Israeli-Palestinian conflict (64 Viewers)

[Eddy]

Jews were there before Muslims,the land is rightfully theirs.

Idiotic thinking strikes the thread once again

 

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[ReBeL]

Bet most of the Arab countries especially Saudi Arabia envy Palestine for being chosen as the future center of the Muslim ummah (or Jewish world). That would hamper their Hajj and other pilgrimage revenues, wouldn't it!

Well, in Islam, Al-Quds will still be the third most important city in the world after Mecca and Medina.

 

[ReBeL]

Do you think he will forget?

 

[BlanquiNegro]

But you didn't answer my question. For the people who voted that Israel should not exist, what do those people want to do with the inhabitants of Israel?

Israel should not exist as a STATE

Let me ask u the same Q
You know that Israel is denying the right of return for the Palestinian refugees, scattered all over the world
Hundred of thousands or maybe Millions of them were born in Palestine
Thousands of them have families and relatives still living in Palestine
Thousands of them still have their homes, lands and other properties in Palestine

So those who voted for the right of Israel to exist who know very well that Israel is denying the right of return

What do those people want to do with the Palestinian refugees?

 

[Martin]

Israel should not exist as a STATE

Let me ask u the same Q
You know that Israel is denying the right of return for the Palestinian refugees, scattered all over the world
Hundred of thousands or maybe Millions of them were born in Palestine
Thousands of them have families and relatives still living in Palestine
Thousands of them still have their homes, lands and other properties in Palestine

So those who voted for the right of Israel to exist who know very well that Israel is denying the right of return

What do those people want to do with the Palestinian refugees?

I think both states should exist, and I completely resent the shameless expansionism of Israel. They should have a right to a state, they should not have the right to expand their borders as they see fit.

 

[BlanquiNegro]

I think both states should exist, and I completely resent the shameless expansionism of Israel. They should have a right to a state, they should not have the right to expand their borders as they see fit.

1-But unfortunately will never happen

2-Well, the tow blue strips in their flags say it all

 

[Vinman]

no! the land is rightfully for both of you..

Sesame Street taught us how to share....what the hell happened ??


come to think of it, does anyone remember the Mickey Mouse wanna-be that was created by Hamas, to get their children to hate the Jews at such a young age....




no excuses here, things will NEVER change with shit like this being shown to innocent children

they wont be so innocent after being exposed to this shit......

 

[GordoDeCentral]

more crack, from more members who only argue because they have nothing better to do with their lives. So we should all accept the jews living in occupied ILLEGALLY acquired land just becuase it's a fait accompli? I would like to see that arguemtn pass in any court in the world: sorry if i kicked you out of your house but i have been here for so long i grew fond of it and i dont quite know where to go now...BULLSHIT

And Vinman seriously whats that video that you have shown multiple times have to do with the current situation? we are already aware of your bias for one side.

 

[Martin]

more crack, from more members who only argue because they have nothing better to do with their lives. So we should all accept the jews living in occupied ILLEGALLY acquired land just becuase it's a fait accompli? I would like to see that arguemtn pass in any court in the world: sorry if i kicked you out of your house but i have been here for so long i grew fond of it and i dont quite know where to go now...BULLSHIT

And Vinman seriously whats that video that you have shown multiple times have to do with the current situation? we are already aware of your bias for one side.

You know what's interesting? Every time I see a piece of insightful commentary about this conflict at first I think "well, finally a balanced view". But then, inevitably, it turns out to be biased one way or the other. Which just goes to show that even among outsiders there is little consensus or potential for settlement.

 

[Fred]

But the same could be said about you Martin. Your throwing around the "both sides should settle their differences and create two separate states" like its that easy.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

its not ok to be biased towards one side or the other, but how many times should i repeat it it's mandatory to be biased towards whats true. Bias in itself carries no negative connotation. I dont care to be objective i care to be fair, regardless who we have to piss off.

