Iraq. Is it better now?? (AKA ISIS/ISIL/IS/name-of-the-week-here) (13 Viewers)

[Eddy]

Sarcasm?

No, but there's a lot of behind-the-scenes answers to which we'll probably never find out. For example, there were some "mystery" airstrikes happening in Libya with reports saying that it was UAE some months back. Fuck knows what's truly going on.

"If you can kill a nonbelieving Emirati or Jordanian, especially the spiteful and filthy Saudis, or a Qatari, or a Bahraini ... then rely upon God," he said.

I bet he wasn't expecting dem airstrikes

 

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[Martin]

Why?

i'm not into animals

 

[Raz]

ًWhat locals?

Everyone is against everyone there. Unless you're a tribemate. But the again, that could get messy too.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Why would they just obey the orders of a government that is bombing them in order to get more countries to bomb them?

Some say that so called Caliph is a Mossad guy.

 

[Maddy]

That's not true and that's why the region won't be recovering in the foreseeable future.

Truth is this region was a mess. Backwards, divided, and rich in resources. You can't expect someone not to take advantage of it. After 100 years of humiliation and nothing has changed. But yeah, keep blaming the US and other foreign powers, that's working out great for you

A voice of reason

 

[Fred]

Wouldn't things be smoother if Sunnis and Shiites got along?

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I think the US involvement has its aftermath, but I don't think we are the reason why so much shit is going on there. That's just silly.

Don't forget that elements of Al Qaeda were trained by US intelligence, thats a well known and documented fact. Another thing is, you guys were/are supporting regimes in the Middle East that have contributed to the spread of radical ideology, albeit indirectly.

Aren't these all liberal countries with lax immigration laws that have taken millions of these people in and given them benefits?

ya, its what makes these people even more disgusting and hypocritical, most of them immigrate to Western countries, take advantage of the freedom they have there, some even take advantage of the welfare system. Then after leeching off those countries for a number of years, they brand them all infidels whose blood is halal.

Nothing is more disgusting than those radicals, unfortunately the region has a tough choice to make, you either fight the authoritarian regimes who probably contributed the most to spreading radicalism(albeit indirectly), that way a vacuum of power ensues that radical groups such as ISIS take advantage of, or you focus on fighting these radical groups, which benefits regimes such as Assad's. In the short term the obvious choice is fighting the radical groups, as they may seem like a lesser evil than the likes of Assad's regime, but what you are doing then is strengthening one of the main reasons that led to the existence of such groups.

Its all very complex, and not as simplistic as many would have you believe.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Rebel and Turk defending ISIS, stop the presses people.

 

[ReBeL]

How long before Assad "shoots down" one of our bombers?

His forces will not shoot down any US bomber, I can assure you. And his official TV is celebrating the attacks of last night as it was implemented by his forces

That's not true and that's why the region won't be recovering in the foreseeable future.

Truth is this region was a mess. Backwards, divided, and rich in resources. You can't expect someone not to take advantage of it. After 100 years of humiliation and nothing has changed. But yeah, keep blaming the US and other foreign powers, that's working out great for you

You can deny it as long as you want.

 

[Hust]

Yeah, lookout below. I don't know what these maniacs are doing. Not going to DC any time soon, that's for sure.

Or NYC for that matter. They have gotten the worst of it.

Aren't these all liberal countries with lax immigration laws that have taken millions of these people in and given them benefits?

What gets me is not only do they mooch off the system in these liberal countries but then go back as jihadists, kidnapp a citizen from these countries, saw their heads off with a dull blade then when we (yes, we) go to fight them they hide in the crowds like a bunch of pussies.

That's not true and that's why the region won't be recovering in the foreseeable future.

Truth is this region was a mess. Backwards, divided, and rich in resources. You can't expect someone not to take advantage of it. After 100 years of humiliation and nothing has changed. But yeah, keep blaming the US and other foreign powers, that's working out great for you

Don't forget that elements of Al Qaeda were trained by US intelligence, thats a well known and documented fact. Another thing is, you guys were/are supporting regimes in the Middle East that have contributed to the spread of radical ideology, albeit indirectly.



ya, its what makes these people even more disgusting and hypocritical, most of them immigrate to Western countries, take advantage of the freedom they have there, some even take advantage of the welfare system. Then after leeching off those countries for a number of years, they brand them all infidels whose blood is halal.

