Iraq. Is it better now?? (AKA ISIS/ISIL/IS/name-of-the-week-here) (20 Viewers)

Is Iraq better now?

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AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
19,124
Kind of makes you wonder why we invaded in the first place. A 9 year waste of time and money.
Like my above post we invaded because the powers that be all across the world want war and or control in one way or another. To them the end justifies the means always they reap the benefit while the average person suffers

On a side note the only a way America will change is if there is a new revolution starting with hearts and minds and maybe ending the way the first did , but the constitution of today's man is weak as they live I their excess and self imposed importance
 

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Raz

Senior Member
Nov 20, 2005
12,218
First off you have no idea about my view just because I put US occupation in quotes you assume I don't believe in an occupation. Our view is actually almost identical. The US is no longer a constitutional republic it is an oligarchy run by the symbiotic relationship of big business and government. The reason I put so called is because it wasn't just the US other oligarchy shad their hands in it as they are all symbiotically tied together, through the banks and money manipulation
Man, you're all over the place. What's your point?
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,524
Trust me, it's not. All that money is wasted on equipment and vehicles that rot in storage. All because of military contracts politicians give to their friends in order to get funding and favors.
 

AndreaCristiano

Nato, Vive, e muore Italiano
Jun 9, 2011
19,124
Trust me, it's not. All that money is wasted on equipment and vehicles that rot in storage. All because of military contracts politicians give to their friends in order to get funding and favors.
Reality as sad as it is until. The debates are televised for free or on public television and the advertising isn't so huge and costly with the media. Our political system will never change. The original scenario was so anyone could run and millions if not billions weren't needed to be a candidate. Until it's restructured to where anyone be it you or some other average American citizen can run the favors will never stop. The oligarchy was born because all this money is needed to run if not no one would be able to "buy" a candidate
 
Jul 2, 2006
19,431
Turk must be so excited seeing "Muslims" taking over Iraq.
They fought against the opposition rather than Assad forces in Syria. And in Iraq, they just open a new front with kidnapping nearly 100 Turkish citizens as if they ran out of enemies.

Though there is strong suspicion about their leaders as being tools of someone else, none can deny the discrimination against Sunni Muslims in Iraq.

I always thought Syria and Iraq proved that they can't govern themselves numerous times. This is what happens when you give so-called sovereignty to provinces without any government skill, tradition and history. Isn't it the reason why there are so many puppet countries, though their populace share the same ethnicity and religion. There is one French and one German nation but there are dozens of Arab countries. It's lack of legitimate leadership and unity which kills millions in this region.
 

Zacheryah

Senior Member
Aug 29, 2010
42,251
I'd like to know what people from the middle east, or muslims think about whats happening now in iraq.

Isis, the islamic state in iraq and syria is making quick progress, but are strickly conservative and want to implement the sharia where they conquer.
Truth be told, its going so quick because they are sunnites, the majority are sunnites, whilst the goverment in bagdad are shiites, wich they dont like.

I dont like this personally. It gives the bad image that islam is out there to go and conquer the world and impose their fundamentalism upon the world. Whilst the gigantic majority are just muslims, who practive their believes, and can perfectly co-exist with other religions or atheists without wanting to impose their own state.

I'd like to know muslim opinions on this, widen my views, see if i'm missing something
 
Jul 1, 2010
26,352
Thats odd. Because in their video's, they sing about how they want to eradicate israel.

Israel beeing america's ally
They captured all those weapon caches and vehicles left behind by the Iraqi army, which were supplied by America.

They also captured Iraqi aircrafts and helicopters, but I don't know if they were supplied by the USA as well. Probably.
 

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