Iraq. Is it better now?? (AKA ISIS/ISIL/IS/name-of-the-week-here) (25 Viewers)

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AFL_ITALIA

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Jun 17, 2011
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Not you, your fucking freemason founding fathers and the ones following their steps. Yes, they enjoy people who are not their kind being killed. Forget about middle east for a minute. How many thousands did your government kill in south america with all of those staged coup d'etats.

They don't even give flying fuck about their own citizens. Lusitania, Pearl Harbor, September 11... Should i go on?
You could at least use examples that don't involve batshit insane conspiracy theories. Here, let me help you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Still don't agree though.
 

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GordoDeCentral

Diez
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Apr 14, 2005
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-Who will take initiative and fight the bad guys when (if) the US leaves (which I think we should leave 100%, for the record)?
-How is that kid labeled a terrorist by pentagon standards?
-Why is it OK for terrorists like ISIS to hide in a crowd and use the excuse that civilians are killed they are somehow martyrs when you know they are only using them as shields? How can they use religion as a reason to hide amongst them knowing that because of that then innocent lives will be killed when forces are trying to target the bad guys?
-You can post a picture of a dead kid (civilian) but won't post pics of innocent life ISIS has taken. Why?
:tup:
 
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ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
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    We staged Pearl Harbor? :lol:
    You know Pearl Harbor was a military location. Right? You are trying to make it as if Japanese forces attacked Hollywood. I hope your history books were not faked to make you think like that too
     

    AFL_ITALIA

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    Jun 17, 2011
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    Your government have staged 9/11, your government have purposely ignored the incoming Japanese attack, your government sent a ship full of innocent people to be torpedoed. They are the mother of all evil.
    Explain.

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    You know Pearl Harbor was a military location. Right? You are trying to make it as if Japanese forces attacked Hollywood. I hope your history books were not faked to make you think like that too
    That's not the point of contention.
     

    Hust

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    May 29, 2005
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    Your government have staged 9/11, your government have purposely ignored the incoming Japanese attack, your government sent a ship full of innocent people to be torpedoed. They are the mother of all evil.
    Not listening to your intell because you dont think its credible at the time isn't "ignoring". Mistakes happen. Had we had listened to intell pre-9/11 and attacked the region we still would have been shit on by people like you

    damned if we do, damned if we dont :lol:

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    You know Pearl Harbor was a military location. Right? You are trying to make it as if Japanese forces attacked Hollywood. I hope your history books were not faked to make you think like that too
    Attacking hollywood would have been a lot better from my POV, to be honest. Too many idiots there.


    Anyways, yes it was a military location but we weren't at war so WHAT IS THE FUCKING POINT YOU ARE TRYING TO MAKE?

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    Explain.

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    That's not the point of contention.
    I cant figure out what points they are trying to make with pearl harbor.
     
    Jul 2, 2006
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    You can find many sources about it which will explain much better than reading my posts with broken english.

    Not listening to your intell because you dont think its credible at the time isn't "ignoring". Mistakes happen. Had we had listened to intell pre-9/11 and attacked the region we still would have been shit on by people like you
    They have wanted to be in that war, Pearl Harbor being attacked was the best option they had. Surely they did not regret.

    9/11 is an obvious Jewish - US co-operation to justify their modern age crusade. Again for the profit. Oil worth more than blood to them.
     
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    ReBeL

    The Jackal
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    I'll organize this and make it easier for you to answer, Rebel:

    -Who will take initiative and fight the bad guys when (if) the US leaves (which I think we should leave 100%, for the record)?
    -How is that kid labeled a terrorist by pentagon standards?
    -Why is it OK for terrorists like ISIS to hide in a crowd and use the excuse that civilians are killed they are somehow martyrs when you know they are only using them as shields? How can they use religion as a reason to hide amongst them knowing that because of that then innocent lives will be killed when forces are trying to target the bad guys?
    -You can post a picture of a dead kid (civilian) but won't post pics of innocent life ISIS has taken. Why?
    - IS was established after nobody interfered in stopping the massacres of Assad and Malki regimes against civilians. If you want to stand against IS, why don't you stop the ones who killed much more than them?

    - After long preparations, Americans killed that child among many civilians in an area that is not controlled even by IS. There is no another justification that he was killed except that he was a source of danger on American forces.

    - You know American forces have always been killing thousands of civilians and do not ever care if the murdered people are civilians or not. Refer back to Hiroshima, my dear. Were Japanese forces hiding among civilians in the whole city? No. American forces are using their force to suppress people regardless how many innocents are losing their lives...

    - Could you please provide me with the pictures of children killed by IS? I tried and found none.
     

    Hust

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    May 29, 2005
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    You can find many sources about it which will explain much better than reading my posts with broken english.



    They have wanted to be in that war, Pearl Harbor being attacked was the best option they had. Surely they did not regret.

