs?

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having same dress code with animals does not give you any superiority over those who choose to preserve their humanity.

You are correct.

Lions can be very meticulous about their outfits. But the absolute worst are zebras. Man, they spend hours getting every stripe right.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

You are correct.

Lions can be very meticulous about their outfits. But the absolute worst are zebras. Man, they spend hours getting every stripe right.

they take it after baboons, their ancestors according to darwin, one of their deities. if you want to qualify as a modern world citizen, you have to show that ass.

 

[U Picciriddu]

having same dress code with animals does not give you any superiority over those who choose to preserve their humanity.

Didn’t see Turkey talking about humanity when they slaughtered 1,5m Armenians

 

[DAiDEViL]

Didn’t see Turkey talking about humanity when they slaughtered 1,5m Armenians

I guess ze germans are never allowed to talk about humanity ever again.

 

[IliveForJuve]

I haven't heard a convincing solution to this crisis so far.

I guess the best way forward is for Israel to eradicate Hamas and completely annex Gaza? Sounds hella messy.

 

[U Picciriddu]

I guess ze germans are never allowed to talk about humanity ever again.

Well at least Germany doesn’t deny what happened

 

[Enron]

nations are considered free only when they dance to jew's tune, right?

of course, tiny dancer!

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

You understand that Arafat and Abbas both rejected two state solutions offered by Israel in the 90s and 00s that gave them ~95% of the West Bank (plus attached Israeli land to make up for the 5%), Gaza, and a connection between the two (bridge I believe). And then Hamas came to power in Gaza, a group that rejects entirely the two state solution and has in their charter the destruction of the Israeli state.

Perhaps the Palestinian leaders need to get their shit together and negotiate on the two-state solution in good faith for the first time… maybe then the second one becomes a possibility?

That was 20 and 30 years ago, Arafat is long dead. Many Palestinians in Gaza weren't even alive then. The longer a conflict goes on, the more things change as does what is viewed as acceptable. Fuck Hamas, you negotiate with Abbas and then they will have to sort it out amongst themselves, thought they may need backing initially.

Let's not forget that Rabin was assassinated, so it's not as if it has always been just ravenous bloodthirsty Palestinians vs peace-loving hippie Israelis.

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Didn’t see Turkey talking about humanity when they slaughtered 1,5m Armenians

Or Greeks, Assyrians, Kurds, other Turks, etc.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Almost, it's free when you don't get killed for wearing a wrong outfit.

Like a suit made of naan and children's faces?

 

[Ronn]

Russia, China, India. We are not allied or depended on those countries because we are under western world sphere of influence.
A lot of possible trading and co operation is blocked from us under US term & conditions.

Iran will also be free one day, and we were best buds before the Islamic revolution.

I wonder if you have seen this video. Twitter fails to translate this properly. People chanting “shove Palestine flag in your ass”.