Israeli-Palestinian conflict (80 Viewers)

[Omair]

That is what screwed us in the end. Allah Eysame7 Al-Shareef Hussain.

Amen, his great grand children are my friends.. funnily enough they know NOTHING about the history behind their family. They just know that at some point they ruled Hijaz and that's all.

But you know, I think he tried to return the Arab Caliphate instead of the Turk. I mean he did send his sons to different parts of Arabia to rule! But they were caught between all the revolutionaries. Not to mention how he got screwed in his own base by the forces coming from Najd led by King Abdulaziz.

Sometimes I think we had it coming with all the internal conflicts.

 

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[Fred]

Amen, his great grand children are my friends.. funnily enough they know NOTHING about the history behind their family. They just know that at some point they ruled Hijaz and that's all.

But you know, I think he tried to return the Arab Caliphate instead of the Turk. I mean he did send his sons to different parts of Arabia to rule! But they were caught between all the revolutionaries. Not to mention how he got screwed in his own base by the forces coming from Najd led by King Abdulaziz.

Sometimes I think we had it coming with all the internal conflicts.

His sons were looking for power and nothing else unfortunately. His eldest son Abdullah was the first to sign a peace treaty with Israel(iirc).

But you're right internal conflict fucked us over and we can blame only ourselves for our present state.

 

[ReBeL]

Point taken. But what are they ever going to achieve with a gun or a rock against the US backed Israel?

When you take a small cat to a room, fix it on some table with ropes not giving it any chance to move, then you used a knife to kill it gradually, then you wouldn't expect this small cat to stay calm even if it is so helpless. It has to try until the end to hurt that guy who is trying to kill it, and even if he lost a finger in its attempts, that would be better than nothing.

 

[JBF]

Amen, his great grand children are my friends.. funnily enough they know NOTHING about the history behind their family. They just know that at some point they ruled Hijaz and that's all.

But you know, I think he tried to return the Arab Caliphate instead of the Turk. I mean he did send his sons to different parts of Arabia to rule! But they were caught between all the revolutionaries. Not to mention how he got screwed in his own base by the forces coming from Najd led by King Abdulaziz.

Sometimes I think we had it coming with all the internal conflicts.

The King Ali ibn al Hussein project was the kingdom of Arabia and that includes only western Asia (the african part of the Arabian world isn't included).

His sons were looking for power and nothing else unfortunately. His eldest son Abdullah was the first to sign a peace treaty with Israel(iirc).

But you're right internal conflict fucked us over and we can blame only ourselves for our present state.

Well I believe that king Faisal was really up for the job, as he was a die hard arabian who did actually bother to fight the occupiers and got injured several times in doing so.

That is what screwed us in the end. Allah Eysame7 Al-Shareef Hussain.

Allah yil3an Lawrence 2il zift.

 

[ReBeL]

Exactly, before one year, we started this thread when the biggest Israeli attack started on Gaza.

I just wanted to thank everybody who took part in the discussions in this thread until now

 

[JBF]

Rebel, you're the one who should be thanked..really

 

[IrishZebra]

Kings

 

[Omair]

The King Ali ibn al Hussein project was the kingdom of Arabia and that includes only western Asia (the african part of the Arabian world isn't included).


Well I believe that king Faisal was really up for the job, as he was a die hard arabian who did actually bother to fight the occupiers and got injured several times in doing so.

Allah yil3an Lawrence 2il zift.

yeah, i'm guessing so, but that's because by then King Faruq was in Egypt and I don't think he'd needed one more conflict!

and King Faisal, was better than the rest .. there must be something with the name ..

and amen to the last line!

 

[ReBeL]

and King Faisal, was better than the rest .. there must be something with the name ..

Nice linkage.

But wait, I hope you won't link his brother too in the same way because then we'll have to look for your corpse very soon

 

[king Ale]

Point taken. But what are they ever going to achieve with a gun or a rock against the US backed Israel?

Absolutely nothing but it's still the most natural reaction you would expect of anyone at such a situation in which you have nothing left to lose. Why do we live seriously? We go after our goals, trying to get a job, to have somewhere to live in, to have a family, to achieve a living, to feel safe, secure and free. When someone wrests pretty much all of that from you, you're potentially able to do anything.