    9/11 is an obvious Jewish - US co-operation to justify their modern age crusade. Again for the profit. Oil worth more than blood to them.
    Your english is fine. Explain your fucking point, Turk. You don't use your broken english as an excuse to accuse americans of laughing all the way to the bank when innocent life is killed and we enjoy it

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    You can find many sources about it which will explain much better than reading my posts with broken english.



    They have wanted to be in that war, Pearl Harbor being attacked was the best option they had. Surely they did not regret.

    9/11 is an obvious Jewish - US co-operation to justify their modern age crusade. Again for the profit. Oil worth more than blood to them.
    the second part makes no sense at all: we were $4 trillion in the hole as a result of our wars there when Obama took office. What fucking profit did we make, exactly?

    And how is it two people from a broken region know more about Pearl Harbor than Americans? FML
     
    Jul 2, 2006
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    Your english is fine. Explain your fucking point, Turk. You don't use your broken english as an excuse to accuse americans of laughing all the way to the bank when innocent life is killed and we enjoy it
    From the first post, i am using term of usa government and you're desperately trying to turn it into americans.

    It's not shame to condemn your own government, especially when they are this evil. I can condemn atrocities of my state like events of Dersim, you can try it too, not that hard. Shame belong to those who support their acts, not those who condemn them.
     
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    ReBeL

    The Jackal
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    And how is it two people from a broken region know more about Pearl Harbor than Americans? FML
    This is exactly the mindset that we are talking about. You think of others in this planet as minor people that do not deserve to be treated like "holy" Americans.
     

    AFL_ITALIA

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    Jun 17, 2011
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    You can find many sources about it which will explain much better than reading my posts with broken english.



    They have wanted to be in that war, Pearl Harbor being attacked was the best option they had. Surely they did not regret.

    9/11 is an obvious Jewish - US co-operation to justify their modern age crusade. Again for the profit. Oil worth more than blood to them.
    Well what I mean is, what were we to do then, even if we did listen to it? Preemptively attack? We would be seen as the aggressors against a party that isn't at war with us.

    I'm not even going to touch that second paragraph for obvious reasons. However you're wrong about the oil, as the United States is the largest producer of it, overtaking both Saudi Arabia and Russia. So now why would a war need to be started for more?

    Also, your English is fine.
     

    Hust

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    May 29, 2005
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    - IS was established after nobody interfered in stopping the massacres of Assad and Malki regimes against civilians. If you want to stand against IS, why don't you stop the ones who killed much more than them?

    - After long preparations, Americans killed that child among many civilians in an area that is not controlled even by IS. There is no another justification that he was killed except that he was a source of danger on American forces.

    - You know American forces have always been killing thousands of civilians and do not ever care if the murdered people are civilians or not. Refer back to Hiroshima, my dear. Were Japanese forces hiding among civilians in the whole city? No. American forces are using their force to suppress people regardless how many innocents are losing their lives...

    - Could you please provide me with the pictures of children killed by IS? I tried and found none.
    -ISIS has just begun, give it time and I am sure they will kill much more people than those in your argument.

    -Your argument that the kid was killed because he was an "apparent threat" is probably the worst post & argument I've not just ever heard on this forum but in my entire life. Even worse than the Pearl Harbor conspiracy.

    -We do care about protecting innocent life and we plan as best as we can to minimize it but you know what, we have a mission to take out the bad guys and are more than aware of the collateral damage that can follow. In a perfect world, your boys ISIS would either have the balls to come out and fight like men rather than hide in the shadows amongst the innocent. The real criminals here are them because they know that by hiding in the innocent areas that innocent people will die. But you don't say shit about that do you. Either you or Turk cant fess up and say that his fools are pussies to hide amongst the innocent. I guarantee you that if ISIS told our Marines to meet us out in the desert away from innocent life they would be met but you know that would never happen. Again, Hiroshima ended the war and saved more American lives. We (yes the WEST) fought a battle of Genocide on one side and an empire that attacked us on another. :tup:

    -Doesn't have to be a child, an innocent life is an innocent life. But hey, if you look hard enough I'm sure you will find plenty of innocent kids killed as a result of ISIS hiding in the innocent towns, etc. It can't be that hard to find. I mean if you can come up with an argument that Pearl Harbor was a conspiracy Im sure you can find innocent people killed by ISIS.

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    This is exactly the mindset that we are talking about. You think of others in this planet as minor people that do not deserve to be treated like "holy" Americans.
    No because I don't try and pretend to know more about your history like you are apparently doing to mine. But frankly, your idea on Pearl Harbor more than warrants the criticism you are getting.

    That's like me tell you the Jews were in Palestine first and are rightfully allow to do everything they are doing and telling you that Palestine is just using that as a conspiracy to attack them. But I don't dare say that because I dont know the full history there so who am I try throw down odd arguments like that?

