Israeli-Palestinian conflict (56 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

I don't know how anyone can sit there and say fuck all the Palestinians when they live in a giant prison. Trust me, I don't care for their religion at all, but the Israelis aren't much better when it comes to that nonsense. You can't expect the Palestinians to just sit idle forever and not do anything to change their predicament. It's basically Newton's third law of motion - there will always be pushback in the opposite direction.

I'm also a bit skeptical of these "Americans" being killed over there. My assumption is they are "Americans" serving the IDF because they're Jewish or whatever, which, to me, doesn't make them Americans. They should just go become Israelis, much like the pro-Russia crowd who suck on Putin's donger all day long.

 

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[BayernFan]

That’s a good defensive strategy I must say. “I’m a moron but so is everyone I know”.

I didn't talk about myself in this case, just from what you can witness when you talk about wars/conflicts.

Just take the Ukraine war as an example. Most of us are on the Ukrainian side and thinks that Russia is in the wrong, but of course is Russia and their allies of another conviction. That's how it is and why wars will forever be a thing.

One side thinks the others are pure evil and they think the same back.

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There are indeed people whose intelligence is on the same level as yours.

We can't all be as blessed as you my highness.

Not all of us had access to education, rubber and genocide in Congo, instead we started assuming things because it was in our blood.

 

[Seven]

We can't all be as blessed as you my highness.

Not all of us had access to education, rubber and genocide in Congo, instead we started assuming things because it was in our blood.

I accept your apology.

 

[BayernFan]

I accept your apology.

To be fair I do condemn a lot of what Israel is doing. I'm not a fan of their apartheid system and the settlements etc. But the Palestinians/Arabs also have their own fair share of responsibility for the situation being where it is as of today.

With that said I must admit I find more sympathy for Israel in this eternal conflict. Lets just hope for peace in the region, although it won't happen anytime soon.

Both parts are backed too much up in their own corners for it to happen...

 

[Seven]

To be fair I do condemn a lot of what Israel is doing. I'm not a fan of their apartheid system and the settlements.

But I must admit I find more sympathy for them in this eternal conflict compared to the Palestinians. Lets just hope for peace in the region, although it won't happen anytime soon.

Both parts are backed too much up in their own corners for it to happen...

It's a conflict with a lot of history and I believe there comes a point when it no longer makes sense to try to assign guilt to either party.

I do think that European and Northern American media are more positive towards Israel than they should be and perhaps the conflict is even kept alive because of this support. If Israel was truly isolated, they probably wouldn't push as hard as they do. On the other hand it's difficult to justify Hamas. The behaviour and mentality of Palestinians in general, especially abroad, does not win them much sympathy either.

But, frankly, I don't care about any of that. I'm not in the business of saying which party is right and which party is wrong. It just needs to end.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

But the poor Palestinians .
How the bad Israelis are destroying their country while they are launching missiles from behind literal meat shields.

And let's be honest if they wouldn't be shouting Allah akbar or whatever , then they would literally have to go to work and try to improve their standard of living .
It's easier to slack all day and once every few years you "freedom fight" some civilians in Israel.
Work is too hard for those "freedom fighters".

Why do you think this is happening?

 

[BayernFan]

It's a conflict with a lot of history and I believe there comes a point when it no longer makes sense to try to assign guilt to either party.

I do think that European and Northern American media are more positive towards Israel than they should be and perhaps the conflict is even kept alive because of this support. If Israel was truly isolated, they probably wouldn't push as hard as they do. On the other hand it's difficult to justify Hamas. The behaviour and mentality of Palestinians in general, especially abroad, does not win them much sympathy either.

But, frankly, I don't care about any of that. I'm not in the business of saying which party is right and which party is wrong. It just needs to end.

This is sadly one of the key reasons I don't like them much. I know something like that shouldn't be relevant in a conflict, but it sadly do matter when it comes to sympathy.

And I do agree with most of your points btw.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

I'm also a bit skeptical of these "Americans" being killed over there. My assumption is they are "Americans" serving the IDF because they're Jewish or whatever, which, to me, doesn't make them Americans. They should just go become Israelis, much like the pro-Russia crowd who suck on Putin's donger all day long.

Wait until the die-hard conservative ones that want to cut funding to Ukraine find out that this was made possible in part by Russia working with Iran.

 

[kappa96]

Why do you think this is happening?

What do attacking civilians with missiles accomplishes?

You do know that they attack indiscriminately ?

It's as if Israel is justified in keeping them in Gaza. Also they have a border with Egypt .
Maybe their brothers can take them in but what do you know they don't want them either .
It's as if any country could do better with few radicalized citizens not many.

They said that they launched 5000 missiles.
If my enemy had 5000 missiles to throw at me I would put him in a dome , not a "cage".

Also Andy you said that Israel is keeping them in a cage. What do you mean.
You want to deny a country a right to have borders or what?
You want to let 3 million people that hate your population to mingle together?
What do you think would be the end goal.
Are they gonna start dancing around a fire and sing Kumba Ya in brotherhood ( jews and Muslims), lol.

 

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[kappa96]

I guess that's what happens when you attack a far more powerful enemy than you constantly instead of trying to make peace with it.
Also you shoud extrapolate the "freedom fighters" from there.
BTW can you explain to us why your Erdogan keeps opressing the Kurd population.
Aren't they entitled to a country also?