 

[Martin]

But the same could be said about you Martin. Your throwing around the "both sides should settle their differences and create two separate states" like its that easy.

To be perfectly honest it's not like I have a stake in this. Settle their differences and have two states is my best scheme for resolution. And difficult as that may be, I think it's much more constructive than saying Israel shouldn't exist at all.

Don't you?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

To be perfectly honest it's not like I have a stake in this. Settle their differences and have two states is my best scheme for resolution. And difficult as that may be, I think it's much more constructive than saying Israel shouldn't exist at all.

we have gone through this earlier in the thread, theres a difference between ideally and practically. Funny thing is The whole world agrees with you except for the us and guess who ISRAEL

 

[Bjerknes]

more crack, from more members who only argue because they have nothing better to do with their lives. So we should all accept the jews living in occupied ILLEGALLY acquired land just becuase it's a fait accompli? I would like to see that arguemtn pass in any court in the world: sorry if i kicked you out of your house but i have been here for so long i grew fond of it and i dont quite know where to go now...BULLSHIT

And Vinman seriously whats that video that you have shown multiple times have to do with the current situation? we are already aware of your bias for one side.

Key word right there, which seems to be a perpetual theme with everything Israel does throughout history. Good post.

 

[Fred]

To be perfectly honest it's not like I have a stake in this. Settle their differences and have two states is my best scheme for resolution. And difficult as that may be, I think it's much more constructive than saying Israel shouldn't exist at all.

Exactly. If you had land or a house or anything at all at stake, you wouldn't have had that opinion.

The international community accepting Israel having a state will set a dangerous precedent.

 

[Martin]

we have gone through this earlier in the thread, theres a difference between ideally and practically. Funny thing is The whole world agrees with you except for the us and guess who ISRAEL

Well that's nothing new. I disagree with the US and Israel on lots of things.

Frankly if we wanted to get serious about this we should boycott Israel.

 

[Martin]

Exactly. If you had land or a house or anything at all at stake, you wouldn't have had that opinion.

Hard to say, I haven't lived through that after all, so I can't know what would have been. But you know there are people who lose their homes in peaceful times too. When the government decides to build a road/airport/whatever right across their area.

What I'm saying though is that the argument that says a nation has a right to exist and have a state makes sense to me. And if you ask the Kurds I think they'll agree. Next you have to decide where and how to make it happen.

The international community accepting Israel having a state will set a dangerous precedent.

Well it's a bit too late to worry about that, it happened 60 years ago.

 

[Fred]

Hard to say, I haven't lived through that after all, so I can't know what would have been. But you know there are people who lose their homes in peaceful times too. When the government decides to build a road/airport/whatever right across their area.

Difference is those people get compensation for that, Palestinians on the other hand are driven out of their homes by force. Big big difference

What I'm saying though is that the argument that says a nation has a right to exist and have a state makes sense to me. And if you ask the Kurds I think they'll agree. Next you have to decide where and how to make it happen.


Well it's a bit too late to worry about that, it happened 60 years ago.

Whats next, the berbers in Libya asking for a country. I mean why not, they have more of a right to call themselves a race than the jews who come from all over the world.

 

[Martin]

Whats next, the berbers in Libya asking for a country. I mean why not, they have more of a right to call themselves a race than the jews who come from all over the world.

Right, but how does Palestine have a stronger case to have its own state than say the Kurds? How do you accept one and reject the other?

 

[Zé Tahir]

Why don't we just go around the world and give back all indigenous people their land. Much injustice has been endured by them as well. Let's start with Australia, South America, North Amerca...then we can move on to resolve the more 'complicated' issues.

^^
Ridiculous. It's simple, Jews don't deserve Palestine. Do they have a right to have a country? Sure, I have nothing against it. Do they deserve to get handouts and the license to oppress and kill a people? No.

Pakistan wasn't a handout, our grandparents gave their lives for it and despite all odds we still stand sovereign today.