Israeli-Palestinian conflict (65 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

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Alen

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    Did they tell anything about the reason why they're removing her?
    Never, they have said anything, because there is no justification to throw her out of her house where she has been living for decades.

    This takes place at least once a week in Jerusalem since 1967 to make the jews a majority in Jerusalem .
     

    Alen

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    Never, they have said anything, because there is no justification to throw her out of her house where she has been living for decades.

    This takes place at least once a week in Jerusalem since 1967 to make the jews a majority in Jerusalem .
    No, I don't expect to find justice at all in what they're doing, but I expect them to at least lie and invent some reasons to tell the poor people why they're removing them. Not just to simply remove them from their homes, without a word.
    What was said on the video? I'm guessing the woman was begging, cursing etc, but did you understand what did they say?
     
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    ReBeL

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    No, I don't expect to find justice at all in what they're doing, but I expect them to at least lie and invent some reasons to tell the poor people why they're removing them. Not just to simply remove them from their homes, without a word.
    What was said on the video? I'm guessing the woman was begging, cursing etc, but did you understand what did they say?
    They said nothing in Hebrew. The woman was shouting: "Etlaa' Barra" many times, which means "Get out". The guy who was trying to calm her it seems he is an Arab who is trying to tell her to stay calm.
     
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    ReBeL

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    Egypt bars Gaza-bound aid convoys from its territory


    CAIRO, Jan 09, 2010 (AFP) - Aid convoys bound for the Gaza Strip will now be banned from traveling across Egypt after activists this week clashed with police, the foreign minister said in remarks published on Saturday.

    Ahmed Abul Gheit told government newspaper Al-Ahram that members of one convoy led by British MP George Galloway committed "criminal" acts on Egyptian soil on their way to the blockaded Palestinian coastal enclave.

    "Egypt will no longer allow convoys, regardless of their origin or who is organising them, from crossing its territory," Abul Gheit said.

    "Members of the (Viva Palestina) convoy committed hostile acts, even criminal ones, on Egyptian territory," the foreign minister added without elaborating.

    Abul Gheit was speaking to Al-Ahram from Washington where he is on a visit to discuss the Middle East peace process. He said that, from now on aid, to Gaza must be handed over to the Red Crescent at El-Arish who will turn it over to the Palestinian chapter of the Muslim relief organisation in Gaza.

    The comments come a day after a foreign ministry official told Galloway he was no longer welcome in Egypt as he flew out of the country.

    Later on Friday, Galloway told Sky News television he and a friend had been "bundled into a car" and given little choice but to get on a plane out of Egypt. "On the steps of the plane a representative of the foreign affairs ministry in Egypt told me that I was declared persona non grata," he said.

    Egypt accused Galloway, who once called at a London rally for the overthrow of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, of trying to embarrass the country, which has refused to permanently open its Rafah border crossing with Gaza.

    AFP
     

    Bisco

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    Egypt bars Gaza-bound aid convoys from its territory


    CAIRO, Jan 09, 2010 (AFP) - Aid convoys bound for the Gaza Strip will now be banned from traveling across Egypt after activists this week clashed with police, the foreign minister said in remarks published on Saturday.

    Ahmed Abul Gheit told government newspaper Al-Ahram that members of one convoy led by British MP George Galloway committed "criminal" acts on Egyptian soil on their way to the blockaded Palestinian coastal enclave.

    "Egypt will no longer allow convoys, regardless of their origin or who is organising them, from crossing its territory," Abul Gheit said.

    "Members of the (Viva Palestina) convoy committed hostile acts, even criminal ones, on Egyptian territory," the foreign minister added without elaborating.

    Abul Gheit was speaking to Al-Ahram from Washington where he is on a visit to discuss the Middle East peace process. He said that, from now on aid, to Gaza must be handed over to the Red Crescent at El-Arish who will turn it over to the Palestinian chapter of the Muslim relief organisation in Gaza.

    The comments come a day after a foreign ministry official told Galloway he was no longer welcome in Egypt as he flew out of the country.

    Later on Friday, Galloway told Sky News television he and a friend had been "bundled into a car" and given little choice but to get on a plane out of Egypt. "On the steps of the plane a representative of the foreign affairs ministry in Egypt told me that I was declared persona non grata," he said.

    Egypt accused Galloway, who once called at a London rally for the overthrow of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, of trying to embarrass the country, which has refused to permanently open its Rafah border crossing with Gaza.

    AFP

    at least they will allow it to get to people thru the red crescent thank god they did'nt say nothing at all will pass. i would'nt be surprised if they did.

    i'm not saying this is nice of the government to do, bec its shameful. this is going to effect the countries image but off course thats the last thing on the mind of the government here.

    i said on numerous occasions ahmed abu el geht is a piss poor selection for his post. i've seen some amazing diplomats and when u compare him to amr mussa u realize what has become of this departement.

    by the way i did watch the interview with galloway on al-jazeerah and i'm glad he stressed out his differentiation between the egyptain government and the egyptain population bec it would eb very unfair that such actions pass as people backed up decisions.
     