 

[Post Ironic]

I'm not the one comparing the Israelis with literal women and children slaughters.
Put that into perspectives next time.

Thinking Israel hasn’t killed Palestinian women and children in massive numbers over the past several decades… Yikes.

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I don't know how anyone can sit there and say fuck all the Palestinians when they live in a giant prison. Trust me, I don't care for their religion at all, but the Israelis aren't much better when it comes to that nonsense. You can't expect the Palestinians to just sit idle forever and not do anything to change their predicament. It's basically Newton's third law of motion - there will always be pushback in the opposite direction.

I'm also a bit skeptical of these "Americans" being killed over there. My assumption is they are "Americans" serving the IDF because they're Jewish or whatever, which, to me, doesn't make them Americans. They should just go become Israelis, much like the pro-Russia crowd who suck on Putin's donger all day long.

This. 100%

 

[kappa96]

Thinking Israel hasn’t killed Palestinian women and children in massive numbers over the past several decades… Yikes.

Well they killed and always in retaliation.
What can you do? You can't throw missiles behind meat shields and not expect that sometimes you are going to be destroyed along with your meat shield.

You can do an exercise with your neighbor .
Just trow 1000 rocks at his house constantly and then put your kid in front of your house when he is enraged and see if he cares the he can hit him.

Also having compaunds in hospitals , schools says more about these terrorists than any innocent civilians they ever killed .
Pure savages that should be whipped from the face of the earth .
They don't even care about their own people because everyone knows in their religion ,if you wage war and die you get 70 virgins
True story established year 1000 ,hasn't evolved since.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Well they killed and always in retaliation.
What can you do? You can't throw missiles behind meat shields and not expect that sometimes you are going to be destroyed along with your meat shield.

You can do an exercise with your neighbor .
Just trow 1000 rocks at his house constantly and then put your kid in front of your house when he is enraged and see if he cares the he can hit him.

Ironically enough, this sounds like a perfect apology for what hamas did. Bravo on the full circle.

 

[IliveForJuve]

@Tomice sup dawg

 

[kappa96]

Ironically enough, this sounds like a perfect apology for what hamas did. Bravo on the full circle.

Ping me up when Israel is going to send 5000 missiles in Gaza
Better yet why not send one nuke if they are savages like dai said.

 

[Post Ironic]

Well they killed and always in retaliation.
What can you do? You can't throw missiles behind meat shields and not expect that sometimes you are going to be destroyed along with your meat shield.

You can do an exercise with your neighbor .
Just trow 1000 rocks at his house constantly and then put your kid in front of your house when he is enraged and see if he cares the he can hit him.

Also having compaunds in hospitals , schools says more about these terrorists than any innocent civilians they ever killed .
Pure savages that should be whipped from the face of the earth .
They don't even care about their own people because everyone knows in their religion ,if you wage war and die you get 70 virgins
True story established year 1000 ,hasn't evolved since.

Yikes.

 

[GordoDeCentral]

Ping me up when Israel is going to send 5000 missiles in Gaza
Better yet why not send one nuke if they are savages like dai said.

Number 1: they are called rockets

Number 2: why use rockets when you have an air force

Number 3: i really don't think you understand how nuclear explosion work and what happens afterwards

Number 4: there's no moral high ground in war. Your desperate rationalizations only betray your obvious hypocrisy and blatant ignorance.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

What do attacking civilians with missiles accomplishes?

You do know that they attack indiscriminately ?

It's as if Israel is justified in keeping them in Gaza. Also they have a border with Egypt .
Maybe their brothers can take them in but what do you know they don't want them either .
It's as if any country could do better with few radicalized citizens not many.

They said that they launched 5000 missiles.
If my enemy had 5000 missiles to throw at me I would put him in a dome , not a "cage".

Also Andy you said that Israel is keeping them in a cage. What do you mean.
You want to deny a country a right to have borders or what?
You want to let 3 million people that hate your population to mingle together?
What do you think would be the end goal.
Are they gonna start dancing around a fire and sing Kumba Ya in brotherhood ( jews and Muslims), lol.

You didn't answer the question.

Let's try this then, what did your people do under the Ottomans and Russians in the 1800s? What did the Haitians do against the French? The Indians against the British, and then the Muslims against the Indians immediately after? The Kurds against the Turks? The Jews against the British? It isn't hard to see a pattern here.

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Well they killed and always in retaliation.
What can you do? You can't throw missiles behind meat shields and not expect that sometimes you are going to be destroyed along with your meat shield.

You can do an exercise with your neighbor .
Just trow 1000 rocks at his house constantly and then put your kid in front of your house when he is enraged and see if he cares the he can hit him.

Also having compaunds in hospitals , schools says more about these terrorists than any innocent civilians they ever killed .
Pure savages that should be whipped from the face of the earth .
They don't even care about their own people because everyone knows in their religion ,if you wage war and die you get 70 virgins
True story established year 1000 ,hasn't evolved since.

Are you sure? Who held dominion over the land prior? Was it pasty-white Eastern European Orthodox Jews? Now that doesn't quite seem correct, does it? And then afterwards with the establishment of borders, would you take kindly to Bulgarians, Greeks, Russians, or Turks bulldozing your home for a compound of their own?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

This post says it all really