Israeli-Palestinian conflict (26 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

  • Yes

  • No


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Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,541
:p how do you put pressure on the US? no but seriously israel has no incentive to negotiate and this also gives them time to gobble up more palestinian land. If say US was out of the picture, then these countries, iran and saudi, would have to learn to live with each other or just go to war and let that decide it. Instead we have very toxic and un-organic country relations due to US involvement.
Fuck 'murica ;) But true.. right now and the coming decades. Things aren't looking good for the palestinian people.
 

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Bisco

Senior Member
Nov 21, 2005
14,378
isis got israeli imprint all over it, they are using them along with the kurds to weaken a shiaa iran backed iraq.
:agree: off course Abel sadly their are people who believe there propaganda simply because they tickle their religious vibes and nothing will bring this part of the world to its knees except people who refuse to use their brain and instead go with emotions that have crippled countries and/or blind nationalistic slogans that end in disasters for said group of people or countries, you know what pisses me off more than anything recently (even though this cheap ass movie has been going on since i was a kid and came to know about the different sects of islam) its this BS with regards to sunni vs shiaa non sense!! their are people who are making a living by breeding such hate and discrimination from both camps to the degree its become sickening listening to scholars from both sides take lame ass shots to cause yet more division instead of acknowledging that yes their indeed is a difference in a few points but at the end of the day its an opinion that no one is forcing on the other and just keep it at that but know we have to curse one another, kill one another, and at the end we are just de-railing from the reality that his part of the world is so behind the rest of the world its sad......
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
Jews celebrating kids getting killed



I find posts like this and the one showing Israeli people celebrating Gaza being bombarded to sentimentalize and thus oversimplify the situation in Gaza. These posts spread hate which will be only destructive to the remaining hopes of peace (that's still what I believe in and what I hope for, I hate to think of a huge war in the region with more countries involved, more people killed). There are Israelis in Israel who are against what Israeli government does and those people are actually far more active than me and you sitting at our desks, devoting a couple hours of our everyday time to following the situation in Gaza. There are Jews all over the world whose "job" is to raise awareness about the crimes happening in Palestine (they can do it without being labeled anti-semitic so they are actually more influential than people like us especially in changing Israelis' view on the topic which is really important because they are one part of this conflict, have suffered (yes they have), been constantly subject to what the Israeli government wants them to believe, and should be understood and communicated with because they can have a crucial role in changing things for better.
 
Jul 2, 2006
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I find posts like this and the one showing Israeli people celebrating Gaza being bombarded to sentimentalize and thus oversimplify the situation in Gaza. These posts spread hate which will be only destructive to the remaining hopes of peace (that's still what I believe in and what I hope for, I hate to think of a huge war in the region with more countries involved, more people killed). There are Israelis in Israel who are against what Israeli government does and those people are actually far more active than me and you sitting at our desks, devoting a couple hours of our everyday time to following the situation in Gaza. There are Jews all over the world whose "job" is to raise awareness about the crimes happening in Palestine (they can do it without being labeled anti-semitic so they are actually more influential than people like us especially in changing Israelis' view on the topic which is really important because they are one part of this conflict, have suffered (yes they have), been constantly subject to what the Israeli government wants them to believe, and should be understood and communicated with because they can have a crucial role in changing things for better.
If we think realistic rather than romantic;

1 - Those Jews who condemn zionism whom i respect much more than i respect filthy rich arabs who are taking shit in golden toilet, are very a few compared to those who support the acts of israel. They aren't even %10.

2 - There will never be peace with zionist. It might sound like a pipe dream but they seriously believe that they are destined to rule the world. It's not a Palestine issue for them, it is just first step towards the world supremacy. For not only Palestinians but for the sake of humanity, Palestine must stand.
 

Maddy

Oracle of Copenhagen
Jul 10, 2009
16,541
If we think realistic rather than romantic;

1 - Those Jews who condemn zionism whom i respect much more than i respect filthy rich arabs who are taking shit in golden toilet, are very a few compared to those who support the acts of israel. They aren't even %10.

2 - There will never be peace with zionist. It might sound like a pipe dream but they seriously believe that they are destined to rule the world. It's not a Palestine issue for them, it is just first step towards the world supremacy. For not only Palestinians but for the sake of humanity, Palestine must stand.
Yeah, I heard the Presidium of the National People's Congress are taking the Zionist movement very serious. Number one priority.
 

