FWIW Ze, I think the reason Seven's making such a big deal out of this, is because in a lot of European countries, groups of muslims who oppose the Western lifestyle are gaining in influence and power.
Exactly. And what's even worse: fundamentalist right wing parties see this as a possibility. Let's be honest: Islam is not compatible with western lifestyle. It's just not. Not even close. So there are choices to make. Islam has to change.
YES or NO. There is no yes, but in there, Ze. I don't see it. Do you? And why the fuck should there be? Why the fuck can I only laugh about certain aspects of Islam? I'm not muslim. I can joke about whatever the fuck I want. But no, you want censorship.
Why can't I make fun of Muhammad? I don't believe in Muhammad. I don't think he was the prophet. I think he was some random guy. I can make fun of a random in history, can't I? I mean, people can make fun of Napoleon FFS. And Napoleon wasn't some random guy. But Muhammad was.
Should I be allowed to make fun of black people in the same manner you want to make fun of Prophet Muhammad? Should I be able to make fun of Jews and the holocaust? Should I be able to?
Don't accuse me of censorship, you've made it a crime to deny the holocaust ffs. It's illegal to 'believe' that the holocaust never occurred, can you believe it
And why can't there be a yes, but option? Obviously this can never be a simple of a 'yes' and 'no' matter. You can joke and comment but up to a certain limit no? Not just about religion, about anything. Make excessive jokes about the jews in the holocaust, I think you'd get the same reaction..?
Should I be allowed to make fun of black people in the same manner you want to make fun of Prophet Muhammad? Should I be able to make fun of Jews and the holocaust? Should I be able to?
Don't accuse me of censorship, you've made it a crime to deny the holocaust ffs. It's illegal to 'believe' that the holocaust never occurred, can you believe it
And why can't there be a yes, but option? Obviously this can never be a simple of a 'yes' and 'no' matter. You can joke and comment but up to a certain limit no? Not just about religion, about anything. Make excessive jokes about the jews in the holocaust, I think you'd get the same reaction..?
FWIW Ze, I think the reason Seven's making such a big deal out of this, is because in a lot of European countries, groups of muslims who oppose the Western lifestyle are gaining in influence and power.
You really don't need to make excuses for Seven's behavior.
I'm not going to accept that he generalizes over a billion people. I certainly don't think all atheists are ignorant, inconsiderate, and rude as Seven is.
Last time someone generalized six million jews and homosexuals lost their lives. Oh, and they live next door to this maniac and so called champion of freedom of speech.
You really don't need to make excuses for Seven's behavior.
I'm not going to accept that he generalizes over a billion people. I certainly don't think all atheists are ignorant, inconsiderate, and rude as Seven is.
Last time someone generalized six million jews and homosexuals lost their lives. Oh, and they live next door to this maniac and so called champion of freedom of speech.
Should I be allowed to make fun of black people in the same manner you want to make fun of Prophet Muhammad? Should I be able to make fun of Jews and the holocaust? Should I be able to?
Don't accuse me of censorship, you've made it a crime to deny the holocaust ffs. It's illegal to 'believe' that the holocaust never occurred, can you believe it
And why can't there be a yes, but option? Obviously this can never be a simple of a 'yes' and 'no' matter. You can joke and comment but up to a certain limit no? Not just about religion, about anything. Make excessive jokes about the jews in the holocaust, I think you'd get the same reaction..?
We all know to what extent they can make fun of, don't act innocent.
And you can sugar coat the laws all you want it's still ridiculous and very much against freedom of speech to be punished for denying the holocaust.
Of the countries that ban Holocaust denial, a number (Austria, Germany, and Romania) were among the perpetrators of the Holocaust, and many of these also ban other elements associated with Nazism, such as Nazi symbols. Additionally, scholars have pointed out that countries that specifically ban Holocaust denial generally have legal systems that limit speech in other ways, such as banning hate speech.