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    Well what I mean is, what were we to do then, even if we did listen to it? Preemptively attack? We would be seen as the aggressors against a party that isn't at war with us.

    I'm not even going to touch that second paragraph for obvious reasons. However you're wrong about the oil, as the United States is the largest producer of it, overtaking both Saudi Arabia and Russia. So now why would a war need to be started for more?

    Also, your English is fine.
    Exactly.

    Damned if we do, damned if we dont

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    Yes, I'm still waiting for these elusive questions to be answered.
     
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    ReBeL

    The Jackal
    Jan 14, 2005
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    -ISIS has just begun, give it time and I am sure they will kill much more people than those in your argument.
    So, USA is predicting the future. Good for them. Why didn't they stop 11-9 then? Aha, I forgot it was a good excuse for them to invade a far region full of oil.

    -Your argument that the kid was killed because he was an "apparent threat" is probably the worst post & argument I've not just ever heard on this forum but in my entire life. Even worse than the Pearl Harbor conspiracy.
    That is natural, because you failed to understand it.

    -We do care about protecting innocent life and we plan as best as we can to minimize it but you know what, we have a mission to take out the bad guys and are more than aware of the collateral damage that can follow. In a perfect world, your boys ISIS would either have the balls to come out and fight like men rather than hide in the shadows amongst the innocent. The real criminals here are them because they know that by hiding in the innocent areas that innocent people will die. But you don't say $#@! about that do you. Either you or Turk cant fess up and say that his fools are pussies to hide amongst the innocent. I guarantee you that if ISIS told our Marines to meet us out in the desert away from innocent life they would be met but you know that would never happen. Again, Hiroshima ended the war and saved more American lives. We (yes the WEST) fought a battle of Genocide on one side and an empire that attacked us on another. :tup:
    That is the typical response I expected from a victim of FOX News :)

    -Doesn't have to be a child, an innocent life is an innocent life. But hey, if you look hard enough I'm sure you will find plenty of innocent kids killed as a result of ISIS hiding in the innocent towns, etc. It can't be that hard to find. I mean if you can come up with an argument that Pearl Harbor was a conspiracy Im sure you can find innocent people killed by ISIS.
    So, you did not find any picture :lol2:

    No because I don't try and pretend to know more about your history like you are apparently doing to mine. But frankly, your idea on Pearl Harbor more than warrants the criticism you are getting.

    That's like me tell you the Jews were in Palestine first and are rightfully allow to do everything they are doing and telling you that Palestine is just using that as a conspiracy to attack them. But I don't dare say that because I dont know the full history there so who am I try throw down odd arguments like that?
    You know this is contradicting with your claim that IS WILL kill more people in the future. NO?
     

    Hust

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    Hustini
    May 29, 2005
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    So, USA is predicting the future. Good for them. Why didn't they stop 11-9 then? Aha, I forgot it was a good excuse for them to invade a far region full of oil.


    That is natural, because you failed to understand it.


    That is the typical response I expected from a victim of FOX News :)


    So, you did not find any picture :lol2:

    You know this is contradicting with your claim that IS WILL kill more people in the future. NO?
    Let's try this again. I'm still no closer to getting my questions answered by you, which is fine, I am starting to know that your failure to answer them only means how clueless the region actually is in solving their own problems. I'll keep playing your game though:

    -Yeah, when someone threatens to kill innocent life we step into action, which sadly I wouldn't expect you or Turk to actually go meet these guys face to face. We have our own oil, stop using that as your only excuse. Maybe you should start by admitting your region has its own serious issues to attend to rather than blame the West.

    -Its natural because you don't have a point. And if you did have a point, it's completely baseless and unfounded. The only way the US would have considered him as a terrorist was to actually plot the missile to kill him intentionally which isn't what happened. A group of military guys didn't just sit around the "red launch button" and say we have intel on this kid that can't walk yet that is plotting an attack on innocent life so lets take him out. Can't believe Im continuing this specific argument but you have my attention, do with that what you may.

    -I don't watch Fox. Try again. And even if I did, why the hell would they talk about Hiroshima? I've explained the reasons why we dropped the bomb. Need I elaborate? Because if I do, the Fox comment isn't going to get you very much of an answer.

    -I'm not looking for a picture. I don't need to. I could use the two American's beheaded as evidence but that would be beating a dead horse and close the argument you don't have down anyways. I don't need to find a picture I'm more or less curious to see if you or Turk have the balls to admit there are two sides to this coin but evidently that's asking too much. You can post all the pics you want of innocent life taken at the hands of US soldiers but that wouldn't take away from my argument. It still stands.

    -What? :lol: That was in reference to your Pearl Harbor conspiracy you and Turk share. What the hell does it have to do with ISIS and any contradiction?
     

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