Zé Tahir

JhoolayLaaaal!
Moderator
Dec 10, 2004
29,281
Jul 2, 2006
18,730
"The goal of the operation is to send Gaza back to the Middle Age"
"We must blow Gaza back to the Middle Ages, destroying all the infrastructure including roads and water"


Those morals tho :touched:
They did send Gaza back to Middle Age. Medicine is running out, hospitals being targeted. Almost no electricity.

These fuckfaces are no better than Hitler or Stalin.


'The smell of death was everywhere'
Seventy-two people have been killed in Shujayea, east of Gaza, in the heaviest barrage of Israel's ground assault.


Many Palestinian families fled the Shujayea neighbourhood in the east of Gaza City after a sleepless night that witnessed the heaviest bombardment of the 13-day Israeli assault on Gaza. Heavy tank and artillery shelling has left 72 people dead, most of them women and children and over 200 injured, according to Palestinian health ministry sources.

At midday, horrific images were aired on Al Jazeera where corpses of burnt women and children were lying on the streets of Shujayea as a result of the Israeli bombardment. According to several eye witness accounts, Shujayea residents fled under heavy bombardment.

According to Palestinian human rights organisations, women were seen taking their children out to flee from the area, and some of them were killed. "People who were not able to leave the area have been trapped under the Israeli shelling and their destinies are unknown," said a statement issued by the Palestinian Centre for Human Rights.

Among those who fled the Shujayea massacre was 29-year-old Ibtessam Batniji, walking with three children and clutching an infant, looking for a taxi to pick them up in a street devoid of cars.

"We did not sleep, there was bombing everywhere," she told Al Jazeera. "I don't know where we will go," she added.

Another group of women from her extended family walked close to her, the sound of shells destroying homes in their neighbourhood behind them.

"Children are scared. We wanted to leave earlier, but we did not dare to go out in the dark. It was like a ghost town, the smell of death and sound of shooting and shelling was everywhere," one of the women said.

Many families who have evacuated from north and east Gaza are gathering in the city centre and crammed in United Nations-run schools or at homes of relatives and acquaintances.

With more Palestinians arriving from Shujayea, the most recent arrivals could not go to the overcrowded schools. Instead, they sat on the grass in the yard of al-Shifa hospital in the city.

"This is the safest place," said Nada Abu Amr, as her two children played on the grass. The families sat in circles, with fasting men lying on the ground.

"They hit our neighbour's house, we decided to go," Abu Amr added.

Atayat Aiad, a grandmother, said she had to run away with her grandchildren who were terrified.

"I had to count them, to hold their hands and escape … we are not Hamas, we have no resistance, but Israel keeps hitting us," she said.

"This is migration, I'm afraid I will return to find our home destroyed. All the savings we would have would have gone," she continued.

When Khayreya al-Muqayad, 39, left her home the third day after Israel began its operation against Gaza, she knew where she was going, having taken refuge two times before in UN-run schools.

But this time, the situation is different from their first evacuation during Israel's operation against Gaza in 2008/09 and the eight-day blitz of 2012.

"The first time it was winter, we had enough mattresses and covers. The second time, we spent only one night away and the war was over," Muqayad said from an UNRWA school in Gaza City.

This time, she says she has been stuck here for nine days, with no sign of when they will go back.

"It's Ramadan; we spent the day sitting outside the classrooms because it's airy … classrooms are full of families and they are hot," she said of the situation at the schools.

The situation in the schools was dire. Adnan Abu Hassna, spokesman for the UNRWA, told Al Jazeera that his agency needs $60m to meet people's demands and provide them with two meals for Ramadan.

"The number of people we shelter exceeded 50,000. This figure is higher than the number we hosted", during the January 2009 invasion of Gaza, he noted.

"We will need more shelters and more centres within the coming days," he added.

The schools' bathrooms are not equipped for showers. Muqayad said they have not had showers for days.

The school, which is on the edge of the Beach Refugee Camp in west Gaza, hosts more than 1,470 people in 47 classrooms.

Clothes and mattress covers hang on the railing outside the classrooms. Some men take afternoon naps on the school's concrete yard.

"Life here is like prison… No, prison is better," the woman said. Her 10-year-old daughter, Areej, says that she can't sleep at night because of the bombing.

"In the morning, it's too noisy and many children play in the yard and in the rooms, so I can't sleep here."

"I pray this will be over and I go to my home. I miss it."

Source: Al Jazeera
 

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