Nothing is more disgusting than those radicals, unfortunately the region has a tough choice to make, you either fight the authoritarian regimes who probably contributed the most to spreading radicalism(albeit indirectly), that way a vacuum of power ensues that radical groups such as ISIS take advantage of, or you focus on fighting these radical groups, which benefits regimes such as Assad's. In the short term the obvious choice is fighting the radical groups, as they may seem like a lesser evil than the likes of Assad's regime, but what you are doing then is strengthening one of the main reasons that led to the existence of such groups.

Its all very complex, and not as simplistic as many would have you believe.

I haven't forgotten US involvement but before the Oil boom I wouldn't think the region was doing very well either. Then again I've heard complaints it was Christians fault for the mess with the crusades almost a millennia ago. The US has recovered from British rule, a civil war, etc and we aren't making excuses. But as a US citizen and trying really hard to look at this from your folks POV at the angry backlash on the West I still see a lack of real leadership on your end coming from the region which leads to these lawless pussies like ISIS.

Rebel and Turk defending ISIS, stop the presses people.

Disgusting.

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Rebel and Turk defending ISIS, stop the presses people.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

These fucking assholes have directly threatened Australia now FFS. I don't get why our wankstain of a prime minister is getting our lads involved in this "war". Let them sort it out on their own.

 

[ReBeL]

Anyway, the Americans are using some dummy Arab governments to show that Arabs are hitting themselves, while everybody knows for sure the forces of these five countries can not kill a cockroach.

The fact that Americans not only targeted IS locations yesterday, but also Nusra Front locations too shows that this is really not a war on terror, but a war on anybody that is trying to get rid of Assad's regime. Syrian people can lick their wounds now after 250000 civilians were killed by the regime. Now, USA does not want them to get their freedom, and they should obey...

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

At least you're admitting it

 

[Hust]

Anyway, the Americans are using some dummy Arab governments to show that Arabs are hitting themselves, while everybody knows for sure the forces of these five countries can not kill a cockroach.

The fact that Americans not only targeted IS locations yesterday, but also Nusra Front locations too shows that this is really not a war on terror, but a war on anybody that is trying to get rid of Assad's regime. Syrian people can lick their wounds now after 250000 civilians were killed by the regime. Now, USA does not want them to get their freedom, and they should obey...

Thanks to our weapons, tactical training and intel they can kill more than a cockroach which makes your statement inaccurate.

 

[ReBeL]

These $#@!ing assholes have directly threatened Australia now FFS. I don't get why our wankstain of a prime minister is getting our lads involved in this "war". Let them sort it out on their own.

That is it, mate. Your prime minister volunteered to be a sheep of Americans, so he should have expected better that his country will be targeted because of interfering in something he has nothing to do with.

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Thanks to our weapons, tactical training and intel they can kill more than a $#@!roach which makes your statement inaccurate.

You just proved my point

 

[Hust]

These fucking assholes have directly threatened Australia now FFS. I don't get why our wankstain of a prime minister is getting our lads involved in this "war". Let them sort it out on their own.

There was something in the news here a couple days ago that your police (FBI equivalent) raided some homes and took some extremists into custody. Even found a giant machete like sword with Arabic on it. Can you confirm?

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

That is it, mate. Your prime minister volunteered to be a sheep of Americans, so he should have expected better that his country will be targeted because of interfering in something he has nothing to do with.

I don't disagree that we shouldn't be anywhere near Iraq or Syria, but now we have assholes who were born and grew up (fed and clothed) in our country who are threatening to commit attacks here.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

There was something in the news here a couple days ago that your police (FBI equivalent) raided some homes and took some extremists into custody. Even found a giant machete like sword with Arabic on it. Can you confirm?

Correct. There was a massive raid in Sydney (and Brisbane) last week. Quite a few people rounded up. One dude was plotting to kidnap someone and behead them in a public place. Another group apparently were plotting to blow up Parliament House, or other big targets like that.

 

[ReBeL]

I don't disagree that we shouldn't be anywhere near Iraq or Syria, but now we have assholes who were born and grew up (fed and clothed) in our country who are threatening to commit attacks here.

These are idiots, I fully agree with you.

 

[Hust]

You just proved my point

I just proved your inaccurate assumption that these so called "dummy govs" couldn't harm a fly. Well, they can.

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Correct. There was a massive raid in Sydney (and Brisbane) last week. Quite a few people rounded up. One dude was plotting to kidnap someone and behead them in a public place. Another group apparently were plotting to blow up Parliament House, or other big targets like that.

This is out of control. According to some, it's the US's fault, so sorry to fuck up your country.