When you take a small cat to a room, fix it on some table with ropes not giving it any chance to move, then you used a knife to kill it gradually, then you wouldn't expect this small cat to stay calm even if it is so helpless. It has to try until the end to hurt that guy who is trying to kill it, and even if he lost a finger in its attempts, that would be better than nothing.

It's definitely not when the cat knows there's no way of escaping. It's always better to have all of your fingers you know. Thing is that what the cat is doing there, even though all is in vain, is just understandable and I'm sure anyone would do the same being in such position.

 

[Omair]

Nice linkage.

But wait, I hope you won't link his brother too in the same way because then we'll have to look for your corpse very soon

lol .. I know that our king is greater than any other out there ..

am i safe now?

 

[IrishZebra]

No it won't be secularly governed. But it won't look like the autocratic theocracies like Iran. Instead it would look like the state in the era of the Rashidun Caliphate.


Us Arabs have always been under one state for hundreds of years. Seperate states were created by the colonial powers after they were forced to leave.

A non-Secular state is not a state at all it is a pretender to democracy and an abomination to the entire concept of governance.

Those that require divine guidance to do the right thing are not fit to lead sheep,let alone men.

 

[ReBeL]

lol .. I know that our king is greater than any other out there ..

am i safe now?

I guess so.

 

[ReBeL]

A photo from the tunnels between Gaza and Egypt:

 

[Fred]

A non-Secular state is not a state at all it is a pretender to democracy and an abomination to the entire concept of governance.

Those that require divine guidance to do the right thing are not fit to lead sheep,let alone men.

Or so you say.

 

[ReBeL]

 

[IrishZebra]

Or so you say.

The terms of Madame Liberty are non-negotiable.

 

[Bisco]

A photo from the tunnels between Gaza and Egypt:

i doubt it has anything to do with this abed, this is simply normal civilians paying the hefty price for the hate between hamas and the government here. there is no two ways about it Egypt simply put hates hamas.

i have heard on several occasions that fateh ( which is brutally backed up by here and most arab countries) is not popular any more and that people quite dislike them, and i do understand hamas are no angels either but preventing food and medicines to pass is nothing short from ridiculous. i would understand if egypt does'nt want weapons to be transferred thru its boundaries i can live with that but other supplies which are much needed should be passed regardless of who we like in Palestine and who we just want the ground to crack open and swallow ( hamas).

i wish some one from the government would come out and say we are building this wall for the following reasons, or even better come up with a logical reason as to why we dont want the convoy to pass thru egyptain land instead of having them go back to jordan, syria, just to come back to aresh at the end of the day. until then egypts creditbility in the eyes if its people is starting to be very shaky not to mention in the arab world, and who gets the bashing at the end normal people who happen to be egyptains. its no secret the entire arab world is in with this move bec to this minute apart from turkey the rest of the arab world is quite as if there is nothing going on.

 

[IrishZebra]

Is that guy about to rape that sheep?

 

[ReBeL]

i doubt it has anything to do with this abed, this is simply normal civilians paying the hefty price for the hate between hamas and the government here. there is no two ways about it Egypt simply put hates hamas.

i have heard on several occasions that fateh ( which is brutally backed up by here and most arab countries) is not popular any more and that people quite dislike them, and i do understand hamas are no angels either but preventing food and medicines to pass is nothing short from ridiculous. i would understand if egypt does'nt want weapons to be transferred thru its boundaries i can live with that but other supplies which are much needed should be passed regardless of who we like in Palestine and who we just want the ground to crack open and swallow ( hamas).

i wish some one from the government would come out and say we are building this wall for the following reasons, or even better come up with a logical reason as to why we dont want the convoy to pass thru egyptain land instead of having them go back to jordan, syria, just to come back to aresh at the end of the day. until then egypts creditbility in the eyes if its people is starting to be very shaky not to mention in the arab world, and who gets the bashing at the end normal people who happen to be egyptains. its no secret the entire arab world is in with this move bec to this minute apart from turkey the rest of the arab world is quite as if there is nothing going on.

I totally agree. Did you hear the latest Hajjar song which was was forbidden in Egypt "Ya Masry"?