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ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
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If I were you, I'd move. There's gotta be a reason the people you know never went back. Even though life in the US can be incredibly monotone, it's probably better than most places, especially if you're not rich. My parents always complain they feel like robots in here but whenever we go back on vacation, they say it feels messy over there, and like there's no order.

I don't know if somewhere in Europe would be better, but US and Canada are still the prime locations in my mind. Unless you're a free soul like Kate :D
 

Zé Tahir

JhoolayLaaaal!
Moderator
Dec 10, 2004
29,281
Hoori, you're better off leaving and improving your situation. Once you've gotten an education, worked for a while and once you can stand on your own two feet then you'll be in a better position to help. Staying there to 'fight' the system will eventually land you in trouble. Also, the people there would benefit more from you once your more qualified and once you've built a network.

I raise the same questions when it comes to Pakistan even though I've barely ever lived there. It hurts me to see its current stae. There's a huge 'brain-drain' there, as they say, and I think it's sad. Who's going to help the situation if everyone leaves? Reality is that staying limits your chances of being of any use. Best thing to do is to go abroad and then find ways to improve things in the motherland. If the situation improves you can always go back. Skilled IT professionals from India for example, who left to study/work in the States ( Silicon Valley to be specific) have started a reverse trend and are now going back opening up their own businesses because opportunities have opened and the situation has improved.

It's greatness.



If Tahir can learn Swedish in a year, then anyone can.
:wth:

I moved there when I was 6. You can learn Chinese in a month at that age :p

Swedish is a pretty easy language to learn though. None of that male/female shit, that's half the battle learning any romance language and with Urdu.
 

Kate

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Feb 7, 2011
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If I were you, I'd move. There's gotta be a reason the people you know never went back. Even though life in the US can be incredibly monotone, it's probably better than most places, especially if you're not rich. My parents always complain they feel like robots in here but whenever we go back on vacation, they say it feels messy over there, and like there's no order.

I don't know if somewhere in Europe would be better, but US and Canada are still the prime locations in my mind. Unless you're a free soul like Kate :D
:p
 
Jul 1, 2010
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Canada is receiving a lot of love in this thread :)

Seriously, it's a great place to live in. Racism is at a minimum, job opportunities are fairly good for immigrants and we offer pretty good opportunities and welfare.

Quebec, Ontario or British Colombia are the three best provinces to live in imo. The prairies provinces (Albert, SK, Manitoba) are to be avoided imo, there is nothing to do over there.

If you do consider immigrating, I recommend Canada as it is a great place :tup:

When my family immigrated here in the 1950s, they suffered from racism(Italians were quite targeted in Montreal) but it has changed a lot. It is a very tolerant society now.
 

Bianconero_Aus

Beppe Marotta Is My God
May 26, 2009
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Move to Australia. We could do with more hot, exotic Iranian girls ;)

But in all honesty, it's a great place to live. Great weather, friendly people (for the most part), plenty of different nationalities and cultures living here peacefully, economy in great shape, low unemployment, plenty of work and a great place to bring up a family if that's what your intentions are later in life.

Sydney or Melbourne would be the main places to be. But Perth and Adelaide are not to be underrated as well. Great country, can be a bit of a boring place once you drive an hour or two out of the main metropolitan regions, but still a fantastic place to live. Forza Australia.
 

ALC

Ohaulick
Oct 28, 2010
46,526
Move to Australia. We could do with more hot, exotic Iranian girls ;)

But in all honesty, it's a great place to live. Great weather, friendly people (for the most part), plenty of different nationalities and cultures living here peacefully, economy in great shape, low unemployment, plenty of work and a great place to bring up a family if that's what your intentions are later in life.

Sydney or Melbourne would be the main places to be. But Perth and Adelaide are not to be underrated as well. Great country, can be a bit of a boring place once you drive an hour or two out of the main metropolitan regions, but still a fantastic place to live. Forza Australia.
You forgot about the 'roos, gators, iguanas, snakes, scorpions, and basically things that creep you the fuck out if they somehow don't manage to kill you :D

J/k, I'd love to visit Australia one day.
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
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Despite the advice I'm getting from people here, my main concern is not where to immigrate but rather if I should immigrate at all.
I don't know what the right thing is for you. What I can tell you is that I wanted to emigrate for years. From the age of high school I already knew that I wanted to at least go abroad to go to college, that was kinda my dream. Now, it wasn't until a good 5-6 years later that I actually did come to Holland, but through all this time my desire never waned and I'm quite sure that if I hadn't done it (Holland or elsewhere) I would always be thinking what could have been. So if you recognize yourself in that story, it would be a shame for you to always be thinking "I had the chance and I didn't take it".