    Bisco

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    i dont know what to make of this abed, the guy is no longer alive and whether he was shot from the back or by the palestinians it will be used as an excuse. dont get me wrong here but both ways it will be used to give reason.

    in my opinion the solution for this problem is egypt letting the gates open and monitored and this will cancel out the reason for people to dig tunnels, or for any bad blood to be present between egypt and palestine. this is the logical thing to do.

    i did some reading and i understand what i have mentioned will not happen bec there is an agreement between egypt -palestine ( fata7)-isreal on how this boarder pass works and there are things that control it. off course now that fata7 is'nt no longer dominant in the picture the agreement does not take effect with hamas and hence why the boarders are closed and just open once a month if people are lucky.

    rebel did u watch the interview they showed on al-jazeerah with abbaas? what do u think of what he said regarding ;

    1- elections to take place in 6 month
    2- the un report about gaza, u know teh incident when the voting was to be delyed.
     
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    ReBeL

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    at least they will allow it to get to people thru the red crescent thank god they did'nt say nothing at all will pass. i would'nt be surprised if they did.

    i'm not saying this is nice of the government to do, bec its shameful. this is going to effect the countries image but off course thats the last thing on the mind of the government here.
    Unfortunately, it seems anything reaching to the hands of Egyptian red crescent is stolen as the Association of Egyptian doctors said afew months ago. They said that they gave 20 tons of medicines to the red crescent to be sent to Gaza. Nothing arrived. So, it will be much more useful to stop sending anything through Egypt rather than giving the aid to those helping Mubarak to become more rich by selling the aids to normal Egyptian people.

    i said on numerous occasions ahmed abu el geht is a piss poor selection for his post. i've seen some amazing diplomats and when u compare him to amr mussa u realize what has become of this departement.
    He is horribly stupid. Amr Mousa is not much better to be honest IMO.

    by the way i did watch the interview with galloway on al-jazeerah and i'm glad he stressed out his differentiation between the egyptain government and the egyptain population bec it would eb very unfair that such actions pass as people backed up decisions.
    Agree.


    i dont know what to make of this abed, the guy is no longer alive and whether he was shot from the back or by the palestinians it will be used as an excuse. dont get me wrong here but both ways it will be used to give reason.
    I know it was just to give reason for closing the borders and increasing the severity of the siege.


    in my opinion the solution for this problem is egypt letting the gates open and monitored and this will cancel out the reason for people to dig tunnels, or for any bad blood to be present between egypt and palestine. this is the logical thing to do.
    You are right, but nothing logical takes place these days.

    i did some reading and i understand what i have mentioned will not happen bec there is an agreement between egypt -palestine ( fata7)-isreal on how this boarder pass works and there are things that control it. off course now that fata7 is'nt no longer dominant in the picture the agreement does not take effect with hamas and hence why the boarders are closed and just open once a month if people are lucky.
    And there is no way that Fateh will be back to Gaza as they are so hated there...

    rebel did u watch the interview they showed on al-jazeerah with abbaas? what do u think of what he said regarding ;

    1- elections to take place in 6 month
    2- the un report about gaza, u know teh incident when the voting was to be delyed.
    I don't watch his interviews or anything he speaks about because he does not represent more than 10 percent of the people, he has no legacy, and he is a big liar...
     

    Bisco

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    reb there is off course a difference between amr mousa as a minister and amr mousa as general of the arab league. i'm referring to his time as a minister, bec in the arab league its already a sinking ship he cant do anything to change that. its a very known fact he was moved there bec he gained alot of popularity amongst people so they toke him out of the picture and where better to let him vanish than the arab league.
     
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    ReBeL

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    reb there is off course a difference between amr mousa as a minister and amr mousa as general of the arab league. i'm referring to his time as a minister, bec in the arab league its already a sinking ship he cant do anything to change that. its a very known fact he was moved there bec he gained alot of popularity amongst people so they toke him out of the picture and where better to let him vanish than the arab league.
    And he couldn't resist...:sergio:
     

    Bisco

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    And he couldn't resist...:sergio:
    if i get u right u mean declining to take the position right?? well i dont know abed to be frank but i think he thought he might make a change to an already dying body :D but i would take him over the current moron any day!!
     
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    ReBeL

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    Faruq Qaddumi, one of the founders of Palestinian Liberation Organization, today said: If Arabs want to support Palestinians, they should look for military resistants and support them. Otherwise, they should mind their own business.
     

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