Leaving family ties behind (my parents will never move), starting a new adventure without having absolutely no idea of what I'm gonna face as an Iranian girl are certainly issues but from a more comprehensive point of view, shouldn't we all feel responsible for what's going on in our homelands? If we consider ourselves those who can change things for better, should not we stay and try for it? Or it's just too sentimental thinking?
I don't really know how to respond to that. I guess it depends on how much of a change you think you can actually bring. If what you said before is true, that you want to be a teacher, then that is a very influential role and you can no doubt do a lot of good to your students. It's also a career that could give you a lot of satisfaction that way.

What you call sentimental is your social conscience, so let's not brush that under the carpet too hastily. :)

If I ever decide to leave, US and Canada are the places I will consider but I first need to know if it's the right thing to do.

What that consoles me a bit [:D] is that I can always move "temporarily" in order to have a broader knowledge of immigration and its pros and cons and that I can always come back but then again I don't know anyone (Iranians) who came back after immigrating to other places.
A lot of people make deals with themselves. "Okay I'll go, I'll stay for 5 years and come back." And then they end up staying permanently. Basically if the new country was really hurting them they would be back within 6 months.

I think there is something really empowering and beautiful about the fact that a lot of people can move to a country that is more appropriate for them. Just because we're born in a place, so what?
 

Martin

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2000
56,913
If I were you, I'd move. There's gotta be a reason the people you know never went back. Even though life in the US can be incredibly monotone, it's probably better than most places, especially if you're not rich. My parents always complain they feel like robots in here but whenever we go back on vacation, they say it feels messy over there, and like there's no order.

I don't know if somewhere in Europe would be better, but US and Canada are still the prime locations in my mind. Unless you're a free soul like Kate :D
"go back"? So you're one of us? :cool:
 

icemaη

Rab's Husband - The Regista
Moderator
Aug 27, 2008
36,323
Despite the advice I'm getting from people here, my main concern is not where to immigrate but rather if I should immigrate at all.

Leaving family ties behind (my parents will never move), starting a new adventure without having absolutely no idea of what I'm gonna face as an Iranian girl are certainly issues but from a more comprehensive point of view, shouldn't we all feel responsible for what's going on in our homelands? If we consider ourselves those who can change things for better, should not we stay and try for it? Or it's just too sentimental thinking?

If I ever decide to leave, US and Canada are the places I will consider but I first need to know if it's the right thing to do.

What that consoles me a bit [:D] is that I can always move "temporarily" in order to have a broader knowledge of immigration and its pros and cons and that I can always come back but then again I don't know anyone (Iranians) who came back after immigrating to other places.
I can certainly relate to that. One of the main reasons I'm still living in India, when I could, with a little effort, be somewhere in the West. No matter how shitty the system is, I believe that we owe a lot to our homeland for providing what it has to us and our parents. I know that I will move elsewhere for a few years because no matter the where I work or the number of hours I work I will not save enough to provide what I wish to provide my family. The money here sucks and I will have to earn elsewhere. But I don't ever want to be one of those people complaining about the homeland sitting thousands of miles away in there posh homes drinking beer with white folks :)D) I do what I can to this country, even if it means it's as meagre as paying my taxes.
 

Zé Tahir

JhoolayLaaaal!
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Dec 10, 2004
29,281
I can certainly relate to that. One of the main reasons I'm still living in India, when I could, with a little effort, be somewhere in the West. No matter how shitty the system is, I believe that we owe a lot to our homeland for providing what it has to us and our parents. I know that I will move elsewhere for a few years because no matter the where I work or the number of hours I work I will not save enough to provide what I wish to provide my family. The money here sucks and I will have to earn elsewhere. But I don't ever want to be one of those people complaining about the homeland sitting thousands of miles away in there posh homes drinking beer with white folks :)D) I do what I can to this country, even if it means it's as meagre as paying my taxes.
:tup:
 

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